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So, I just noticed this chart on Twitter, showing the differences between how much people SAY they want in a partner, and what they ACTUALLY want:
View: https://x.com/Noahpinion/status/1814349987276538030#m
Obviously, this intrigued me, since I'm always looking for more stuff that confirms the bullshit about "confidence", "personality", "good sense of humor" being what women want, instead of looks like us male pigs do, and that's why we inkwell, cause we are just bad people and bad people don't get laid.
So, I went to the Twitter account that apparently first posted it and found the original study:
A Worldwide Test of the Predictive Validity of Ideal Partner Preference-Matching
Well, let's just say that I liked what I saw.
"B-b-b-b-b-b-but inkwell, those studies you show don't mean anything, they are just about Americans or Westerners and they have tiny samples!"
We often hear copes like that, so I hope that our detractors will like this study then:
The study's even as recent as can be, from July 2024. So, let's stop yapping and wasting our time and go straight to the important parts, shall we?
Then:
"B-b-b-b-but, that's what men want, women are different, they aren't so visual."
That is what some of our friends might tell us, so let's look further:
View: https://x.com/Noahpinion/status/1814349987276538030#m
Obviously, this intrigued me, since I'm always looking for more stuff that confirms the bullshit about "confidence", "personality", "good sense of humor" being what women want, instead of looks like us male pigs do, and that's why we inkwell, cause we are just bad people and bad people don't get laid.
So, I went to the Twitter account that apparently first posted it and found the original study:
A Worldwide Test of the Predictive Validity of Ideal Partner Preference-Matching
Well, let's just say that I liked what I saw.
"B-b-b-b-b-b-but inkwell, those studies you show don't mean anything, they are just about Americans or Westerners and they have tiny samples!"
We often hear copes like that, so I hope that our detractors will like this study then:
This registered report—partnered with the Psychological Science Accelerator—uses a highly powered design (N=10,358) across 43 countries and 22 languages to estimate preference-matching effect sizes. The most rigorous tests revealed significant preference-matching effects in the whole sample and for partnered and single participants separately. The “corrected pattern metric” that collapses across 35 traits revealed a zero-order effect of β=.19and an effect of β=.11 when included alongside a normative preference-matching metric.
The study's even as recent as can be, from July 2024. So, let's stop yapping and wasting our time and go straight to the important parts, shall we?
So those traits, headlined by our beloved "confidence", are what people say they want, but not what they actually want. Also, jfl at "emotionally stable" also being there.On the whole, stated and revealed preferences aligned in terms of ranking, although some intriguing differences did emerge. For example, the attributes “confident,” “a good listener,” “patient,” and “calm, emotionally stable” ranked considerably more highly as stated preferences than as revealed preferences.
Then:
THOSE are the things people actually want in a partner, and as is pointed out, both single and already partnered people have those same preferences.In contrast, the attributes “attractive,” “a good lover,” “nice body,” “sexy,” and “smells good” ranked considerably more highly as revealed preferences than as stated preferences. In fact, “a good lover” was the #1 largest revealed preference but actually ranked 12th in terms of stated preferences. (We also conducted separate analyses on the partnered and single subsamples, revealing identical conclusions; see Tables S10 and S11 in the Supplemental Materials.)
"B-b-b-b-but, that's what men want, women are different, they aren't so visual."
That is what some of our friends might tell us, so let's look further:
Once again, this is only about people saying they want something other than they actually wanted. When asked what they wanted, men and women chose different traits. When actually choosing a partner however, there were no differences and both men and women went straight for looks and so on.Table 5 also calculates gender differences in the preference for attractiveness (i.e., the average of the items “attractive,” “nice body,” and “sexy”) and earning potential (i.e., the average of the items “ambitious,” “financially secure,” and “good job”). Some theoretical perspectives anticipate that men will place greater weight on attractiveness, and women will place greater weight on earning potential (Buss, 1989). These gender differences indeed emerged when participants reported their stated preferences. Nevertheless, consistent with past meta-analytic work (Eastwick et al., 2014) and the very small level metric analyses documented in Table 3, these gender differences did not emerge in participants’ revealed preferences.
Men’s stated preferences tended to underestimate the value they actually placed on “attractive,” “nice body,” and “sexy” by about 6 ranks (out of 35; 1 = highest ranked, 35 = lowest ranked) on average. That is, their stated preferences for these three traits ranked 9, 18, and 17 (respectively) but their revealed preferences for these three traits ranked 7, 13, and 6. However, women underestimated the value they placed on these three traits by a full 13 ranks (out of 35): Their stated preferences for these three traits ranked 18, 28, and 23 (respectively) but their revealed preferences for these three traits ranked 8, 17, and 5 (i.e., about the same as men).
Men care about money more than they admit, while women care about money less than they claim, and ultimately, neither gender cares about money anywhere near as much as they care about looks.As for “ambitious,” “financially secure,” and “good job,” men’s stated preferences underestimated their value by about 4 ranks: Their stated preferences for these three traits ranked 25, 25 (tied), and 27 (respectively) but their revealed preferences for these three traits ranked 22, 24, and 20. In contrast, women’s stated preferences overestimated their value by about 4 ranks: Their stated preferences for these three traits ranked 22, 17, and 18 (respectively) but their revealed preferences for these three traits ranked 24, 25, and 21 (i.e., again, about the same as men).
Now, I literally just discovered this, I guess there's a lot more to say about this and more blackpills to find there, but I think those two pages, if even that, nicely encapsulate everything we need to take away from this.In summary, both men’s and women’s stated preferences appeared to underestimate the weight they place on attractiveness, but this underestimation effect was more pronounced for women than for men. In contrast, men’s stated preferences slightly underestimated the weight they placed on earning potential, and women’s stated preferences slightly overestimated the weight they placed on earning potential.
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