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如果寫程式會變窮, 冇前途, 畀人睇低it狗嘅話, 會發生咩事?
我哋唔使估, 因為香港創科界已經係咁
我寫程式寫咗都幾年, 我諗應該係mid level, 2022入職, 2023被裁員, 2024搵到新工, 份糧由32k降到20k; 我睇嗰啲中介公司, 依家佢哋analyst programmers分量係以前一般programmer嗰條水。
平均程式員嘅薪酬係大約18k - 30k左右
我知道好多人都會一齊同家人合作用啲灰色地帶嘅殘疾, 綜援政策去住比較大嘅公屋, 避免嗰啲板間房, 籠屋等等。
香港大多數嘅apps都係垃圾, 係有原因嘅。
大家都有做有36唔做又36嘅心態, 而且會有非官方嘅辦公室"規則"。
你唔舉我玩手機, 我就唔報串你睇抖音。
程式員常用ai寫嘅code, 有時嗰啲commit直情係會留低超級明顯Gemini嘅留言 (// 1. You must do X)
除咗某些senior之外, 大多數嘅senior/mid level係唔會理你點寫個程式; 冇乜嘢big o嘅理論或者討論空間
因為review code好曬心機, 通常你寫完個code都會畀你"擁有", 喺未來有乜嘢問題或者要加乜嘢都係你嘅事
最狡猾嘅就係而家啲management係唔會叫你跟死規矩, 佢哋係會畀個好概括嘅目的你, 跟住要你演繹佢係講緊啲咩; 雖然睇落呢個好似係正確嘅方法, 但係對程式員嚟講, 基本上就係要佢哋孭曬啲鑊, 有冬瓜豆腐就要佢哋算帳。
好多程式員都係generalists, 要做曬full stack: 手機app, web app, 介面, 等等; 通常如果有個新功能推出, 由backend API至到手機介面中文翻譯, 都係一條友做曬。
而且佢哋係冇工作保護; 如果老細叫你寫個危險嘅程式 (例如有關生死嘅程式), 你係冇保, 啲程式有乜嘢edge cases, 而且你唔夠時間試嘅話, 老細就會話: 得啦得啦, 到時user有乜嘢complaints咪fix咗佢囉
雖然好多工都係九點至六點, 但實際上你係要喺地鐵同人逼成一個半鐘左右; 因為好多呢啲工都喺港島區, 而且港島區咁撚貴, 我哋又咁撚窮, 咁你可以諗到個logical conclusion就係咁, 所以嘥精神唔只係工作。
, 你可以睇到點解香港大多數嘅程式都係垃圾, 點解香港啲程式成日畀人hack (冇保安嘅APIs), 點解大多數嘅香港程式喺play store都會咁低分, 日日畀人屌垃圾, 點解香港科技界係畀人睇係半桶水, 大家有眼見到!
我搵咗一個case study去證明我講嘅嘢, 但你上網睇, 其實唔止一個, 香港科技界係臭名遠播。
國際公司當然畀錢畀得多好多, 但係好少嗰啲職位, 你出嚟打工, 個競爭咁大, 係基本冇可能跳入嗰啲職位, 加上90%嘅入門程式工作已經被削減。
最後, 我完全舉腳大家hea做, 因為係一個間接性集體"請願"(quiet quitting), 發出一個訊號: 你畀垃圾我哋, 我哋就會畀返垃圾你哋 (garbage in garbage out)。
蘇聯有個嘢好啱: you pretend to pay, and we pretend to work.
