Blackpill You're Not Incel Because Of Your Race.

[Bronzehawkattack]

No, being Asian or Curry alone do not make you "incel" you fucking copers. Stop hiding behind race as a deflection of what you are, and stop pointing the finger at those uglier than you as "fakecels" because you baselessly deem them to be more advantaged solely due to their race.

I've been told by some users here in the past that I shouldn't call certain users "fakecel" because they're ethnic, and therefore a "brother". JFL @ your IQ if you think that. The black pill, more than anything, is about looks, specifically face. If you're involuntarily (A part of incel that seems lost on some people) celibate, you're incel because of your face, with very few exceptions.

I'm tired of these dumb, faceless whitecel, currycel, ricecel, or blackcels pointing the finger at others whilst using race as a shield. You're not even using the race pill, just baseless accusations on race, not even intelligent discussion of stats or facts, just blindly pointing a finger anywhere you can. Your race will not override looks.

 

[Anger]

Weren't you ranting about being black yesterday?

 

[Zaetheus]

Weren't you ranting about being black yesterday?

 

[NEETAndTidy]

Weren't you ranting about being black yesterday?

Kek was just about to comment this

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Weren't you ranting about being black yesterday?

RACE is important stop COPING

 

[Zaetheus]

To be fair I seen posts where you complained about being black and want to be white I swear I seen u post it a couple times. Guess now u can take your own advice.

 

[Insalsa]

Cope

 

[Anger]

No seriously tho all your threads are about being a blackcel tbh

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

Weren't you ranting about being black yesterday?

Yeah I hate being Black, I hate being my race. It however is not what makes me incel, my face is. Anyone who says otherwise is pants on head retarded.

 

[Deleted member 2686]

bro racepill is a big part of the Blackpill, taking away the racepill from the blackpill is literally like splitting a blackpill in half

 

[Deleted member 12256]

Ok, i predict a race war in this thread......it took hours since the last one.
But tbh i agree with OP, race doesn't make you an incel. But they will fight and figh against this, for them only racepill exists.

 

[escortcelmax]

Weren't you ranting about being black yesterday?

Yeah I hate being Black, I hate being my race. It however is not what makes me incel, my face is. Anyone who says otherwise is pants on head retarded.

I love being black

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

bro racepill is a big part of the Blackpill, taking away the racepill from the blackpill is literally like splitting a blackpill in half

Except the people spouting the bullshit they are, pointing fingers like low IQ retards aren't race pilled.
I'm race pilled. I recognize the effects race plays on people in their daily lives. However it is not race pilled or black pilled to say that race is the sole cause for being incel. Idc if you're a good looking White, Black, Curry, or Rice, you're still not incel.

People seem to mistake this. As evidenced in this thread where people seem to think they have this "Gotcha!" because I bitch about my race. Being race pilled is not the same as being a retard who believes race is everything.

Again, to use the example above, where someone tried to say I can't criticize a user for being a fakecel because they're ethnic -- that's not the kind of thing the race pill informs you about, it doesn't say ethnics can't be fake, nor does it say all whites are necessarily "fake".

 

[TomathonClancy]

RACE is important stop COPING

I've had girls tell me they find me attractive but they're only into white dudes, and let's be honest, given how most women act they were probably lying about the former statement as well. Race matters a significant amount.

 

[Zaetheus]

I love being black

 

[mangoboy]

Weren't you once pushing the race pill though?

 

[OverIt]

I agree race isn't the only thing thay makes you incel but it is big part. there are features more common in certain races then in others that can contribute to your looks

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

Weren't you once pushing the race pill though?

You and everyone else in here need to actually read my post. The race pill is not the belief that race is everything.
The race pill is scientifically backed data and facts regarding race's role in dating, and even a bit further beyond.

I've had girls tell me they find me attractive

And this is what I mean by fakecel ethnics. Add TomathonClancy to the same pile that PrinceofCope, Tellem-T, and Blackletcel belong to.

