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Serious A CALL FOR SERIOUS REFORM WITHIN THE SITE: THE 16 THESES.

VitaminS

VitaminS

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To anyone reading this,

For those of you with eyes to see, the decadence of this forum is evident. If you truly care about the maintenance and longevity of this forum, if you truly believe in a community for incels, then you will allow this threads existence through action. If left unchecked, I am certain nobody would be content with the end result of what this forum is becoming. All I ask of you is to ping mods, copy this link, spread these amongst yourselves so that we may thrive and the principles of this site may flourish.

I URGE YOU TO READ THROUGH THESE THESES FULLY.

@Master
First and foremost, above even the first listed theses is this: The purpose of this site, and its formation, is purely to offer discussion and a tight-knit safe community of incels to congregate online. Nothing else.

The theses are these:
  1. The term incel must be understood as referring to only involuntary celibacy, not black-pill ideology nor any fictitious centralized structure. By allowing any room for the association of 'incel' with an identity is a means of allowing the adversary to define who we are.
  2. Doing so produces an influx of people (fakecels) who wish to associate themselves with this fictitious identity only to subscribe to this ideology, who will masquerade as an incel to fit in and further violate this forum as means to create a space amongst themselves to congregate for purely ideological discussions.
  3. The penalty of a ban remains as long as the individual should not vow to refrain from that of which they were banned for. Justification or appeal to why what that individual did should not exist within the confines of a ban.
  4. The mods neither desire nor are able to remit any bans for anything that does not violate the rules previously established.
  5. Profile pictures of sexual nature or content are unacceptable. The explicit nature does not allow for a space free of sexual-desire, the basis of which the suffering imposed on us is derived.
  6. The latter, profile pictures of sexual nature, serve no purpose nor relate in anyway to the content of the forum, having no reason to exist. Personal freedoms are not prioritized over the law, as if they were to be in any extent, the rules of this forum should and would be done away with.
  7. Again addressing the latter, if a personal freedom that is permitted imposes restrictions upon others freedom (in this case it inhibits individuals ability to avoid sexually explicit content) it should not exist. Should it exist, there must be some option for individuals to opt out of NSFW content or block users profile pictures listed as such.
  8. The same goes for female profile pictures with the intent of showing off a female in a sexual manner. Why should this forum allow for members to bolster, again, in the lack of, the main cause for users loneliness.
  9. Examination of intent behind violations of rules should be examined rather then a legalistic black and white view of a violation. To use the previous as an example: was the picture of the woman a figure within the individuals religion, a hero of choice, an important figure, etc. or was it used with inappropriate intent?
  10. As previously stated, any use of this forum that violates its intended purpose contributes to the forums decadence into something new and not of use. That being said, pornographic and explicit content falls out of the realm of discussion and communications and enables users to act outside the confines of what this site is used for. To allow such is a severe violation of the forum.
  11. Those who act ignorantly to black-pill ideology must not suffer any consequence nor ill-willed comments, as each and every person learns in their own time.
  12. Those tares of changing the rules based on votes within a timeframe evidently are so due to the time-frame in which those demographics of users are active, thus invalidating the vote.
  13. Those who are freed by favoritism in the eyes of a mod, from all penalties, have no right to be released from them.
  14. Mods should not be left unchecked.
  15. The use of spam as a means to acquire 'points' as to make it seem a new user has a higher post count then they do is subversive in nature. This must not be allowed.
  16. Allow there to be greater inspection to who be allowed in, for this process should strict and a formal discussion should be required rather then a single premeditated explanation and 'note' to be submitted to the mods.
UPVOTE THIS IN THE SUGGESTIONS:

Personal note:

1708656199719

St. Paul the Apostle ^

For those of you who know me, you will also know my faith. Let me say that these theses is purely secular in nature and the logic behind them is purely for the betterment of the forum (the forum being the community as a whole). That being said, I am compelled to call upon St. Paul, the patron of scribes and writers, to intercede for me, through the grace of God Almighty, so that what I do might not be cast aside, but that every onlooker may be inspired by my own care to also care for others in this forum. Though while we may be separated in location, race, opinion, etc. we are united by a force stronger then any divisive aspect I mentioned before: struggle. We are all to look after each other and help each other improve and grow, as our experiences are all the same. I know for a fact, that if not for the comfort and solace offered within this community in knowing there are others out there who are entrenched in the same struggle, feelings, and sadness as you, I would not feel as content as I do now.

