Serious A question for lurking bluepillers: "How are we supposed to talk to women?"

[Lebensmüder]

You always say to us "Get out, meet people, get involved in platonic relationships with girls at first and then a romantic relationship will come along!", but at the same time you shame men who complain about the friendzone because they didn't make their intentions clear - so you clearly give us contradictory advice.

On the one hand we should try it with platonic relationships (friendships/etc.) first and then we should hope for an escalation into the romantic/sexual territory, but on the other hand you shame people for doing exactly the thing that you always recommend.

Give me an honest response to that: "How are you supposed to talk to women when you want romantic/sexual relationships ultimately?" If we make our intentions clear (e.g. we want a relationship and sex) it's creepy/pushy/cringeworthy/etc., if we hope for a platonic relationship that escalates into a romantic/sexual one we are le cringy nice guys. So what do you want us to do then? You always say the exact opposite.

 

[A_Deo]

"Just be yourself bro"

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

with a new haircut

 

[Deleted member 33735]

Its only cringe/creepy when the guy making the move is a ugly asshole, if the guy is good looking then its all OK.

Also trying a "friendship" relation only works for guys who end in the friendzone at the end of the day, the girl will never consider the guy a "friend" if she likes him to start with.

 

[Deleted member 34301]

Flirting I guess. It shows that you possibly have other interests than friendship

Or go the PUA way and start negging

 

[TINMAN]

The answer you are looking for is that you aren't. They want you to never talk to or interact with women ever, outside of providing her with your servitude. All of the gaslighting is just a means to disguise this, the real goal they have is to make things so hard for you that you just give up on your own.

What women really want you to do is to never approach them and just slave away working so that you can generate money to fund the raising of Chad's abandoned children, either directly by giving your money to whores or indirectly by your tax money being siphoned off to support single mothers.

 

[Gundamcel69]

Women hate subhumans like us. They should just admit it already.

 

[Deleted member 34242]

"Just be yourself bro"

they either say that or tell you to change your lifestyle, diet, hobbies, friends, learn x, stop doing y, until you're a completely different person and at that point you would be living a lie

 

[Lebensmüder]

The answer you are looking for is that you aren't. They want you to never talk to or interact with women ever, outside of providing her with your servitude. All of the gaslighting is just a means to disguise this, the real goal they have is to make things so hard for you that you just give up on your own.

What women really want you to do is to never approach them and just slave away working so that you can generate money to fund the raising of Chad's abandoned children, either directly by giving your money to whores or indirectly by your tax money being siphoned off to support single mothers.

100% spot on.

 

[Deleted member 6329]

Good question. They'll probably just shift the goal post.