Serious A pragmatic approach to inceldom.

[Mik_TFL]

The black pill is bitter, unbearably so tbh. I see many incels falling into despair from taking it and a lot go LDAR/NEET, some even glorify it.
I was LDARing for some periods of time, it fucking sucked. There are more rewarding ways to live as an incel.
I'm calling out the cowards that use their inceldom as an excuse to purposely give up in every other area of their lives that doesn't involve females. I find that attitude disgusting, it really makes you a lesser man, a VOLUNTARILY lesser than, and don't try to hide under your self diagnosed autism/aspergers you piece of shit... those are defects that could be worked on if you gave a fuck about it.

So, pragmatism 101:
Under the assumption that you'll be relationship-less the rest of your life (true inceldom hypothesis), ask the following question:
Is life worth without a female?
if no, kill yourself.
If yes, then it follows that you should try to live in a way that maximizes long term happiness.

 

[jet112]

you don't seem to understand, LDAR is not a choice but just the end result of a pointless life.
you study,work,college,uni,school, get married, buy a house etc. this is the normal progression of how people live their lives.
but for incels that progression stops. you basically have a bunch of money and nothing to do with it. it doesn't matter how many gadgets or cool games you buy eventually it will become pointless because you are getting old. and the older you get the less hobbies you can maintain due to how slow your brain and body is.
humans are, by design - need to raise a family. and so does every mammal on the planet. the only thing that animals do apart from raising children is sleeping and eating. which is what your'e left with at the point of inceldom

 

[Gremlincel]

I do not view any who choose to give up and rot, as lesser. This world is hell, and none asked to be brought here.

 

[leftyincel]

given anti-incels constantly tell incels to kill themselves or go mgtow, i'm going to assume this was posted in bad faith

 

[Mik_TFL]

you don't seem to understand, LDAR is not a choice but just the end result of a pointless life.
you study,work,college,uni,school, get married, buy a house etc. this is the normal progression of how people live their lives.
but for incels that progression stops. you basically have a bunch of money and nothing to do with it. it doesn't matter how many gadgets or cool games you buy eventually it will become pointless because you are getting old. and the older you get the less hobbies you can maintain due to how slow your brain and body is.
humans are, by design - need to raise a family. and so does every mammal on the planet. the only thing that animals do apart from raising children is sleeping and eating. which is what your'e left with at the point of inceldom

You seem to confuse acquiring material stuff with doing rewarding stuff. Why do people try to climb Mt. Everest? that definitely doesn't have anything to do with raising children, sleeping or eating. How about karaoking with your friends, or building a rocket for the lulz, sending a rover to mars, performing as a small band in front of an audience. There are tons of rewarding things that we can do that clearly beat LDARing

given anti-incels constantly tell incels to kill themselves or go mgtow, i'm going to assume this was posted in bad faith

not at all, and even though true incels are kind of forced mgtow's in a sense, the circumstances are different.

 

[jet112]

You seem to confuse acquiring material stuff with doing rewarding stuff. Why do people try to climb Mt. Everest? that definitely doesn't have anything to do with raising children, sleeping or eating. How about karaoking with your friends, or building a rocket for the lulz, sending a rover to mars, performing as a small band in front of an audience. There are tons of rewarding things that we can do that clearly beat LDARing

not at all, and even though true incels are kind of forced mgtow's in a sense, the circumstances are different.

no i mean goals. what are your goals? anything you do in your free time is basically a hobby.
if you don't actively pursue something then your'e not chasing goals.
you act like camping and climbing is not a social activity, it is for the most part. there is a hard limit to what is possible when your'e incel.

 

[Mik_TFL]

no i mean goals. what are your goals? anything you do in your free time is basically a hobby.
if you don't actively pursue something then your'e not chasing goals.
you act like camping and climbing is not a social activity, it is for the most part. there is a hard limit to what is possible when your'e incel.

Incels can have goals, some could be shallow like getting a particular new car or becoming a millionaire, but they don't have to be shallow. For example, I've been pursuing a career in computer science/robotics just because I'd like to help develop the first general AI capable robot. Every milestone that gets me near that goal is rewarding.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Are you a youngcel, by any chance? There are far more problems that comes with being an incel than not getting sex.

 

[Mik_TFL]

I do not view any who choose to give up and rot, as lesser. This world is hell, and none asked to be brought here.

All I'm saying is that sitting in your room rotting all day is a worst hell than pretty much pursuing anything else in your life.

Are you a youngcel, by any chance? There are far more problems that comes with being an incel than not getting sex.

I'm 27. It would seem that many fellow incels have a multitude of problems that are not necessarily inceldom related. As a male who ranks 1.97% in his local market (98% of males mog me), besides the typical ugly guy discrimination and looks of disgust I occasionally get, there don't seem to be more real problems beside that.

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

What u are failing to understand/ acknowledge is basic male evolution and biology. men are biologically wired to seek female to relationship and sex with. U cant stop it, normies can deny it as much as they want but that is how the male human works.
Sure it is possible to enjoy life without fullfilling the above instinct but that is quite rare. Material shit doesnt matter, u can have millions of dollars as an ugly male but i can guarantee ur life will still be shit because u havent fullfilled ur biological duty.

I do not view any who choose to give up and rot, as lesser. This world is hell, and none asked to be brought here.

exactly, i didnt ask or choose to be born, i am pretty much forced to live a "life" which in itself really isnt an enjoyable life, because im ugly, and always will be

 

[Mik_TFL]

What u are failing to understand/ acknowledge is basic male evolution and biology. men are biologically wired to seek female to relationship and sex with. U cant stop it, normies can deny it as much as they want but that is how the male human works.
Sure it is possible to enjoy life without fullfilling the above instinct but that is quite rare. Material shit doesnt matter, u can have millions of dollars as an ugly male but i can guarantee ur life will still be shit because u havent fullfilled ur biological duty.

