LifeFuel 30 something Civilian Virgin. At a fork in the road. Advise me INCEL brothers.

[bluecollarCEL]

This is real stuff right here guys. In the past I have said i'm a 31yo virgin on this board but the truth is I am a 35yo Civilian Virgin. When I turned 30 I fucked a handful of Escorts. I haven't accomplished shit in the 17 years (2001) since graduating HS. I got a worthless History degree and have been working bullshit jobs such as Fast Food, Retail, Telemarketing, etc. My degree is fucking WORTHLESS. I have lived mostly with my grandmother but at points have lived with roommates. I know my grandmother is on her last legs and I need to make shit happen now.

At 35 I feel like I have let my life slip away and I finally have the motivation to make a change. I figure you only have one life so why not become the best you can be. So I have come up with 2 options for me. Option A and Option B.

Option A is since I am the average guy I can't become a famous Athlete/Musician/Actor and the most prestigious job for the average guy is to become a Surgeon. To become a Heart Surgeon it would take 16 years. So if I start now I will be 51 years old when I'm done and add on another 5 years for Student Loan Debt so perhaps 56yo when I finally break even. The ONLY reason why I want to do this, is to be honest, is to get PUSSY. I don't care about a stupid House/Car/Vacations I only want to become a Surgeon so I can attract women. Of course at 51 I would only be able to pull used up slut 40yo Single Mothers. Also I would have to basically just Work/School/Study for the next 16 years. No free time for any hobbies.

Option B is by far the better option and the one I will probably end up doing. I now understand Pussy Dynamics/Psychology of the Snatch. I am 35. I am a baldcel. But facially I can pass for 25 if I cover up the dark circles under my eyes with makeup. I'm a framecel so I don't look like an old man. I would become that badboy that all the women desire. I would load the fuck up on Roids, get some Tattoos, get a Motorcycle, and wear Boots/Lifts to go from 5'11 to 6'1. I will also get Earrings to complete the badboy persona. I figure I can do this transformation in about 1 year with Roids. I would live off of Student Loans and just looksmax all day long. I would basically Workout/Fuck Chicks/Ride Motorcycle and do marathon Videogame sessions with adderall+weed. I would eat shitty fast food also as I will be on the roids and don't care about a heart attack. I will DrugMAX also: Caffeine, Viagra, Kratom. Workout with caffeine, Fuck with viagra, Game with kratom+SODA.

IF I CAN do a 10 year run of fucking prime 18-22yo College Girls I can die a happy man. I am not afriad to die as I am a 35yo Civilian Virgin. I figure I am already fucking dead.

The goal is to get PUSSY, and prime age PUSSY.

If you guys have any other options such as IT/Engineering, etc. Let me know.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

LDAR
You're looking for "prime age pussy" but you're 35 and have only had sex with escorts. Not sure what you look like but it can't be good if you're 35 years old and haven't had sex outside of escorts
It's over for you

 

[bluecollarCEL]

LDAR
You're looking for "prime age pussy" but you're 35 and have only had sex with escorts. Not sure what you look like but it can't be good if you're 35 years old and haven't had sex outside of escorts
It's over for you

I hear ya. Maybe i'm coping thinking I can have a SLAYING spree. I should just accept my fate, throw in the towel and LDAR with a top of the line gaming computer.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

I hear ya. Maybe i'm coping thinking I can have a SLAYING spree. I should just accept my fate, throw in the towel and LDAR with a top of the line gaming computer.

Yeah, your original post is a cope filled trainwreck not gonna lie

 

[Just_another_cel]

Being virtually the same age, I have the authority and responsibility to tell you its officially over.

 

[incel scum]

dude its over

 

[Scott Norman]

Psychology of the Snatch

 

[AfrikanCel]

Get a grip dude. You're 35. It never began. Stop being deluded.

 

[RandomGuy]

After granny dies you could be in the doghouse.

 

[acnescarcel]

worth a shot i guess. fuck it.

 

[bluecollarCEL]

Get a grip dude. You're 35. It never began. Stop being deluded.

Hope > Cope > Rope

 

[Izayacel]

nothing to loose, you should try

 

[0764]

Dude give up and either LDAR or KYS. Lol you’re 35 and thinking prime age girls are gonna be attracted to you?? When they can easily go to the club and get any 18-25 year old Chad they want

 

[fOreVER]

If you are 5-6 facially go ahead.

