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Discussion A Psycho-Analysis on Incel Fetishes

MENSA_IQcel

MENSA_IQcel

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I've been doing some readings lately on psychiatrists and psychological thinkers ((PSYCHOLOGISTS I KNOW JFL)) and I've compared that to many of the fetish's I've heard on this forum and from real life involuntary celibates. One thinker who's caught my attention in particular is Nathaniel Brandon, husband of Ayn Rand and writer of "the Psychology of Self-Esteem - Harvard Edition". The book is primary about the causes, benefits, and origins of man's self-esteem and if I could summarize the message into a concise statement it would be "the root of all psychological problems stem from subliminal repression and denial of reality". Brandon argues that the human mind is built for logic, emotional denying of reality is a trait only beneficial for the suitability of certain animals; and therefore if humans engage in repression it only causes us psychological harm.

I've had complaints about my long posts before so I will condense this a little bit and jump through a few logical hopes for simplicity. The true state of our existence is so unbearable for us that we have chosen to repress its truth (bluepill is a perfect example but not the only example of this phenomena). We delude ourselves with copes and faulty ideas to make our lives barable. This may actually be preferable to our state of survival, as many more people would rope if didn't have the ability to copemax with delusions. Fetishes are one of the ultimate forms of cope. Fetishes turn sexual fears and failures into positives by giving us pleasure for what we should be repulsed by. Homosexuality and transsexualism is a perfect example. The hot homosexual is largely a myth, most homosexuals (and transgenders) come from broken environments and suffer poor genetics and turn to men as a cope since they would rope if they had to come to accept they would never get women. Cuck and humiliation fetishes are another example. When you are humiliated in the sexual market-place for so long, watching your crushes all throughout middle, highschool, and college make out with your bullies in front of you at parties; especially if you're mocked for it, it takes a toll. People begin to develop a fetish for being cucked and humiliated since the bare truth of being too ugly and inferior to rise in the dominance hierarchy is too hard to handle. Another way the cuck fetish develops is when you become so destitute that even the idea of having sex with a women becomes so unrealistic it's impossible even to fantasies about it, although this fetish develops in a later stage of blackpill acceptance.

This explains why inceltears are such cucks, homosexuals, and transsexuals. It also explains a lot of the twisted rape and women-beater fetishes seen on this forum. These are not your natural sexual states, these are ways your brain protects you. The same can be said about individuals on this forum who say they don't want a girlfriend, love, or affection, all they want is raw sex. Your lizard-mind knows that a women who isn't genuinely attracted to you is not an ideal partner, she will probably not care for your offspring. A women who shows genuine care for you and desires long-term commitment will put much more work into raising your off-spring as best she can and thus give them a better chance of survival. It's natural and normal to desire sex, love, and validation; dehumanizing women and desiring them as "fuckholes" is not healthy. It is a COPING mechanism to protect you from the fact that no women will ever desire you. This post is not to demean anyone or legitimize any incel critics but to spark serious self-reflection in the pursuit of truth. Never be afraid to investigate your mind, whatever you find is already a part of you.
 
shut the fuck up im not reading ur doo doo spread of a post because I know its some more basic incel stuff you made into like 5 paragraphs when in reality it's not only been written 100's of times but also condensed 100's of times as well.
 
You're starting to sound like @Fontaine fyi OP.
 
You're starting to sound like @Fontaine fyi OP.

Thank you, that's a compliment. I have always been an admirer of Fontaine. I still don't know why he was banned.
 
I can agree that some fetishes are acoping mechanism, but only the fetishes that are self-deprecating which socialize humiliation to protect us from pain as you say. I don't see that to be the case I sincerely for the domineering ones. It seems like more of a fantasy and wish fulfillment.

Also the mating strategy for men and women in the wild are pretty different. men produce millions of sperm day because the optimal strategy is to impregnate as many women as possible, so mate choice in terms of responsibilities as secondary. Men tend to select based on fertility.

The hormone oxytocinensures that women will have a strong bond of attachment to their children so even if you impregnate that the most irresponsible whores, they will still try to take care of the kids (especially from Chad's seed)

Again, I don't to think you're as smart as you think you are.
 
I can agree that some fetishes are acoping mechanism, but only the fetishes that are self-deprecating which socialize humiliation to protect us from pain as you say. I don't see that to be the case I sincerely for the domineering ones. It seems like more of a fantasy and wish fulfillment.

Also the mating strategy for men and women in the wild are pretty different. men produce millions of sperm day because the optimal strategy is to impregnate as many women as possible, so mate choice in terms of responsibilities as secondary. Men tend to select based on fertility.

The hormone oxytocinensures that women will have a strong bond of attachment to their children so even if you impregnate that the most irresponsible whores, they will still try to take care of the kids (especially from Chad's seed)

Again, I don't to think you're as smart as you think you are.


