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News 28 year old man gets 25 years in prison for impregnating/raping 11 year old

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Holy fuck 25 years for 5 minutes of sex
 
why is this even posted jfl..
 
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You know...I'm generally anti-authoritarian...but guys like this make me think China's mobile death vans aren't such a bad idea.

In b4 "edgy"
 
I mean... 11yo is too young lol its not like 16yo
 
This is justified in my view. 11 years old is way too young.
 
Girls hit puberty at fucking 11? Good lord
 
11 yo nowdays, are already giga sluts, JFL if you guys believe in foids inocence, they get out the womb already thinking about chad cock
 
Just never have sex, bro
 
Saying this is ok is wrong.
Why are you raping a kid?
Not cool...
He doesn't deserve 25 years where he'll almost definitely die in general population, though.
 
lmaoo 25yrs if it was foid it would be like only 10 max JFL @ this gay world
 
This is justified in my view. 11 years old is way too young.
And he got her pregnant. I guess I'm not edgy enough but this guy fully had it coming. Lucky the father didnt murder him.
 
Billy Joe Smith??? Thats a hell of a basic name that I feel Ive heard hundreds of times before
 
I don't understand why rape is punished so hard tbh. Not saying that it's okay to do or anything, but people freqently get less time for murder.
 
Cucktears is definitely watching this thread...
Try not to say anything that upsets the thought police :feelsbaton:
 
I don't understand why rape is punished so hard tbh. Not saying that it's okay to do or anything, but people freqently get less time for murder.

Spinoza said, that the only way overcome a passion(emotion) of pleasure is to overpower it with even a stronger emotion of pain.

Thats is why the pain received from punishment has to exceed the pleasure received from following your desires.

For example your desire to murder the individual who has wronged you, has to be overpowered by the unproportionally larger fear of punishment that you would receive for committing this murder.


So the only way to correct a pattern of behavior in a society, is to dish out an disproportionally harsh punishment.

The severity to which you want to prevent a certain behavior from not happening, needs to have a more disproportional punishment associated with the crime.

So 5 minutes of pleasure in exchange for 25 years of pain, is an indicator of how undesired or forbidden this certain crime is.
 
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So your desire to murder someone who has wronged you has to be overpowered by the unproportionally larger fear of punishment that you would receive for committing this crime.
It's dumb because all it actually does is create more rape-murder cases. If the punishment for murder is the same as it is for rape, why not get rid of the main witness?
 
It's dumb because all it actually does is create more rape-murder cases. If the punishment for murder is the same as it is for rape, why not get rid of the main witness?

I've added to my previous post.


But you see, when you contemplate or WEIGH the benefit received with the potential punishment received, your brain subconsciously tells you its a bad deal, that it is in your best interest to forego this desire in order to avoid a disproportonal punishment.(your brain deals in probability curves of "reward exchanged for cost"when weighing the actions that you will take.

For example hypothetical scenario.

Let's say if I tracked a really decadent and vile " IncelTears" poster that constantly tries to dimish our power by engaging in psychological warfare aimed to extinguish our collextive spirit(no shortage of those).
If I chose to track this "diseased human being" down, and follow my biologicaligal evolutionary survival drives that are deeply encoded into my being(passions/emotions)...those passions being to inflict unimaginable violence onto my enemy.
My brain would have to weigh, whether the pleasure received from inflicting pain onto my enemy outweights the payment of punishment that I would have to give in exchange. If the pleasure received is far less then the price needed to pay for this pleasure through punishment, my brain will tell me its a bad deal(on a subconscious/concious level)


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Rape is exchanged for 25 years.
Murder is exchanged for a lifetime in prison.

In general any animal with an ounce of rationally would try to avoid those deals.. but not in every case, some people will gamble.
 
Where is the lifefuel tag?
11 is too fucking young.
 
Well, yeah.

Can't be doing that.
 
I've added to my previous post.


But you see, when you contemplate or WEIGH the benefit received with the potential punishment received, your brain subconsciously tells you its a bad deal, that it is in your best interest to forego this desire in order to avoid a disproportonal punishment.(your brain deals in probability curves of "reward exchanged for cost"when weighing the actions that you will take.

For example hypothetical scenario.