If you are white go to asia or even black do thug game

becoming a surgeon is betabuxxing and hard. seriously you think it is a walk in the park?

 

[Kirito3]

Blow all your money on food/travel/contraband then go ER+ suicide by cop

 

[bluecollarCEL]

If you are 5-6 facially go ahead.

If you are white go to asia or even black do thug game

becoming a surgeon is betabuxxing and hard. seriously you think it is a walk in the park?

Yeah. TEFL in Japan/South Korea is probably the safe bet.

 

[fOreVER]

Yeah. TEFL in Japan/South Korea is probably the safe bet.

yeah especially your humanity degree it can work. You're quite tall in those countries. gl.

 

[CopingGymcel]

What ethnicity are you?

 

[Deleted member 4760]

I've been reading a lot TRP materials with older men ''waking up'', gymceling, looksmaxing and end up slaying pussy usually..The probelem is that most of these men have at least the thing that most older men have as the usual advantage over younger men in their 20's : Money, Career and Financial security...

If you have a possesions and own things; house, car, money, good career, it is always possible to looksmax and completely change the way women look at you if you're not too subhuman looking...


But bro...you have nothing...35 and still live your granny's house? No career lol? How much do you have in bank account? Can you even travel? You have nothing to back you up..Just looksmaxing won't help you agasint younger dude, older men are EXPECTED to have wealthmaxx and moneymaxxed already (hence why they're selected for beta buxxing)..

It might really be over..

 

[NotQuiteChadLite]

If you aren't a virgin GTFO you can count on two hands your different escort lays? Wow..

Go to a loveshy forum not a involuntary celibate forum when your dick has been inside a vagina multiple times. Infuriating.

 

[Mr100]

When I was 34 I decided to become a doctor - 10 minutes struggling with an elementary chemistry book ended that idea. Instead I did an English degree - fat lot of good that did.

Med schools wont finance you over 30 - so forget being a doctor.

If you aren't a virgin GTFO you can count on two hands your different escort lays? Wow..

Go to a loveshy forum not a involuntary celibate forum when your dick has been inside a vagina multiple times. Infuriating.

Escorts dont count.

He is an incel if he's never had a civilian fuck.

 

[bluecollarCEL]

What ethnicity are you?

White.

I've been reading a lot TRP materials with older men ''waking up'', gymceling, looksmaxing and end up slaying pussy usually..The probelem is that most of these men have at least the thing that most older men have as the usual advantage over younger men in their 20's : Money, Career and Financial security...

If you have a possesions and own things; house, car, money, good career, it is always possible to looksmax and completely change the way women look at you if you're not too subhuman looking...


But bro...you have nothing...35 and still live your granny's house? No career lol? How much do you have in bank account? Can you even travel? You have nothing to back you up..Just looksmaxing won't help you agasint younger dude, older men are EXPECTED to have wealthmaxx and moneymaxxed already (hence why they're selected for beta buxxing)..

It might really be over..

Yeah. I guess it is over in US. I can still do alright in SEA though without money. FUCK. I should of juiced when I was 16. I have about 5,000 in my bank account.

 

[Deleted member 3385]

forget pussy, just moneycel

you're 35, it's over, I am 2 years older and the only available women my age are divorced fat roasties with 3 kids looking for a beta bux provider

it sucks but you missed slaying prime college pussy, you will never get that chance, college girls are slaying college chads, not guys in their 30's working average jobs, you just need to move on.

 

[bluecollarCEL]

If you aren't a virgin GTFO you can count on two hands your different escort lays? Wow..

Go to a loveshy forum not a involuntary celibate forum when your dick has been inside a vagina multiple times. Infuriating.

I said a handful bro that's 5. I had condoms on with all of em. I had to PAY for sex. Ease up.

 

[CopingGymcel]

White.

Go to SEA and never look back. You're done here in the west being a 35 year old civilian virgin. At least you can pretend to be someone you're not over in Asia since you have some prostitute experience.

Try Tinder in Thailand or sign up to www.thaifriendly.com and see if anyone is interested.

 

[bluecollarCEL]

forget pussy, just moneycel

you're 35, it's over, I am 2 years older and the only available women my age are divorced fat roasties with 3 kids looking for a beta bux provider

it sucks but you missed slaying prime college pussy, you will never get that chance, college girls are slaying college chads, not guys in their 30's working average jobs, you just need to move on.