There was no reason to throw in that last comment. Again, I am getting a PHD in a mass intensive field at a top University. I am a MENSA member. I am one of the intellectual elite, there is no denying this.
 
There was no reason to throw in that last comment. Again, I am getting a PHD in a mass intensive field at a top University. I am a MENSA member. I am one of the intellectual elite, there is no denying this.

What field? Keep in mind, education and intelligence are not the same thing.
 
Lmfao this nigga really spent probably an hour writing all that shit just for me to scroll down and type this and it only took me a minute
 
Mathematically economic theory, specifically on potential LIBOR and ECB strategies.
Interesting ngl, but I think it is a bit futile. The real world is too stochastic to make solid predictions, although it is the holy grail in finance/economics, so best of luck

but remember, if your ideas are solid, you don't have to brag about your IQ, education etc. Also, phd's are 90% perseverance anyway. You don't have to be Einstein level intelligent, so when I hear people your that as proof of intelligence, I lol.

Lmfao this nigga really spent probably an hour writing all that shit just for me to scroll down and type this and it only took me a minute
Lol
 
Interesting ngl, but I think it is a bit futile. The real world is too stochastic to make solid predictions, although it is the holy grail in finance/economics, so best of luck

but remember, if your ideas are solid, you don't have to brag about your IQ, education etc. Also, phd's are 90% perseverance anyway. You don't have to be Einstein level intelligent, so when I hear people your that as proof of intelligence, I lol.


Lol

My username is kind of bait in a way. When people read "High_IQ" they immediately want to challenge me and try to prove I'm not high-IQ, that drives them to debate me. I know it sounds super pretentious.
 
My username is kind of bait in a way. When people read "High_IQ" they immediately want to challenge me and try to prove I'm not high-IQ, that drives them to debate me. I know it sounds super pretentious.
Well it sure baited me. Good luck with your PhD, and if you become super successful don't trample all the gentiles. Help a goy out from time to time.
 
cope love doesn't exist plus you're GrAYcel
 
cope love doesn't exist plus you're GrAYcel

Saying love doesn't exist is cope. Your brain can't handle the thought that love exists and you will never receive it.
 

What was your point of quoting me?
 
This explains why inceltears are such cucks, homosexuals, and transsexuals. It also explains a lot of the twisted rape and women-beater fetishes seen on this forum. These are not your natural sexual states, these are ways your brain protects you.

You mean kind of like how your brain protects you from the truth that you're actually narcissistic and obsessed with intelligence as a measure of human value, but you just tell other people it's a "way to get them to debate you" when people point out that you're pretentious?

In reality, I don't think that way about you, but I think it shows how your argument overreaches with respect to something as unreliable as psychological analysis.
 
You mean kind of like how your brain protects you from the truth that you're actually narcissistic and obsessed with intelligence as a measure of human value, but you just tell other people it's a "way to get them to debate you" when people point out that you're pretentious?

In reality, I don't think that way about you, but I think it shows how your argument overreaches with respect to something as unreliable as psychology.

That would be a good analogy if it were true. My post was an explanation for fetishes, not proof. Just because in the case of fetishes the cause is subliminal repressions does not mean that all of my personal quirks are caused by subliminal repressed memories. It's a false equivalence.

Epistemological repression is not a rule of logic, it's a specific phenomenon. Analogies don't really apply here.
 
Dontcaregreycel

fuck u greycel
 
That would be a good analogy if it were true. My post was an explanation for fetishes, not proof. Just because in the case of fetishes the cause is subliminal repressions does not mean that all of my personal quirks are caused by subliminal repressed memories. It's a false equivalence.

Alright, I guess I can agree that some (not all) of your personal quirks are caused by subliminal repressed memories.
My overall attitude towards psychologists and their theories, and I think your attitude as well towards them, is amused skepticism.
It is precisely for the reason you mention: everything that they say is just an explanation, and not a proof.
 
Alright, I guess I can agree that some (not all) of your personal quirks are caused by subliminal repressed memories.
My overall attitude towards psychologists and their theories, and I think your attitude as well towards them, is amused skepticism.
It is precisely for the reason you mention: everything that they say is just an explanation, and not a proof.

I agree psychology isn't a hard science, but does that mean we shouldn't peruse or discuss at all? Should we just completely ignore it as a field because we can't calculate the exact truth?
 
I agree psychology isn't a hard science, but does that mean we shouldn't peruse or discuss at all? Should we just completely ignore it as a field because we can't calculate the exact truth?
No, it is interesting to discuss, just not appropriate as a basis to make certain assertions in my opinion. "Love exists and you deny that it exists because your brain is protecting you from the fact that you will never be loved!" The language you use suggests you maybe have more confidence in the theories than you should.
 