I agree, that wasn't the point. My point is that almost anything beats the LDAR lifestyle in fulfillment. Sure, your life could be shit if you had millions and spend your days skydiving and banging $1000 hookers , but it will definitely won't be shittier than being an unemployed blob rotting 22 hours/day in his room. Just because 100 > 10, it doesn't get rid of the fact that 10 > 0

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

I agree, that wasn't the point. My point is that almost anything beats the LDAR lifestyle in fulfillment. Sure, your life could be shit if you had millions and spend your days skydiving and banging $1000 hookers , but it will definitely won't be shittier than being an unemployed blob rotting 22 hours/day in his room. Just because 100 > 10 doesn't get rid of the fact that 10 > 0

true, but it all depends on where such incels live, some countries are high unemployment rate, so some incels here are pretty much forced to LDAR here while waiting to hopefully score a job. I seriously believe no one here wants to be a bum ( 24/7 ldarer) but if i am wrong and there are some then yes i agree they arent helping their cause and they need to get off their lazy ass

 

[Mik_TFL]

true, but it all depends on where such incels live, some countries are high unemployment rate, so some incels here are pretty much forced to LDAR here while waiting to hopefully score a job. I seriously believe no one here wants to be a bum ( 24/7 ldarer) but if i am wrong and there are some then yes i agree they arent helping their cause and they need to get off their lazy ass

I also think that most don't REALLY want to go full LDAR, but you have to admit that the LDAR/NEET lifestyle is glorified too much here. My argument has more to do with the fact that a lot of incels try to use their inceldom to justify not trying to improve things that would definitely improve their lives, which is nonsense

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

I also think that most don't REALLY want to go full LDAR, but you have to admit that the LDAR/NEET lifestyle is glorified too much here. My argument has more to do with the fact that a lot of incels try to use their inceldom to justify not trying to improve things that would definitely improve their lives, which is nonsense

yea i see ur point, im employed, even tho its an extremely shitty retail job, its a job , and it keeps me from roping, even tho the job makes me want to kill myself, having the job stops me from roping as well simply because it reduces the amount of boredom and sadness i will experience throughout the day because i will be focused on my job

But eh, idk everyones situation is different, so who knows.

 

[Deleted member 6101]

I was LDARing for some periods of time, it fucking sucked.

In the end of the day, when everything's shitposted and done, going to work almost every single day for the rest of your life is worse

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Life isn’t worth living without female validation, only the truecels agree with me.

 

[Colin]

The black pill is bitter, unbearably so tbh. I see many incels falling into despair from taking it and a lot go LDAR/NEET, some even glorify it.
I was LDARing for some periods of time, it fucking sucked. There are more rewarding ways to live as an incel.
I'm calling out the cowards that use their inceldom as an excuse to purposely give up in every other area of their lives that doesn't involve females. I find that attitude disgusting, it really makes you a lesser man, a VOLUNTARILY lesser than, and don't try to hide under your self diagnosed autism/aspergers you piece of shit... those are defects that could be worked on if you gave a fuck about it.

So, pragmatism 101:
Under the assumption that you'll be relationship-less the rest of your life (true inceldom hypothesis), ask the following question:
Is life worth without a female?
if no, kill yourself.
If yes, then it follows that you should try to live in a way that maximizes long term happiness.

High IQ post.

As a 28-year-old virgin who has never had a girlfriend and extremely likely to never have one, I can honestly say I've had a pretty decent life so far other than the obvious abject failure with girls.

Of course it's frustrating, and I'd rather not be in this position, but it's not the be all and end all. There is more to life than girls.

 

[Mik_TFL]

In the end of the day, when everything's shitposted and done, going to work almost every single day for the rest of your life is worse

Who said anything about work, even going out cycling a bit or learning how to cook as a way to save money, or going to a local hackerspace and helping random kids with their electronics projects... I get that not everyone can get a job they enjoy like me, but what's stopping them from trying?? it's not like they have kids to feed and a hysteric stay at home wife that requires stability.

Life isn’t worth living without female validation, only the truecels agree with me.

If you really thought that you would have killed yourself already. But even if you just didn't out of cowardice, it still doesn't make any of my points moot, there are things that you can do that beat LDARing all day and I'm not talking about working

 

[Deleted member 6101]

going out cycling a bit or learning how to cook

LDARing doesn't mean literally dying. You can do all these minor stuff- the point being that you "aren't moving in life" within that state.

but what's stopping them from trying

Many people don't like to work... like, at all. Especially incels, considering they shill out between 30 and 50% of their income for the nanny state that indirectly wants them out of the gene pool.

 

[Mik_TFL]

yea i see ur point, im employed, even tho its an extremely shitty retail job, its a job , and it keeps me from roping, even tho the job makes me want to kill myself, having the job stops me from roping as well simply because it reduces the amount of boredom and sadness i will experience throughout the day because i will be focused on my job

But eh, idk everyones situation is different, so who knows.

Could you upgrade to a better job?, or maybe grow within the one you are in (without putting extra hours obviously) You could pick a book on retail management and read 5 mins/day, you could check the job market for something new every now and then. Are there inefficiencies at the place you work in that you could help correct that upper management would like? It's the little things that grow you over time. Give you an example: the other day we were going to throw some boards away from a big wooden box that broke during transport, and at the same time our tiny storage room was so full at floorspace that we had stuff laying in the corridor... It took me 15 minutes to cut the box and reconfigure it into a shelf to increase our storage space, nobody told me to do it, I just came up with the idea, told my superior I was implementing it and now everyone is happier that the corridor is free. The mentality really is key here.