I missed the boat. FUCK. Was a lazy NEET/LDAR for too long.

 

[NotQuiteChadLite]

I said a handful bro that's 5. I had condoms on with all of em. I had to PAY for sex. Ease up.

"Xd bro it was only five and I had condoms it don't count I'm still an incel"

Fuck off m8.

 

[Deleted member 6470]

Never gonna to happen.

You're 5'11, bald and OLD. If you were 6ft+ and nw1 you'd be still doomed but you'd have some hope to snatch a hateful ethnik.
And the makeup... forget it. If you don't have the original glow with no wrinkles you would have a small chance.
I don't know the state of your teeth. I bet your mouth area, palate is fucked.
You're not in the top tier of your age.

Be honest, what's your diet al those years ?
Did you care of your body ? Nope
What did you do when you saw your hair going to the drawn ? Nothing.

You can't change your personality. Maybe with drugs, but I have doubt.

If you go to the sea (or some other shithole), you'd be like all the other trash. There you could run private english teacher game if you're lucky.
You think you can luck out in Japan or South Korea ? More like Thailand, Vietnam or Philippines. And yet between a young white stud and your old ass, who will be more successful ?

Any women can have any men they want with their phones.
Why they would go for you when they can have a male model tier ?
Serious, tell us a good reason they'd take you ?
I'm not even talking about a prime one but more like the single mother type. Even her, she has more options.

Some men have all the fun, we are born to be doomed.
Let it go and spend quality time with your nana (nothing sexual obv).

 

[The End]

I'm in this exact same situation.

Go ahead and try to ascend. It's not like you have anything better to do, right?

Just don't get your hopes up.

(Or you can cut through the middle-man and become a r***ist)

 

[incel scum]

you are better off trying to fuck older single moms, divorced women, 40+ year old women than young whores

just dont actually get into LTRs with them

 

[bluecollarCEL]

Never gonna to happen.

You're 5'11, bald and OLD. If you were 6ft+ and nw1 you'd be still doomed but you'd have some hope to snatch a hateful ethnik.
And the makeup... forget it. If you don't have the original glow with no wrinkles you would have a small chance.
I don't know the state of your teeth. I bet your mouth area, palate is fucked.
You're not in the top tier of your age.

Be honest, what's your diet al those years ?
Did you care of your body ? Nope
What did you do when you saw your hair going to the drawn ? Nothing.

You can't change your personality. Maybe with drugs, but I have doubt.

If you go to the sea (or some other shithole), you'd be like all the other trash. There you could run private english teacher game if you're lucky.
You think you can luck out in Japan or South Korea ? More like Thailand, Vietnam or Philippines. And yet between a young white stud and your old ass, who will be more successful ?

Any women can have any men they want with their phones.
Why they would go for you when they can have a male model tier ?
Serious, tell us a good reason they'd take you ?
I'm not even talking about a prime one but more like the single mother type. Even her, she has more options.

Some men have all the fun, we are born to be doomed.
Let it go and spend quality time with your nana (nothing sexual obv).

Brutal bro, Brutal. Yeah my teeth are yellow thanks to coping with soda all these years. Body is shit thanks coping with fast food all these years. I never had a receding hairline just diffuse thinning so I noticed it too late. I figured I would give it one last attempt and if it doesn't work try SEA and then if that doesn't work LDAR with sex dolls.

you are better off trying to fuck older single moms, divorced women, 40+ year old women than young whores

just dont actually get into LTRs with them

I do jerk off to 50-60yo women on Match.com. I would certainly accept some blowjob action from a 60 year old. Probably even fuck em.

 

[Getlooksordie]

This is real stuff right here guys. In the past I have said i'm a 31yo virgin on this board but the truth is I am a 35yo Civilian Virgin. When I turned 30 I fucked a handful of Escorts. I haven't accomplished shit in the 17 years (2001) since graduating HS. I got a worthless History degree and have been working bullshit jobs such as Fast Food, Retail, Telemarketing, etc. My degree is fucking WORTHLESS. I have lived mostly with my grandmother but at points have lived with roommates. I know my grandmother is on her last legs and I need to make shit happen now.

At 35 I feel like I have let my life slip away and I finally have the motivation to make a change. I figure you only have one life so why not become the best you can be. So I have come up with 2 options for me. Option A and Option B.