 

[jerrycan dan]

Yeah I hate being Black, I hate being my race. It however is not what makes me incel, my face is. Anyone who says otherwise is pants on head retarded.

high IQ

 

[Deleted member 12256]

If we continue with the racepill and race threads every fucking day we will only create ''Us and Them''.
Race made nobody an incel, admit you are ''ugly'' or ''mental'' or stop calling yourself incels.

 

[TomathonClancy]

You and everyone else in here need to actually read my post. The race pill is not the belief that race is everything.
The race pill is scientifically backed data and facts regarding race's role in dating, and even a bit further beyond.


And this is what I mean by fakecel ethnics. Add TomathonClancy to the same pile that PrinceofCope, Tellem-T, and Blackletcel belong to.

I should clarify, their comments were provoked upon me asking them all the way baclk in high school. Women say this all the time, and they have since called me ugly numerous times and made fun of me for my looks. The same girl who called me "attractive" after asking her also made a photoshopped image of her friend, distorting his face to make it looks bloated and monstrous, and then saying it looked just like me, sharing it to all her friends. Do not call me a fakecel. I've suffered since middle school, and as ann adult there isn't a day where I don't want to kill myself because of my situation.

 

[escortcelmax]

You and everyone else in here need to actually read my post. The race pill is not the belief that race is everything.
The race pill is scientifically backed data and facts regarding race's role in dating, and even a bit further beyond.


And this is what I mean by fakecel ethnics. Add TomathonClancy to the same pile that PrinceofCope, Tellem-T, and Blackletcel belong to.

How can you be a fakecels if women find you attractive? Escorts tell me that all the time

 

[Zaetheus]

Yeah I hate being Black, I hate being my race. It however is not what makes me incel, my face is. Anyone who says otherwise is pants on head retarded.

Let’s be real you don’t hate being black, you hate being Ugly AND Black.
Had you been born a pretty boy nigga , you wouldn’t even know what an “incel” or “blackpill” is. You use being black to your advantage.

 

[Total Imbecile]

Race and face are strongly correlated because of how genetics works, this is why JBWASP is real. Blacks are the only race that defies this rule tho, not sure why or how tho

But still you are technically right OP, its not all race, still I forgive these people because when you are frustrated its probably easy to make the mistake of blaming everything on your race

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

This is just poor logic.

"Being short doesn't make you incel, look at Tom Cruise."
"Being ugly doesn't make you incel, look at Ron Perlman."
"Being ethnic doesn't make you incel, look at Bruce Lee."
"Being autistic doesn't make you incel, look at the comments about handsome autists on Youtube."
"Being poor doesn't make you incel, I know a jock Chad who has no money and gets laid constantly."

Can you not see the problem with this logic?

Agreed the race baiting goes too far sometimes, but that's just because the racepill is one of the newer and more controversial additions to the conventional blackpill. It's unavoidable. It will settle into equilibrium over time.

 

[TomathonClancy]

Let’s be real you don’t hate being black, you hate being Ugly AND Black.
Had you been born a pretty boy nigga , you wouldn’t even know what an “incel” or “blackpill” is. You use being black to your advantage.
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Blacks don't even qualify as ethnics anymore if you're abouve 5'10 and have a good frame. Being ethnic is only debilitating to Indians, Asians, Arabs, and indigenous Latinos.

 

[tehgymcel420]

The racepill destroyed me, I absolutely hate being a sand nigger.

 

[TomathonClancy]

I usually don't get that worked up here, but this thread is trying to root out a massive over-generalization when it's instead creating another one. Race plays a substantial role in general perception.

1) Race determines basic facial features that people find attractive. Obviously symmetry can be attainable by everyone, but features such as a narrow nose, smaller lips, tucked-in eyes (to help create a warrior-eyes look), raised cheekbones, and a profile-view in which the nose and chin tips are parallel with one-another are features usually exclusively held by whites. Blacks, Arabs, and Indians have on average larger lips and rounder noses, as well as a more homogenous profile view where there lips are in parallel with their nose and chin, and Asians also have a flatter face compared to whites. Whites overall benefit from better forward growth.