For those who took time to read through, thank you. Any addictions or critique will be read through and possibly added or improved.
 
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This forum needs to be cleansed from fakeCels tbh,
You can type a whole high Effort Paragraph, but the real problem is fakeCels
 
VitaminS said:
Doing so produces an influx of people (fakecels) who wish to associate themselves with this fictitious identity only to subscribe to this ideology, who will masquerade as an incel to fit in and further violate this forum as means to create a space amongst themselves to congregate for purely ideological discussions.
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:yes:
 
SupremeGentleCel said:
This forum needs to be cleansed from fakeCels tbh,
You can type a whole high Effort Paragraph, but the real problem is fakeCels
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I propose that every new user describe their situation as thoroghly as possible
 
SupremeGentleCel said:
This forum needs to be cleansed from fakeCels tbh,
You can type a whole high Effort Paragraph, but the real problem is fakeCels
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I might argue that this is the mods fault. They are responsible for the maintenance of this forum, and while I recognize the limits in what they can do, they take on a responsibility they must fill.
 
To long did not read
 
Biowaste Removal said:
I propose that every new user describe their situation as thoroghly as possible
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What I was proposing is an actual active and live discussion with a moderator rather then some submitted and premediated note for a mod to review. This will allow for a more full revolution of the potential users character rather then someone who may sit there and proof-read there statement for an hour, making sure no facet of their 'note' seems like they are not an incel.
 
VitaminS said:
What I was proposing is an actual active and live discussion with a moderator rather then some submitted and premediated note for a mod to review. This will allow for a more full revolution of the potential users character rather then someone who may sit there and proof-read there statement for an hour, making sure no facet of their 'note' seems like they are not an incel.
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Live chat is high IQ idea, It's very easy to tell who is larping and who is not on the internet from my experience. A NT normie cannot pretend to be an autistic incel.
 
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VitaminS said:
I might argue that this is the mods fault. They are responsible for the maintenance of this forum, and while I recognize the limits in what they can do, they take on a responsibility they must fill.
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Sorry, I am fairly new to this forum (joined roughly 11 days ago).
You are on .is for a much longer time, so probably know the priorities of what needs to be improved here on this forum.
But from my perspective, I´ve noticed that a lot of fellow .is members claim fakeCels are registered as well.
Most recently, I came across a thread which basically claimed that a chadLite was on here.
 
The problem is, there's no shortage of normie involuntary celibates. They would brag about their looks and shit all day.

That's why we should only keep those who believe in the black pill and isn't using it to maliciously attack other incels
 
SupremeGentleCel said:
Sorry, I am fairly new to this forum (joined roughly 11 days ago).
You are on .is for a much longer time, so probably know the priorities of what needs to be improved here on this forum.
But from my perspective, I´ve noticed that a lot of fellow .is members claim fakeCels are registered as well.
Most recently, I came across a thread which basically claimed that a chadLite was on here.
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As someone who has been on the forum for some time, I have seen many pictures of many members who are MTN-HTN
 
AsiaCel said:
The problem is, there's no shortage of normie involuntary celibates. They would brag about their looks and shit all day.

That's why we should only keep those who believe in the black pill and isn't using it to maliciously attack other incels
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This is not an ideological forum. There is no room for discussion around this. The black pill is based in truth and statistics. What I reference in the theses you refer purely refers to those who are attacked for not yet realizing the black pill or disagreeing with it due to misinformation of lack of information.
 