Let's say if I tracked a really decadent and vile " IncelTears" poster that constantly tries to dimish our power by engaging in psychological warfare aimed to extinguish our collextive spirit(no shortage of those).
If I chose to track this "diseased human being" down, and follow my biologicaligal evolutionary survival drives that are deeply encoded into my being(passions/emotions)...those passions being to inflict unimaginable violence onto my enemy.
My brain would have to weigh, whether the pleasure received from inflicting pain onto my enemy outweights the payment of punishment that I would have to give in exchange. If the pleasure received is far less then the price needed to pay for this pleasure through punishment, my brain will tell me its a bad deal(on a subconscious/concious level)


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Rape is exchanged for 25 years.
Murder is exchanged for a lifetime in prison.

Any animal with an ounce of nationally would try to avoid those deals, in GENERAL but not in every case, some people will gamble.
Not meaning to be rude or anything, but all of that is fairly obvious. What I'm talking about is how applying punishment that is too harsh for the crime leads to worse crimes being committed.
So let's say for example that rape is punished by a maximum prison sentence of, say, 5 years while murder can get you life. There'll be 100 rapes per 100,000 people, but only 1 of them ended with murder (since punisment for murder is much harsher, so it's not "worth it"). If you roughly equate the sentences for rape and murder, there'll be less rapes commited overall, but the ones that do happen will end with murder far more often, as the perpetrator has nothing to lose and a lot to gain (no living witness, easier to get away with).
 
It's dumb because all it actually does is create more rape-murder cases. If the punishment for murder is the same as it is for rape, why not get rid of the main witness?


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I think a fair punishment should be the sentence you serve is equivalent to how many years you could have waited to have sex with said "underaged female", so in a state where the age of consent is 18, if you have sex with a 15 year old, you serve 3 years. So in his case he should have gotten 7 years.

The punishment is really unjust, it just doesn't fit, variables should actually be assessed when deciding a sentencing, but it just seems like when it comes to sex crimes, they just slap criminal with random large sentences, could literally differ based on how the judge was feeling that day, for example the degree to which he "raped her".

Variables that should be assessed:
  1. Was she coerced or forcibly raped?
  2. Did intercourse include oral, vaginal, anal?
  3. Was there internal damage to organs or internal bleeding
  4. Was there vaginal/anal tearing?
  5. Was she impregnated? (this one was likely assessed)
Etc

To just slap 25 years on this doesn't make sense

At the same time the dude is a retard for getting her pregnant, though he probably thought she was too young to get pregnant.

TBH this is only a bad thing for him based on his mindset, if he already wanted to kill himself, but just wanted some loli pussy before he died, then this is a win for him, he'll just kill himself later when he arrives at prison, that's what I would do, in fact I would have died during the arrest attempt, I'd wrestle away a gun from an officer and then make the police kill me.
 
Not meaning to be rude or anything, but all of that is fairly obvious. What I'm talking about is how applying punishment that is too harsh for the crime leads to worse crimes being committed.
So let's say for example that rape is punished by a maximum prison sentence of, say, 5 years while murder can get you life. There'll be 100 rapes per 100,000 people, but only 1 of them ended with murder (since punishment for murder is much harsher, so it's not "worth it"). If you roughly equate the sentences for rape and murder, there'll be less rapes commited overall, but the ones that do happen will end with murder far more often, as the perpetrator has nothing to lose and a lot to gain (no living witness, easier to get away with).

Back in the day it was a life for an eye.
As society progressed and became more civilized it transitioned into an eye for eye.
Now we look at the " eye for an eye" as something barbaric....but, in fact, an eye for an eye was a HUGE step forward for human society.

In a primitive society, my personal punishment for the smallest injury to me would be to murder the individual in the most violent painful way imaginable, to prolong and magnify the suffering of my enemy as much as possible, and the reason why that is the case, that in order to insure myself from future harm, others would need to know that for the smallest injury to me, the price is their life, this would deter them from messing with me, and ensure me some safety and stability.

The language of life is the lie(get something for free without having the need to exchange it for something of equal value)
All life forms are driven by self-interest and fear.

Well we are the most successful survival machine on this planet... It's basically still the same old savage man living in the new modern world.

If you had the power to reach for your desires without any consequences... (Get something without paying)(favorable deal from the bioevolultary perspective)
You would rape, murder and pillage daily to satisfy your desires. This is the natural state of "man", an organism that cares about no one but him self. So murder, lies and rape are your natural default baselines for behavior.
When you consider something other than murder, you have already weighed consequences and deviated from your natural baseline response.