2) Whites and blacks are taller on average, though this does vary a bit more than face, so it's a point to be argued.

3) Most cultures value lighter pigmentation over darker ones. Take any Asian country, China, Japan, South Korea, India, when you look at the men and women advertised, they're always of the same glass-white skin tone, even if it doesn't represent their race in general. There is a clear global fetishization of white skin.

You can't just pick outliers saying "look he's an Asian guy and has a gf". Outliers exist in all shapes and forms, regardless of the characteristic. What's important here is that you're ignoring how much race plays into our status, just as face or height.

Here's an image taken from a video by @FACEandLMS illustrating some of my points better

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

JFL, I remember when this absolute mogger tried to tell me "Bro, i'm totally not a fakecel, aren't you racepilled, i'm Black!"

Such dumb misconceptions of what the racepill is, is what led to this retardation i'm constantly seeing from gl ethnics nowadays. That's the problem with pushing for any ideology, eventually the wrong people get ahold of it and strip it of any of the nuance it had originally maintained.

Let’s be real you don’t hate being black, you hate being Ugly AND Black.
Had you been born a pretty boy nigga , you wouldn’t even know what an “incel” or “blackpill” is. You use being black to your advantage.
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Me hating being Black moreso has to do with the negative stereotypes of my race that would affect me regardless of if I were incel or not. Even if I could magically become a 7/10 Black guy, i'd still feel a lot of isolation in western society, i'd still feel "abnormal" as opposed to White which is the norm. I'd always have certain expectations pushed onto me that I would be shunned if I chose not to fit them, called an uncle tom and told i'm "acting white".

That's what people are misunderstanding about my bitching about being Black. It's not as though I wrote two entire detailed posts about this or anything. (That people are referring to in this thread but still somehow missing the point)

Again, it's stripping nuance for ideas that were written with nuance in mind.

Blacks don't even qualify as ethnics anymore if you're abouve 5'10 and have a good frame. Being ethnic is only debilitating to Indians, Asians, Arabs, and indigenous Latinos.

This is literally not the race pill, and it's annoying that users like you "champion" the "racepill" when the ideas you spout aren't backed by the race pill.
Like I said earlier, the race pill is race's proven effect on dating and relationships, and even a further bit beyond. It's not the vehicle for you to peddle baseless theories and opinions, keep those to yourself because they're worthless.

This thread in part is me setting the record straight on the race pill. As evidenced by the comments in this thread saying "B-b-but how you can disagree with retards like @TomathonClancy, I thought you were race pilled!?!?" when ideas low IQ users like you peddle have nothing to do with the facts and stats I support and push from actually smart and nuanced users like @13k.

This is just poor logic.

"Being short doesn't make you incel, look at Tom Cruise."
"Being ugly doesn't make you incel, look at Ron Perlman."
"Being ethnic doesn't make you incel, look at Bruce Lee."
"Being autistic doesn't make you incel, look at the comments about handsome autists on Youtube."
"Being poor doesn't make you incel, I know a jock Chad who has no money and gets laid constantly."

Can you not see the problem with this logic?

Agreed the race baiting goes too far sometimes, but that's just because the racepill is one of the newer and more controversial additions to the conventional blackpill. It's unavoidable. It will settle into equilibrium over time.

Not what I said. I didn't say "Being ethnic doesn't make you incel, look at Bruce Lee", this post isn't a condemnation of the race pill, it's a criticism of those who seem to think Race is the main factor of inceldom rather than anything more than an ingredient in it.

 

[Life Wasted]

Race matters, being a deathnik automatically drops you down by at least 3 points. No deathnik can ever surpass 7/10, that is the highest they can ever hope to get to.