@LeFrenchCel @Caesercel
 
Nograsscel said:
My antiestablishmentarian side disagrees.
We should have minimal restrictions.
I do however agree that foid pfps should be banned.
Presenting oneself with a foid pfp should be bannable under the current no LGBT laws.
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If you are anti-establishment then you should be fore doing away with the forum. What you are, and need to realize, is infantile in your ideology (this is not an insult) as you yourself believe you are some moral derivative or baseline for what we should and should not be able to do. This forum MUST be more struct to those who act outside of the confines of the forums purpose, and more lenient to those who genuinely want to participate (those people evidently being truecels)
 
Not bad ideas but none of these will save the forum or remove the problem that fakecels and infiltrators are.
 
I fully agree with this. Sometimes you can type a paragraph like this but they still wont understand i see so many with foid avis and coomer avis. Literally what makes us feel lonely is what they put as there avi? Anyways nice thread
 
heavily agree on the fakecels thing. You have normies, who they themselves say they're normies, say they're incels because "muh 90% of man are getting no pussy". Fuck you mean 90% of man get no pussy dumbass???
 
:feelsYall:mods should pin this
 
VitaminS said:
I have seen many pictures of many members who are MTN-HTN
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yes, so that means these members can easily attract women, but due to their mindset (basement dwelling, LDAR and mentally retarded), they rather scroll through .is instead of approaching women, and putting in effort.
Get these fucking bastards off here.
There are members on here spending 100k on leg lengthening surgery, thinking of pulling the trigger and overdosing on meds to numb the pain.
.org is a better place for Normies
 
SupremeGentleCel said:
yes, so that means these members can easily attract women, but due to their mindset (basement dwelling, LDAR and mentally retarded), they rather scroll through .is instead of approaching women, and putting in effort.
Get these fucking bastards off here.
There are members on here spending 100k on leg lengthening surgery, thinking of pulling the trigger and overdosing on meds to numb the pain.
.org is a better place for Normies
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Please upvote this in the suggestions:
 
Fatass3000 said:
heavily agree on the fakecels thing. You have normies, who they themselves say they're normies, say they're incels because "muh 90% of man are getting no pussy". Fuck you mean 90% of man get no pussy dumbass???
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Couldn't agree more. The signals of fakecels are loud and clear, yet there is little to no action against it, please upvote this in suggestions:
 
VitaminS said:
If you are anti-establishment then you should be fore doing away with the forum. What you are, and need to realize, is infantile in your ideology (this is not an insult) as you yourself believe you are some moral derivative or baseline for what we should and should not be able to do. This forum MUST be more struct to those who act outside of the confines of the forums purpose, and more lenient to those who genuinely want to participate (those people evidently being truecels)
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tbh I put that terribly. I just don't think that taking an authoritarian stance (apart from the foid pics) will be good for the forum. One of the reasons that keeps people here is the laxity in rules and regulations. One of the things that out keep people out is further regulations, "entry inspections" that are "strict and formal". No mentalcel or person with social anxiety is engaging in those, many incels won't bother, whereas fakecels will still slip through the ranks by lying. It is not an effective way to get rid of fakecels.

Our growth is rapid, almost 25% in the last year. As society crumbles, we will expand even more. People in relationships, fakecels and extreme humblebraggers are banned on sight anyways. We should make things even more lenient, or at least continue as we are so we can continue to expand, and amass even more members and engagement. An influx of newcels will be completely fine, they will simply be absorbed into the forum, or banned as per existing rules for promoting bluepilled ideology.

I have seen plenty of groups, incel, neoluddite, Islamist. The ones that attempted to codify and regulate generally failed. It is not effective for non-mainstream groups, it reduces the influx of new members significantly and over time it even decreases the zeal of the group as weight is given to organisational procedures. Formality, strictness, blocking moderator-favoured ban cop-outs etc. all reduce the homeliness and friendship found within the group, which is a major motivator for disenfranchised men. You will not find this kind of chill and less regulated on a large scale pretty much anywhere else on the internet. Procedures, restrictions, inspections etc. are not the way to go.
 
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i'm trying my best to kick fakecels out of here
 
Trucel trait: you read the entire OP
 
I aree about the sexual avatars, one dude here triggers me with a thick anime booty.
 