Currently the punishment for rape is not as harsh as it is for murder.
 
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@Tempus Edax Rerum this is what @mybodyisrotting is talking about:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ve-encouraged-the-hit-to-kill-phenomenon.html

It seems like a crazy urban legend: In China, drivers who have injured pedestrians will sometimes then try to kill them. And yet not only is it true, it’s fairly common; security cameras have regularly captured drivers driving back and forth on top of victims to make sure that they are dead. The Chinese language even has an adage for the phenomenon: “It is better to hit to kill than to hit and injure.”

“Double-hit cases” have been around for decades. I first heard of the “hit-to-kill” phenomenon in Taiwan in the mid-1990s when I was working there as an English teacher. A fellow teacher would drive us to classes. After one near-miss of a motorcyclist, he said, “If I hit someone, I’ll hit him again and make sure he’s dead.” Enjoying my shock, he explained that in Taiwan, if you cripple a man, you pay for the injured person’s care for a lifetime. But if you kill the person, you “only have to pay once, like a burial fee.” He insisted he was serious—and that this was common.

Most people agree that the hit-to-kill phenomenon stems at least in part from perverse laws on victim compensation. In China the compensation for killing a victim in a traffic accident is relatively small—amounts typically range from $30,000 to $50,000—and once payment is made, the matter is over. By contrast, paying for lifetime care for a disabled survivor can run into the millions. The Chinese press recently described how one disabled man received about $400,000 for the first 23 years of his care. Drivers who decide to hit-and-kill do so because killing is far more economical. Indeed, Zhao Xiao Cheng—the man caught on a security camera video driving over a grandmother five times—ended up paying only about $70,000 in compensation.

These drivers are willing to kill not only because it is cheaper, but also because they expect to escape murder charges. In the days before video cameras became widespread, it was rare to have evidence that a driver hit the victim twice. Even in today’s age of cellphone cameras, drivers seem confident that they can either bribe local officials or hire a lawyer to evade murder charges.

Perhaps the most horrific of these hit-to-kill cases are the ones in which the initial collision didn’t injure the victim seriously, and yet the driver came back and killed the victim anyway. In Sichuan province, an enormous, dirt-encrusted truck knocked down a 2-year-old boy. The toddler was only dazed by the initial blow, and immediately climbed to his feet. Eyewitnesses said that the boy went to fetch his umbrella, which had been thrown across the street by the impact, when the truck reversed and crushed him, this time killing him.

Despite the eyewitness testimony, the county chief of police declared that the truck had never reversed, never hit the boy a second time, and that the wheels never rolled over the child. Meanwhile, one outraged website posted photographs appearing to show the child’s body under the truck’s front wheel.

If it is cheaper to pay for someones funeral rather than their medical fees, then its more logical to kill them, especially if it increases your likelihood to silence a witness and control the narrative.

Same with rape, if rape is now equivalent too or worse than murder, then its more logical for someone to kill their rape victims and dispose of the bodies than to leave them alive.

So when law makers artificially inflate the punishment of rape to ridculous levels, equivalent to taking a life, then you've basically given positive reinforcement to taking a life, if I'm going to get a huge sentence anyways, I might as well double down on that gamble and murder if it will increase my chances of getting away with the crime.
 
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Back in the day it was a life for an eye.
As society progressed and became more civilized it transitioned into an eye for eye.
Now we look at the " eye for an eye" as something barbaric....but, in fact, an eye for an eye was a HUGE step forward for human society.

In a primitive society, my personal punishment for the smallest injury to me would be to murder the individual in the most violent painful way imaginable, to prolong and magnify the suffering of my enemy as much as possible, and the reason why that is the case, that in order to insure myself from future harm, others would need to know that for the smallest injury to me, the price is their life, this would deter them from messing with me, and ensure me some safety and stability.

The language of life is the lie(get something for free without having the need to exchange it for something of equal value)
All life forms are driven by self-interest and fear.

Well we are the most successful survival machine on this planet... It's basically still the same old savage man living in the new modern world.