Option A is since I am the average guy I can't become a famous Athlete/Musician/Actor and the most prestigious job for the average guy is to become a Surgeon. To become a Heart Surgeon it would take 16 years. So if I start now I will be 51 years old when I'm done and add on another 5 years for Student Loan Debt so perhaps 56yo when I finally break even. The ONLY reason why I want to do this, is to be honest, is to get PUSSY. I don't care about a stupid House/Car/Vacations I only want to become a Surgeon so I can attract women. Of course at 51 I would only be able to pull used up slut 40yo Single Mothers. Also I would have to basically just Work/School/Study for the next 16 years. No free time for any hobbies.

Option B is by far the better option and the one I will probably end up doing. I now understand Pussy Dynamics/Psychology of the Snatch. I am 35. I am a baldcel. But facially I can pass for 25 if I cover up the dark circles under my eyes with makeup. I'm a framecel so I don't look like an old man. I would become that badboy that all the women desire. I would load the fuck up on Roids, get some Tattoos, get a Motorcycle, and wear Boots/Lifts to go from 5'11 to 6'1. I will also get Earrings to complete the badboy persona. I figure I can do this transformation in about 1 year with Roids. I would live off of Student Loans and just looksmax all day long. I would basically Workout/Fuck Chicks/Ride Motorcycle and do marathon Videogame sessions with adderall+weed. I would eat shitty fast food also as I will be on the roids and don't care about a heart attack. I will DrugMAX also: Caffeine, Viagra, Kratom. Workout with caffeine, Fuck with viagra, Game with kratom+SODA.

IF I CAN do a 10 year run of fucking prime 18-22yo College Girls I can die a happy man. I am not afriad to die as I am a 35yo Civilian Virgin. I figure I am already fucking dead.

The goal is to get PUSSY, and prime age PUSSY.

If you guys have any other options such as IT/Engineering, etc. Let me know.

kek, get a load of this neckbeard. Ugly, old, broke and bald and thinks he´ll be slaying prime, stacy college pussy. This has to be a troll, no man could be this naive at 35 years old.

This is your league realistically and you will still have to compete hard for these kind of women (against younger better looking guys who make decent money):

 

[UBERCEL]

I support, LDAR is for pussies, us men will do everything up our sleeves, I suggest mewmaxxing and chewing gum 3 hrs a day. ITS POSSIBLE

 

[KilluminoidBR]

Option 2 seems completely out of reality.

 

[bluecollarCEL]

kek, get a load of this neckbeard. Ugly, old, broke and bald and thinks he´ll be slaying prime, stacy college pussy. This has to be a troll, no man could be this naive at 35 years old.

This is your league realistically and you will still have to compete hard for these kind of women (against younger better looking guys who make decent money):

Fuck. No trolling here. Just looking for advice. Its over when you guys think my reality is a troll.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

I support, LDAR is for pussies, us men will do everything up our sleeves, I suggest mewmaxxing and chewing gum 3 hrs a day. ITS POSSIBLE

It's possible? really? A 35 year old working some average job who's only ever had sex with escorts "SLAYING prime pussy"? You've gotta be joking. LDAR is one of the worst solutions because you're literally not doing anything to improve your situation but it's either that or this guy goes MGTOW as a cope (Which I can say from experience is a very satisfying cope)

 

[UBERCEL]

It's possible? really? A 35 year old working some average job who's only ever had sex with escorts "SLAYING prime pussy"? You've gotta be joking. LDAR is one of the worst solutions because you're literally not doing anything to improve your situation but it's either that or this guy goes MGTOW as a cope (Which I can say from experience is a very satisfying cope)

it's possible yes

 

[incel scum]

Brutal bro, Brutal. Yeah my teeth are yellow thanks to coping with soda all these years. Body is shit thanks coping with fast food all these years. I never had a receding hairline just diffuse thinning so I noticed it too late. I figured I would give it one last attempt and if it doesn't work try SEA and then if that doesn't work LDAR with sex dolls.


I do jerk off to 50-60yo women on Match.com. I would certainly accept some blowjob action from a 60 year old. Probably even fuck em.

I jack it to old bitches too. Here's my advice: bang some more hookers just to try to take away some awkwardness then go straight up and message every single old half-way decent looking foid on pof/okcupid/match within 50 miles. i guarantee at least a couple of them will fuck u lol.