There should be a section for trucels where they have to verify how ugly they actually are. Glowy shit but how else can you verify inceldom status?
 
lifefuel said:
There should be a section for trucels where they have to verify how ugly they actually are. Glowy shit but how else can you verify inceldom status?
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What would qualify as trucel by your definition? A way to make sure the verification is "legit" would be having them hold up some kind of paper with their username on it.
 
DarkStarDown said:
What would qualify as trucel by your definition? A way to make sure the verification is "legit" would be having them hold up some kind of paper with their username on it.
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That's what I mean.

To me, 3 is the highest face rating for a truecel. Anything above that is normie or chad. Have users verify and vote sort of like a panel thing. Subtract 1 or 2 points if asian.
 
Very good suggestions: I especially like the ones about making the entry requirements more strict & also having a sort of "checks & balances" system for the mods.

However, I'm kinda torn about the sexual content rule: I agree Avis shouldn't be sexual, but I think nsfw content should be allowed provided it's labeled appropriately, kept in the sewers, and isn't too degenerate(not just some random foid in a bikini or anime waifu, but like furry shit)

About those acting ignorant, I would say that creates some kind of "grey area" for the rules: It could allow for infiltrators to subvert.
 
Mods should have to verify trucel status BEFORE ANYONE ELSE
 
lifefuel said:
That's what I mean.

To me, 3 is the highest face rating for a truecel. Anything above that is normie or chad. Have users verify and vote sort of like a panel thing. Subtract 1 or 2 points if asian.
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Leaking faces is not a good idea.
 
VitaminS said:
To anyone reading this,

For those of you with eyes to see, the decadence of this forum is evident. If you truly care about the maintenance and longevity of this forum, if you truly believe in a community for incels, then you will allow this threads existence through action. If left unchecked, I am certain nobody would be content with the end result of what this forum is becoming. All I ask of you is to ping mods, copy this link, spread these amongst yourselves so that we may thrive and the principles of this site may flourish.

I URGE YOU TO READ THROUGH THESE THESES FULLY.

@Master
First and foremost, above even the first listed theses is this: The purpose of this site, and its formation, is purely to offer discussion and a tight-knit safe community of incels to congregate online. Nothing else.

The theses are these:
  1. The term incel must be understood as referring to only involuntary celibacy, not black-pill ideology nor any fictitious centralized structure. By allowing any room for the association of 'incel' with an identity is a means of allowing the adversary to define who we are.
  2. Doing so produces an influx of people (fakecels) who wish to associate themselves with this fictitious identity only to subscribe to this ideology, who will masquerade as an incel to fit in and further violate this forum as means to create a space amongst themselves to congregate for purely ideological discussions.
  3. The penalty of a ban remains as long as the individual should not vow to refrain from that of which they were banned for. Justification or appeal to why what that individual did should not exist within the confines of a ban.
  4. The mods neither desire nor are able to remit any bans for anything that does not violate the rules previously established.
  5. Profile pictures of sexual nature or content are unacceptable. The explicit nature does not allow for a space free of sexual-desire, the basis of which the suffering imposed on us is derived.
  6. The latter, profile pictures of sexual nature, serve no purpose nor relate in anyway to the content of the forum, having no reason to exist. Personal freedoms are not prioritized over the law, as if they were to be in any extent, the rules of this forum should and would be done away with.
  7. Again addressing the latter, if a personal freedom that is permitted imposes restrictions upon others freedom (in this case it inhibits individuals ability to avoid sexually explicit content) it should not exist. Should it exist, there must be some option for individuals to opt out of NSFW content or block users profile pictures listed as such.
  8. The same goes for female profile pictures with the intent of showing off a female in a sexual manner. Why should this forum allow for members to bolster, again, in the lack of, the main cause for users loneliness.
  9. Examination of intent behind violations of rules should be examined rather then a legalistic black and white view of a violation. To use the previous as an example: was the picture of the woman a figure within the individuals religion, a hero of choice, an important figure, etc. or was it used with inappropriate intent?
  10. As previously stated, any use of this forum that violates its intended purpose contributes to the forums decadence into something new and not of use. That being said, pornographic and explicit content falls out of the realm of discussion and communications and enables users to act outside the confines of what this site is used for. To allow such is a severe violation of the forum.
  11. Those who act ignorantly to black-pill ideology must not suffer any consequence nor ill-willed comments, as each and every person learns in their own time.
  12. Those tares of changing the rules based on votes within a timeframe evidently are so due to the time-frame in which those demographics of users are active, thus invalidating the vote.
  13. Those who are freed by favoritism in the eyes of a mod, from all penalties, have no right to be released from them.
  14. Mods should not be left unchecked.
  15. The use of spam as a means to acquire 'points' as to make it seem a new user has a higher post count then they do is subversive in nature. This must not be allowed.
  16. Allow there to be greater inspection to who be allowed in, for this process should strict and a formal discussion should be required rather then a single premeditated explanation and 'note' to be submitted to the mods.
UPVOTE THIS IN THE SUGGESTIONS:

Personal note:

View attachment 1071633
St. Paul the Apostle ^

For those of you who know me, you will also know my faith. Let me say that these theses is purely secular in nature and the logic behind them is purely for the betterment of the forum (the forum being the community as a whole). That being said, I am compelled to call upon St. Paul, the patron of scribes and writers, to intercede for me, through the grace of God Almighty, so that what I do might not be cast aside, but that every onlooker may be inspired by my own care to also care for others in this forum. Though while we may be separated in location, race, opinion, etc. we are united by a force stronger then any divisive aspect I mentioned before: struggle. We are all to look after each other and help each other improve and grow, as our experiences are all the same. I know for a fact, that if not for the comfort and solace offered within this community in knowing there are others out there who are entrenched in the same struggle, feelings, and sadness as you, I would not feel as content as I do now.

For those who took time to read through, thank you. Any addictions or critique will be read through and possibly added or improved.
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I agree
 
Smh all these niggas tryna ban cute foid avis it's literally over for Aegyocels... I will now be forced to look at only avis of nazi symbols and men. No more cute foid lifefuel.
Sad K Pop GIF

@zerozerozero @Spooky_Heejin
 
Evangelioncel said:
Smh all these niggas tryna ban cute foid avis it's literally over for Aegyocels... I will now be forced to look at only avis of nazi symbols and men. No more cute foid lifefuel.
Sad K Pop GIF

@zerozerozero @Spooky_Heejin
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Having an AVI that Supports the ideology that murdered over 40 million people: User is based and allowed.
Having a cute kpop girl as an AVI: User should be banned.
It's not logical at all.
 
Spooky_Heejin said:
Having an AVI that Supports the ideology that murdered over 40 million people: User is based and allowed.
Having a cute kpop girl as an AVI: User should be banned.
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Stormfags.is smh, baffles me hearing their reasoning for banning foid avis. "We can't have fuh foids! :reeeeee: ", HITLER WOULD'VE GASSED US ALL TOGETHER IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP YOU STUPID NIGGA. Let me chill with my cute foid avi.
 
Evangelioncel said:
Stormfags.is smh, baffles me hearing their reasoning for banning foid avis. "We can't have fuh foids! :reeeeee: ", HITLER WOULD'VE GASSED US ALL TOGETHER IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP YOU STUPID NIGGA. Let me chill with my cute foid avi.
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Exactly. When I see a hitler avi, I don't need to be reminded that if Hitler won he would've brutally murdered me and my whole family. Having a cute foid AVI is nothing compared to actual Hitler shit.
 
Spooky_Heejin said:
Exactly. When I see a hitler avi, I don't need to be reminded that if Hitler won he would've brutally murdered me and my whole family. Having a cute foid AVI is nothing compared to actual Hitler shit.
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Hitler should've won so I wouldn't be alive today debating on some faggot shit like "should we ban foid avis". Niggas saying this are faggots in denial jfl.
 
Evangelioncel said:
Hitler should've won so I wouldn't be alive today debating on some faggot shit like "should we ban foid avis". Niggas saying this are faggots in denial jfl.
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I don't know who should've won. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. The japs murdered over 20 million chinese civilians and millions of Indonesian civilians. Keep in mind whatever your asian country that you're part of likely would've come under attack, genocided, and or enslaved.
 
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