Discussion "18yo kids have no business dating"

[grondilu]

MGTOW Alpha Male Lifestyle said something I wanted to say to youngcels, but I couldn't quite phrase it well.

Epic Rant White Women

update

www.mgtow.tv

"Women have always been going out with guys who were much older than they are, because the older guys are established, these guys were smart enough to beat up T-rex, they were smart enough to gather food... The older a man survives, the more testimony to how good he is. But a 18yo kid ? You're nothing, dude. You are absolutely nothing. You 18yo kids out there, you have no business dating. Unless you're Chad and women come out to you naked, don't waste your time with women because you're setting yourself to a major disaster."

I'm sure this is going to be controversial, as many of us here are below 20. But I think there is a case to be made about it.

We all know it must be nice to be Chad and become sexually active as a teenager, but let's face it : the vast majority of men are not Chad. The only way for us to get a female is to bring something else than a tall body with perfect jawline and a big dick. This usually is a stable position in society : a home and a regular source of income. It's the betabuxx way, and it was supposed to be our destiny as non-Chad.

We can discuss how sad and unfair it is, but for the moment let's just admit it's a reality of life. If we admit it, then we have to discourage youncels to even worry about women. Just keep wanking if you have to, but meanwhile focus on studying or learning a craft so that you can get a job, leave your parents' home and become financially independent.

Once you do that, if it appears that you still can't get a female, then you can claim to be an incel, you can resign, become a NEET and shout "fuck society", but until then, you're just a whining young man.

This is just my opinion, I'm not absolutely sure this is the correct attitude to adopt, either from a rational point of view or a moral one. Feel free to discuss and change my mind.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Major cope lmao, id fuck hookers before agreeing to be a beta bux after entering my twenties a virgin

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

sounds like a cope tbh. if your goal in life is to "ascend" by getting starfish sex from a woman who doesn't care about you and just desires you for your resources then you might as well just buy a hooker

View: https://youtu.be/8pRUcrTxCfM

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Just a virtue signalling cuck that wants to increase childhood for men to 30. But for men only.

Foids are young adults at 18.

As far as I'm concerned it's all just a plot to slow male productivity down. If your seen as an irresponsible kid as a 23yo man, yet foids are having the best times of their lives in their 20's, then we do need a collapse.

 

[ionlycopenow]

sounds like a cope tbh. if your goal in life is to "ascend" by getting starfish sex from a woman who doesn't care about you and just desires you for your resources then you might as well just buy a hooker

View: https://youtu.be/8pRUcrTxCfM

Also reminder that dead bedroom marriages are the norm

 

[Ping And Pong]

We can discuss how sad and unfair it is, but for the moment let's just admit it's a reality of life. If we admit it, then we have to discourage youncels to even worry about women. Just keep wanking if you have to, but meanwhile focus on studying or learning a craft so that you can get a job, leave your parents' home and become financially independent.

Once you do that, if it appears that you still can't get a female, then you can claim to be an incel, you can resign, become a NEET and shout "fuck society", but before that, you're just a whining young man.

You make a fair point regarding whether its over for youngercels, I'm young (20) and STEMmaxxing at uni so for now I can't claim its truly over.

Still I can't ignore the fact that most my age have lost virginity/ made relationships while I've remained a khhv who has trouble making friends. I played roblox at home during my high school prom night ffs. (had no friends to go with)

 

[Cuyen]

they are getting pounded left and right by the age of 18

 

[grondilu]

Still I can't ignore the fact that most my age have lost virginity/ made relationships while I've remained a khhv who has trouble making friends. I played roblox at home during my high school prom night ffs. (had no friends to go with)

I know this is easier said than done, but stop comparing yourself to others. You're not a normie, accept it.

Now, you're probably struggling with your condition as a loner, but if you consider that such condition will plausibly only be temporary and will hopefully end once you gain financial independence, then you should be able to hang on. Again : easier said than done, I know. But what's your alternative ? Don't tell me it's the rope. You can rope anytime, but you have only one shot at getting a good education. You have to give it a try.

if your goal in life is to "ascend" by getting starfish sex from a woman who doesn't care about you and just desires you for your resources then you might as well just buy a hooker

It doesn't matter that much how enthusiastic the female is, this is Chad only and a bluepilled fantasy. I would be content with a decent access to prostitution, but that's the thing : even for that you need to be financially independent. Thus focusing on gaining financial independance is a useful strategy for at least two paths : betabuxxing and hookermaxxing.

 

[metabuxx]

JFL. Their Chad body count is already above 20 by the time they are 18.