我哋唔使估, 因為香港創科界已經係咁
我寫程式寫咗都幾年, 我諗應該係mid level, 2022入職, 2023被裁員, 2024搵到新工, 份糧由32k降到20k; 我睇嗰啲中介公司, 依家佢哋analyst programmers分量係以前一般programmer嗰條水。
平均程式員嘅薪酬係大約18k - 30k左右
我知道好多人都會一齊同家人合作用啲灰色地帶嘅殘疾, 綜援政策去住比較大嘅公屋, 避免嗰啲板間房, 籠屋等等。
香港大多數嘅apps都係垃圾, 係有原因嘅。
大家都有做有36唔做又36嘅心態, 而且會有非官方嘅辦公室"規則"。
你唔舉我玩手機, 我就唔報串你睇抖音。
程式員常用ai寫嘅code, 有時嗰啲commit直情係會留低超級明顯Gemini嘅留言 (// 1. You must do X)
除咗某些senior之外, 大多數嘅senior/mid level係唔會理你點寫個程式; 冇乜嘢big o嘅理論或者討論空間
因為review code好曬心機, 通常你寫完個code都會畀你"擁有", 喺未來有乜嘢問題或者要加乜嘢都係你嘅事
最狡猾嘅就係而家啲management係唔會叫你跟死規矩, 佢哋係會畀個好概括嘅目的你, 跟住要你演繹佢係講緊啲咩; 雖然睇落呢個好似係正確嘅方法, 但係對程式員嚟講, 基本上就係要佢哋孭曬啲鑊, 有冬瓜豆腐就要佢哋算帳。
好多程式員都係generalists, 要做曬full stack: 手機app, web app, 介面, 等等; 通常如果有個新功能推出, 由backend API至到手機介面中文翻譯, 都係一條友做曬。
而且佢哋係冇工作保護; 如果老細叫你寫個危險嘅程式 (例如有關生死嘅程式), 你係冇保, 啲程式有乜嘢edge cases, 而且你唔夠時間試嘅話, 老細就會話: 得啦得啦, 到時user有乜嘢complaints咪fix咗佢囉
雖然好多工都係九點至六點, 但實際上你係要喺地鐵同人逼成一個半鐘左右; 因為好多呢啲工都喺港島區, 而且港島區咁撚貴, 我哋又咁撚窮, 咁你可以諗到個logical conclusion就係咁, 所以嘥精神唔只係工作。
, 你可以睇到點解香港大多數嘅程式都係垃圾, 點解香港啲程式成日畀人hack (冇保安嘅APIs), 點解大多數嘅香港程式喺play store都會咁低分, 日日畀人屌垃圾, 點解香港科技界係畀人睇係半桶水, 大家有眼見到!
我搵咗一個case study去證明我講嘅嘢, 但你上網睇, 其實唔止一個, 香港科技界係臭名遠播。
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HK apps are pain… what’s your worst experience?
Been going down a rabbit hole reading Play Store reviews of HK apps (like PayMe, MoneyBack, AlipayHK, HKTVmall, OpenRice, ParknShop…). Ended up combing through like 13k reviews (don’t ask why, I clearly have no life).
The crazy thing is: the complaints are super consistent across almost all of them. Posting here to see if it matches your experience.
The big pain points I kept seeing:
Slow & buggy AF – apps freezing, crashing, or taking forever right when you’re trying to pay at checkout.
Coupons/rewards never work – codes vanish, loyalty points expire before you can use them, vouchers don’t apply… feels like they dangle rewards they know you’ll never get.
Too nosey – random permissions, tracking everything. PayMe’s public feed of your friends’ transactions is still wild to me.
UI from hell – broken search, useless filters, drowning in ads/popups. (HKTVmall + OpenRice were called out a LOT.)
Hidden costs / scammy vibes – “buy 1 get 1 free” but they inflate the price first, sneaky delivery/customs fees, people receiving cheaper knock-offs instead of what they ordered.
App-specific callouts from the reviews:
PayMe: vouchers are basically unusable.
HKTVmall/OpenRice: feels like ad platforms disguised as apps.
ParknShop: cart items disappear + runs like it’s from 2008.
So yeah, curious:
Do these complaints line up with what you’ve seen?
Which HK app do you find the most painful?
Anything obvious I missed?
Not shilling anything, just doing some UX research + genuinely interested in the collective suffering here
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國際公司當然畀錢畀得多好多, 但係好少嗰啲職位, 你出嚟打工, 個競爭咁大, 係基本冇可能跳入嗰啲職位, 加上90%嘅入門程式工作已經被削減。
最後, 我完全舉腳大家hea做, 因為係一個間接性集體"請願"(quiet quitting), 發出一個訊號: 你畀垃圾我哋, 我哋就會畀返垃圾你哋 (garbage in garbage out)。
蘇聯有個嘢好啱: you pretend to pay, and we pretend to work.
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