No, it is interesting to discuss, just not appropriate as a basis to make certain assertions in my opinion. "Love exists and you deny that it exists because your brain is protecting you from the fact that you will never be loved!" The language you use suggests you maybe have more confidence in the theories than you should.

I think it's a reasonable and highly plausible that my theories are correct, there will always be a shadow of doubt. This is where occams razor becomes useful.
 
Yes it might be a coping mechanism, But we are not to be blamed for this, we didnt ask the foids to be thots..
 
@MENSA_IQcel did you post on another forum or r/braincels?
 
Interesting premise and I partially agree.

Although women look after their children no matter who you are, because it's the fruit of their own loins, the child is part of them.

So it's selfish that they care for their own children, the same way that women care for themselves.
 
the idea of having sex with a women becomes so unrealistic it's impossible even to fantasies about it, although this fetish develops in a later stage of blackpill acceptance.

Good post. I'm not a cuck but what you said about not desiring women because sex is always out of my reach resonated wtih me.

I'm at the point where I no longer think about women at all. It's been that way since I've been age 24-25. I'm 28 now and I don't really think about women or relationships at all..

However the status of being an incel still affects me.
 
Read every word
 
Mathematically economic theory, specifically on potential LIBOR and ECB strategies.
Is your research based on analyzing models, or something else?
 
Nice high IQ post. I have a weird cuck fetish but no one knows about it.
 
Thank you, that's a compliment. I have always been an admirer of Fontaine. I still don't know why he was banned.

Your account is less than a week old and yet you admire a user who was banned all the way back in October 2018? You admire a LARPing fakecel?

@LittleBoy this guy is susp as fuck
 
Hmm rather interesting post. Makes sense.
Your account is less than a week old and yet you admire a user who was banned all the way back in October 2018? You admire a LARPing fakecel?

@LittleBoy this guy is susp as fuck
I think lots of people lurk here because they are afraid of FBI/stigma of posting here. For what its worth the post is of decent quality. Imo we should always give people the benefit of the doubt, unlike normalfags and women.
 
Mathematically economic theory, specifically on potential LIBOR and ECB strategies.

You know that the FCA will phase out LIBOR next year, right? Why are you studying it? That has to be the least informative and most vague sentence I've ever heard from a PhD student.

You sound like a 16-year-old who thinks that he can fool everyone else by throwing together a couple of finance-related acronyms in a nonsensical word salad.
I think lots of people lurk here because they are afraid of FBI/stigma of posting here. For what its worth the post is of decent quality. Imo we should always give people the benefit of the doubt, unlike normalfags and women.

I do try to give new users the benefit of the doubt, but OP's losing his credibility with his incessant IQ boasting and his hostility towards more seasoned forum members.
 
There was no reason to throw in that last comment. Again, I am getting a PHD in a mass intensive field at a top University. I am a MENSA member. I am one of the intellectual elite, there is no denying this.

In what field? You've ignored this question before.
 
I call women toilets only to Call attention to the fact that they would rather serve as a temporary cum receptacle in a harem for (hot) guys who don’t care about them than be an ugly guy’s gf.

I only want a gf to love and to be loved by. But what I want is not female nature, atleast not in regards to guys like us.

I have a theory to explain the prevalence of violent/extreme porn.. ill make a thread one of these days.

@MENSA_IQcel what renders you incel?
 
Your account is less than a week old and yet you admire a user who was banned all the way back in October 2018? You admire a LARPing fakecel?

@LittleBoy this guy is susp as fuck

Ban evasion alt I'm going with...

@mental_out @SergeantIncel @knajjd @Ryo_Hazuki @Master
@WithoutMe @cocksucker @i_a_m_i
 
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You know that the FCA will phase out LIBOR next year, right? Why are you studying it? That has to be the least informative and most vague sentence I've ever heard from a PhD student.

You sound like a 16-year-old who thinks that he can fool everyone else by throwing together a couple of finance-related acronyms in a nonsensical word salad.


I do try to give new users the benefit of the doubt, but OP's losing his credibility with his incessant IQ boasting and his hostility towards more seasoned forum members.
There is always some new poster talking about how hes a genius and has a 200 IQ and then writes an unnecessarily verbose 10 paragraph post without citing any sources or anything legitimate. His name is even MENSA_IQcel jfl

Sounds exactly like you said, someone who is trying to sound far smarter than they really are
 
In what field? You've ignored this question before.

Mathematical economic theory and occasional some statistics. My papers are about LIBOR and policy recommendations for the ECB, specifically about negative interest rates.
Ban evasion alt I'm going with...