 

[Caesercel]

Major cope lmao, id fuck hookers before agreeing to be a beta bux after entering my twenties a virgin

Wow. Exactly my thinking. If I were to ever betabuxx I would fuck every hooker in town first. Cuz that whore is sure not a virgin.

 

[Ping And Pong]

Now, you're probably struggling with your condition as a loner, but if you consider that such condition will plausibly only be temporary and will hopefully end once you gain financial independence, then you should be able to hang on. Again : easier said than done, I know. But what's your alternative ? Don't tell me it's the rope. You can rope anytime, but you have only one shot at getting a good education. You have to give it a try.

Seeing some legit advice on here is pretty refreshing tbh, at least if I end up an oldcel I won't have regrets.

 

[Caesercel]

MGTOW Alpha Male Lifestyle said something I wanted to say to youngcels, but I couldn't quite phrase it well.

Epic Rant White Women

update

www.mgtow.tv

"Women have always been going out with guys who were much older than they are, because the older guys are established, these guys were smart enough to beat up T-rex, they were smart enough to gather food... The older a man survives, the more testimony to how good he is. But a 18yo kid ? You're nothing, dude. You are absolutely nothing. You 18yo kids out there, you have no business dating. Unless you're Chad and women come out to you naked, don't waste your time with women because you're setting yourself to a major disaster."

I'm sure this is going to be controversial, as many of us here are below 20. But I think there is a case to be made about it.

We all know it must be nice to be Chad and become sexually active as a teenager, but let's face it : the vast majority of men are not Chad. The only way for us to get a female is to bring something else than a tall body with perfect jawline and a big dick. This usually is a stable position in society : a home and a regular source of income. It's the betabuxx way, and it was supposed to be our destiny as non-Chad.

We can discuss how sad and unfair it is, but for the moment let's just admit it's a reality of life. If we admit it, then we have to discourage youncels to even worry about women. Just keep wanking if you have to, but meanwhile focus on studying or learning a craft so that you can get a job, leave your parents' home and become financially independent.

Once you do that, if it appears that you still can't get a female, then you can claim to be an incel, you can resign, become a NEET and shout "fuck society", but until then, you're just a whining young man.

This is just my opinion, I'm not absolutely sure this is the correct attitude to adopt, either from a rational point of view or a moral one. Feel free to discuss and change my mind.

This is just stupid. If other guys as young as 18 are dating then there is no reason for you to not date. Betabuxx is not an incel specific thing. Normies and chads are gonna beta buxx as well. Saying that u should wait till you become someone b4 u eventually betabuxx while other guys get to both date as teens and adults is gigacope.

 

[grondilu]

Major cope lmao, id fuck hookers before agreeing to be a beta bux after entering my twenties a virgin

What money are you going to use if you're not financially independent ? You parents' ?

Beware of something : if you see hookers and you enjoy it, you're going to get "hooked". You're going to want to go again and again and if you don't have a steady income, you'll be in trouble.

That's why you really need to get your priorities straight and women, including whores, must come last.

 

[radishman]

Escorts can be addicting especially if it's your only female contact. Financially draining.

 

[Eschewcel]

It's the betabuxx way, and it was supposed to be our destiny as non-Chad.

I'm sorry but I can't cope with the fact that the woman I would marry had multiples affairs with chads only because of their looks. I don't want not to have sex on a daily basis because she thinks of chads and is disappointed with how I look.

I fucking hate this world man.
I couldn't even cope, even if I had a GF or anything that involves sex, because I would know that she gave herself for free for some handsome dude before me.

Fuck the blackpill, I would largely prefer to be a bluepilled soycuck from reddit and think that it's ok. No it's not.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

sorry my friend but that's giga cucked, betabux marriage to expired roast is a dreadful disaster. unless she finds you hot it's over

 

[RollD20]

Aka just betabuxx? I mean its already what is happening. Non-chads just get chads leftovers once he is done with them.

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

these guys were smart enough to beat up T-rex

NA education

 

[Eschewcel]

I am nevertheless contrasted by this statement. I think that even if women prefer the older ones, it is still possible as an extrovert high-tier normie.
18yo high-tier normie should just go for 14-15yo girls and fuck their tiny cunt theory.

 

[ionlycopenow]

What money are you going to use if you're not financially independent ? You parents' ?

Beware of something : if you see hookers and you enjoy it, you're going to get "hooked". You're going to want to go again and again and if you don't have a steady income, you'll be in trouble.

That's why you really need to get your priorities straight and women, including whores, must come last.

I am "financially independent".