 

[manch]

i call bs on this because theres no way that you can be this unintelligent about your situation at 35. if you are being serious, which i seriously doubt, you are full on retarded. literally you would gain iq points by bashing your head against the wall.

I have no idea how you have managed to cope and stay this delusional for so many years. you are truly an outstanding case of the bluepill. Look at your ugly ass useless being in the mirror, and in all honesty come back here and say youre going to be a slayer again. so completely stupid, its remarkable you havn't died due to your ignorance along the way to 35.

the best bet you have is careermaxxing and getting a bride from a shitty part of asia, who will stay with you for long enough to become a legal citizan of your country, then divorce you for chad. this is your only option.

Oh, and she will be fucking other dudes on tinder while she is waiting to be cleared off her green card.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

it's possible yes

Giga cope, this guy has a less than 0.1% chance at "SLAYING prime pussy" and with each passing moment he only gets older and his looks only decline further

literally you would gain iq points by bashing your head against the wall.

 

[UBERCEL]

Giga cope, this guy has a less than 0.1% chance at "SLAYING prime pussy" and with each passing moment he only gets older and his looks only decline further

Locationcelling would improve the chances, ALSO don't forget he will regret not doing this more than if he LDAR

 

[Mickeyonacid]

Locationcelling would improve the chances, ALSO don't forget he will regret not doing this more than if he LDAR

That's fair. I guess good advice for OP is just moving to asia TBH

 

[FiveFourManlet]

You can’t run bad boy game as an ugly man.

 

[bluecollarCEL]

Its like this. I have NOTHING to fucking lose. Why NOT make one FINAL attempt at trying to slay.

Read my shit. I am willing to Roid/Tattoos/Earrings/Motorcycle.

If it doesn't work out then it is what it is.

At 40 I can move to SEA and try that angle.

At 45 if SEA isn't working then I can LDAR until death.

I figure it like this. I blew the last 17 years being a lazy cunt. Why not just TRY to turn it around.

I've been LDARing for 17 fucking years guys. That's why its like I don't feel 35. I feel like i'm still 18. It is a consequence of the LDAR/NEET lifestyle. Time has frozen for me. Life has past me by.

 

[UBERCEL]

You can’t run bad boy game as an ugly man.

+

 

[Getlooksordie]

Its like this. I have NOTHING to fucking lose. Why NOT make one FINAL attempt at trying to slay.

Read my shit. I am willing to Roid/Tattoos/Earrings/Motorcycle.

If it doesn't work out then it is what it is.

At 40 I can move to SEA and try that angle.

At 45 if SEA isn't working then I can LDAR until death.

I figure it like this. I blew the last 17 years being a lazy cunt. Why not just TRY to turn it around.

I've been LDARing for 17 fucking years guys. That's why its like I don't feel 35. I feel like i'm still 18. It is a consequence of the LDAR/NEET lifestyle. Time has frozen for me. Life has past me by.

good luck. I´m actually doing the same right now at 29 years of age, just in a different way. I´m getting 20k+ worth of surgery on my face this year in hopes of ascending.

Just a tip: Roids, tattoos, earrings (lol) and a motorcycle won´t do jack shit though. It´s all about the face.

 

[Deleted member 4760]

See this guy:



The thai on the right is his wife...but of course, she's only with him for the green card..

I'd say thats how far you could possibly ascend to get a roastie...

 

[Incel Prime]

Just career max and become a sugar daddy to young chicks. Ya you gotta buy them shit and pay their bills but thats the only way you're getting prime pussy at this point. Unless you get late 20s poosie

 

[Deleted member 6470]

@Getlooksordie has better chance than you. Because he knows that a face is everything.
And he is not delusional.

Why did you ldar at first ?
Do you have a medical condition ?
Something else ?
"B-because your u-ugly ?"

In the early 2000s it was already over.
Chicks had already their social circles, cell phones to get local Chads.

You ldar on purpose.
Now it's too late.

 

[Deleted member 3385]

See this guy:



The thai on the right is his wife...but of course, she's only with him for the green card..

I'd say thats how far you could possibly ascend to get a roastie...

damn, dude has the body of a deflated bean bag

still, 48 and dating a 24 year old, even a the biggest chad in the west would have trouble pulling that with non-foreign girls