@mental_out @SergeantIncel @knajjd @Ryo_Hazuki @Master
@WithoutMe @cocksucker @i_a_m_i

I have lurked here occasionally since r/braincels was active. I used to post there before that was banned and that was banned in late 2018 or 2019.
Is your research based on analyzing models, or something else?

I analyze existing models and modify them for my own purposes, as no model really is accurate of and by itself.
You know that the FCA will phase out LIBOR next year, right? Why are you studying it? That has to be the least informative and most vague sentence I've ever heard from a PhD student.

You sound like a 16-year-old who thinks that he can fool everyone else by throwing together a couple of finance-related acronyms in a nonsensical word salad.


I do try to give new users the benefit of the doubt, but OP's losing his credibility with his incessant IQ boasting and his hostility towards more seasoned forum members.

That's exactly why I'm studying it moron. We're studying the total effect it's had on the economy and the euro-market in general so we can better understand the appropriate monetary policy for the ECB.
 
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His name is even MENSA_IQcel jfl
Well put. I seriously have a hard time believing anyone who is close to obtaining a PhD would name themselves "mensa_iqcel". Maybe on an incel forum it's not that surprising, but come on...
 
I call women toilets only to Call attention to the fact that they would rather serve as a temporary cum receptacle in a harem for (hot) guys who don’t care about them than be an ugly guy’s gf.

I only want a gf to love and to be loved by. But what I want is not female nature, atleast not in regards to guys like us.

I have a theory to explain the prevalence of violent/extreme porn.. ill make a thread one of these days.

@MENSA_IQcel what renders you incel?

I'd love to here your theory, I'm always interested in high-IQ posts.

I have a facial deformity, making me a 1/10 automatically.
 
yeah ive come to the same conclusion as well. i never understood why i had a fetish for mind control or hypnosis hentai. ive been doing a shit ton of self reflection and ive come to the conclusion that every since i started watch that specific type of hentai, i knew deep down that i just couldnt trust females. thats where my fetish probably first took root tbh
 
This explains why inceltears are such cucks, homosexuals, and transsexuals. It also explains a lot of the twisted rape and women-beater fetishes seen on this forum. These are not your natural sexual states, these are ways your brain protects you. The same can be said about individuals on this forum who say they don't want a girlfriend, love, or affection, all they want is raw sex. Your lizard-mind knows that a women who isn't genuinely attracted to you is not an ideal partner, she will probably not care for your offspring. A women who shows genuine care for you and desires long-term commitment will put much more work into raising your off-spring as best she can and thus give them a better chance of survival. It's natural and normal to desire sex, love, and validation; dehumanizing women and desiring them as "fuckholes" is not healthy. It is a COPING mechanism to protect you from the fact that no women will ever desire you. This post is not to demean anyone or legitimize any incel critics but to spark serious self-reflection in the pursuit of truth. Never be afraid to investigate your mind, whatever you find is already a part of you.

I agreed with much of your post until the last paragraph.

1. Not everyone wants offspring. It is not unhealthy to not want crotch goblins.

2. Who are you to say that "coping mechanisms" are unhealthy? Do you believe that psychological repression of painful and embarrassing memories are inherently unhealthy?

If you did read into much of Brandon and Rand's philosophy you would understand that rational egoism is a cornerstone of Objectivism -- i.e. the principle that acting in one's self-interest is strictly moral and rational. If "coping mechanisms" are integral to one's self-interest, you would logically conclude that "coping" is moral and rational. By extension, this would constitute a moral justification for being a cuck, a faggot, or a tranny, and would be the antithesis of our community's values.
 
I'd love to here your theory, I'm always interested in high-IQ posts.

I have a facial deformity, making me a 1/10 automatically.

What kind of deformity do you have?
 
I call women toilets only to Call attention to the fact that they would rather serve as a temporary cum receptacle in a harem for (hot) guys who don’t care about them than be an ugly guy’s gf.

I only want a gf to love and to be loved by. But what I want is not female nature, atleast not in regards to guys like us.

I have a theory to explain the prevalence of violent/extreme porn.. ill make a thread one of these days.

@MENSA_IQcel what renders you incel?
id love to see a thread about that one day. gl to you if u do make a thread for it
 
@MENSA_IQcel did you post on another forum or r/braincels?

I used to post on r/braincels.
What kind of deformity do you have?

This is what my mouth looks like, it's the primary deformity. The rest of my face is normal except for a really bent ear and super asymmetrical eyes.
 

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I used to post on r/braincels.

I've got a question, why the fuck do so many Redditcels insist on staying on that platform when they're simply going to get banned again and again?
 
I've got a question, why the fuck do so many Redditcels insist on staying on that platform when they're simply going to get banned again and again?

I don't insist on staying, I left, that's why I'm here. The ones that stay just like the forum because it's familiar to them.
 

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