Hookers still cosg less overall than betabux

 

[bigantennaemay1]

Once you do that, if it appears that you still can't get a female, then you can claim to be an incel, you can resign, become a NEET and shout "fuck society",

And at least you'll have established yourself so you can afford the best copes. They do help, even if they don't solve anything.

 

[Uglymuggly]

Just a virtue signalling cuck that wants to increase childhood for men to 30. But for men only.

Foids are young adults at 18.

As far as I'm concerned it's all just a plot to slow male productivity down. If your seen as an irresponsible kid as a 23yo man, yet foids are having the best times of their lives in their 20's, then we do need a collapse.

We do need a collapse

 

[78980n]

What you're advocating for fits exactly like a puzzle piece to feminism and helps it, women want a reserve of men they can choose from and fall back on if they need stability after passing through a phase of total hedonism.

If every male took this advice, right now, with nothing else changing in society, it would be a reserve of men for women, it would serve women to the detriment of men.

Only in the context of an already patriarchal society would betabuxxing for women actually make sense.

If you are worried about the state of men in general, and want to advance their intetests, advocating that men should put themselves in the betabuxx reserves in the context of a gynocentric society is wrong.

Look at it from the perspective of how to advance men's interests as a whole rather than advice on what an individual man should do and "alpha male" lifestyle self-help stuff.

 

[Bangkok or bust]

What you're advocating for fits exactly like a puzzle piece to feminism and helps it, women want a reserve of men they can choose from and fall back on if they need stability after passing through a phase of total hedonism.

If every male took this advice, right now, with nothing else changing in society, it would be a reserve of men for women, it would serve women to the detriment of men.

Only in the context of an already patriarchal society would betabuxxing for women actually make sense.

If you are worried about the state of men in general, and want to advance their intetests, advocating that men should put themselves in the betabuxx reserves in the context of a gynocentric society is wrong.

Look at it from the perspective of how to advance men's interests as a whole rather than advice on what an individual man should do and "alpha male" lifestyle self-help stuff.

 

[your personality]

Major cope lmao, id fuck hookers before agreeing to be a beta bux after entering my twenties a virgin

It kind of confuses me that a lot of people here think they would even have the chance to betabuxx. This isn't the 80s and even the 00s anymore.
Women are perfectly fine not marrying and never settling until they find chad.

sounds like a cope tbh. if your goal in life is to "ascend" by getting starfish sex from a woman who doesn't care about you and just desires you for your resources then you might as well just buy a hooker

View: https://youtu.be/8pRUcrTxCfM

The problem is hookers don't stay around as long as a gf or wife might during intimate sessions and they arent passionate.
You can get more variety and quality if you have enough money but the experience is short lived and more of a business arrangment than anything.
Will watch the video you linked soon tbh

What you're advocating for fits exactly like a puzzle piece to feminism and helps it, women want a reserve of men they can choose from and fall back on if they need stability after passing through a phase of total hedonism.

If every male took this advice, right now, with nothing else changing in society, it would be a reserve of men for women, it would serve women to the detriment of men.

Only in the context of an already patriarchal society would betabuxxing for women actually make sense.

If you are worried about the state of men in general, and want to advance their intetests, advocating that men should put themselves in the betabuxx reserves in the context of a gynocentric society is wrong.

Look at it from the perspective of how to advance men's interests as a whole rather than advice on what an individual man should do and "alpha male" lifestyle self-help stuff.

Especially as long as marriage laws continue to penalize men and have them on the hook for child support and alimony no matter what if such a situation arises.

But as for striking out against society and advancing low status male's interests by not putting yourself in the betabuxx reserve? That's also a cope. There's too many other guys that have no issue with how things are going and will take up the offer to betabuxx women anyway.
People here should still avoid marriage but not to make a statement or thinking you are advancing the interests of guys in the same situation as you. It's more because if people here get married it has an even higher chance of failing than for normies (which is already pretty high if you look at statistics) and them being screwed over legally, financially and emotionally and feeling forever cucked by a woman they were close to.

Unfortunately the only way a lot of people here would be able to get a chance at regular sex and intimacy is if they enter into a long term relationship with a woman where they'll be pressured to marry a woman because otherwise the woman will eventually break up with them if she doesn't get commitment of the marriage kind.
Marriage, child support and alimony laws have made the avenue that many men here would have had to have sex in the past a dangerous option.
That isn't likely to change at all although men's rights activists have tried for years and not been able to score any wins.

Short term no strings attached relationships where there is less sting from a woman breaking things off are more ideal but as people here know those kind of relationships are strictly chad only.

 

[Mainländer]

It's natural that men will be older than women in relationships, but I have nothing against 18 yo men dating.