If you had the power to reach for your desires without any consequences... (Get something without paying)(favorable deal from the bioevolultary perspective)
You would rape, murder and pillage daily to satisfy your desires. This is the natural state of "man", an organism that cares about no one but him self. So murder, lies and rape are your natural default baselines for behavior.
25 years for rape is basically a life for an eye. Also not sure why you're replying to me without even trying to argue with my point
 
damn, cant a nigga get some prime pussy in this country without getting locked up?
 
@Tempus Edax Rerum this is what @mybodyisrotting is talking about:


You are supposed to be detered from a crime at the very start, by how bad of a deal it is.

Well it falls under cost/reward analysis.


Well it's a further gamble..do I take guarteed 25 years of punishment for 5 minutes of pleasure...or do I kill the victim...erasing 25 years of guaranteed punishment, and gamble for, freedom vs life sentence.

The difference between 25 years and a lifetime isn't that great, especially when the reward is complete freedom.

But most people(and that's what is really needed and wanted...its the "most" people will be detered from committing the crime in the first place.)
 
But most people(and that's what is really needed and wanted...its the "most" people will be detected from committing the crime in the first place.)
With lower sentences for rape, there's 100 rapes per year, one of them ending with murder.
With rape sentences almost as high as murder there's 20 rapes per year, but now half of them end with the victim being killed.
What's better? 80 less rapes or 9 less murders? It's all hypothetical numbers pulled out of my as for the sake of argument, but I hope you get my point. In my opinion murder is incomparably worse than rape, that's why I'm arguing that the sentence is crazy in this case
 
damn, cant a nigga get some prime pussy in this country without getting locked up?
With lower sentences for rape, there's 100 rapes per year, one of them ending with murder.
With rape sentences almost as high as murder there's 20 rapes per year, but now half of them end with the victim being killed.
What's better? 80 less rapes or 9 less murders? It's all hypothetical numbers pulled out of my as for the sake of argument, but I hope you get my point. In my opinion murder is incomparably worse than rape, that's why I'm arguing that the sentence is crazy in this case

Crime is an effect of an unequal society, the greater the inequality the greater the crime rate.

A very unequal society produces a lot of crime...to prevent this crime you need to punish harshly.
In a more fair society there is less crime, and the crime that exists can be punished with lower severity.


I was talking about the cost/benefit mechanism present in the mammalian brain, the laws have need made around the exploitation of this system to produce the most desired outcome within the society.
 
Crime is an effect of an unequal society
This isn't true at all
I was talking about the cost/benefit mechanism present in the mammalian brain, the laws have need made around the exploitation of this system to produce the most desired outcome within the society.
I disagree with the assertion that "less rape, more murder" is a more desirable outcome than "more rape, less murder".
 
I bet IT are thinking of ways to cut out parts of this to make it look bad.
And it's published too, meaning the other prisoners are going to find out. If I was that guy I would have roped instead of going to prison.
 
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This isn't true at all

I disagree with the assertion that "less rape, more murder" is a more desirable outcome than "more rape, less murder".

This assertion has not been made.

The reason why rape is punished so harshly at this moment, is because of how unequal the sexual marketplace is, and this unequality produces an ever increasing number of individuals that cannot gain access to regular sex fairly, so feeling dissatisfied with the broken unfair system they seek sex unfairly.

Increased rape cases, murder cases, theft cases are the result of an unfair system...people are only willing to participate in a system that is somewhat fair, a system that allows them to gain what ever it is that they desire through work...as soon as the system becomes lopsided and you have a small minority of individuals claiming the majority of the goods, that in effect creates poverty for the majority...so people feeling used, beyrayed, and envious opt out of the system and no longer follow its rules...and revert to their natural state.. The one of the animal, the savage.
 
tfw not born 100 years ago.
94524
 
11 years old is a kid so that is fucked up.
 
11 years old is a kid so that is fucked up.
Depend on the foid there was one who was 5'10 at 11 years old in my school, hormones on food make things like that the guy probably tough she was older kek
 
Depend on the foid there was one who was 5'10 at 11 years old in my school, hormones on food make things like that the guy probably tough she was older kek
I see.
 
I bet my balls on the fact that this wasn't rape. I bet it was consentual. 25 years JFL. His life is over. 5 minutes of pleasure aren't worth this shit.
 
In Brazil you get lynched to death for something like that, especially in favelas. My friend just told me his cousin was killed because he also impregnated a 11 yo slut from his favela.
 
A bit too young IMO.
 

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