 

[TomathonClancy]

JFL, I remember when this absolute mogger tried to tell me "Bro, i'm totally not a fakecel, aren't you racepilled, i'm Black!"

Such dumb misconceptions of what the racepill is, is what led to this retardation i'm constantly seeing from gl ethnics nowadays. That's the problem with pushing for any ideology, eventually the wrong people get ahold of it and strip it of any of the nuance it had originally maintained.


Me hating being Black moreso has to do with the negative stereotypes of my race that would affect me regardless of if I were incel or not. Even if I could magically become a 7/10 Black guy, i'd still feel a lot of isolation in western society, i'd still feel "abnormal" as opposed to White which is the norm. I'd always have certain expectations pushed onto me that I would be shunned if I chose not to fit them, called an uncle tom and told i'm "acting white".

That's what people are misunderstanding about my bitching about being Black. It's not as though I wrote two entire detailed posts about this or anything. (That people are referring to in this thread but still somehow missing the point)

Again, it's stripping nuance for ideas that were written with nuance in mind.


This is literally not the race pill, and it's annoying that users like you "champion" the "racepill" when the ideas you spout aren't backed by the race pill.
Like I said earlier, the race pill is race's proven effect on dating and relationships, and even a further bit beyond. It's not the vehicle for you to peddle baseless theories and opinions, keep those to yourself because they're worthless.

This thread in part is me setting the record straight on the race pill. As evidenced by the comments in this thread saying "B-b-but how you can disagree with retards like @TomathonClancy, I thought you were race pilled!?!?" when ideas low IQ users like you peddle have nothing to do with the facts and stats I support and push from actually smart and nuanced users like @13k.


Not what I said. I didn't say "Being ethnic doesn't make you incel, look at Bruce Lee", this post isn't a condemnation of the race pill, it's a criticism of those who seem to think Race is the main factor of inceldom rather than anything more than an ingredient in it.

It's just objectively false to say that race doesn't play a role in attractiveness when it comes to men. As I've said before, there are structural differences between races that can alter how we're percieved by women, and ignoring that is ignorant. You bring up the photo of Tellem-T, and while I do admit his frame is pretty good, you can see why he was complaining in the first place. You look at his profile, and it's much rounder than that of his average white counterpart, with his lips portruding further than the tip of his nose and his chin (that being said I do admit Tellem's a good-looking guy, but I'm not a women so my opinion doesn't hold much value there).

We're literally telling you why racepill is a real thing, and you're just calling people fakecels and retards for disagreeing with you. I've long since abandoned the notion that whites can't be incels, as I agree that's ludicrous. But I cannot fathom why you can't see why the racepill doesn't exist.

The race of someone embeds them with certain aesthetic qualities that are generally deemed unattractive to women, and that's the crux of why it holds so much value.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Not what I said. I didn't say "Being ethnic doesn't make you incel, look at Bruce Lee", this post isn't a condemnation of the race pill, it's a criticism of those who seem to think Race is the main factor of inceldom rather than anything more than an ingredient in it.

That's fair. But it's undeniably a big ingredient when >30% of ethnic men are celibate and you have to earn $247,000 extra as an Asian man to be considered equal to a white man.

 

[Existentialcel]

No, being Asian or Curry alone do not make you "incel" you fucking copers. Stop hiding behind race as a deflection of what you are, and stop pointing the finger at those uglier than you as "fakecels" because you baselessly deem them to be more advantaged solely due to their race.

I've been told by some users here in the past that I shouldn't call certain users "fakecel" because they're ethnic, and therefore a "brother". JFL @ your IQ if you think that. The black pill, more than anything, is about looks, specifically face. If you're involuntarily (A part of incel that seems lost on some people) celibate, you're incel because of your face, with very few exceptions.

I'm tired of these dumb, faceless whitecel, currycel, ricecel, or blackcels pointing the finger at others whilst using race as a shield. You're not even using the race pill, just baseless accusations on race, not even intelligent discussion of stats or facts, just blindly pointing a finger anywhere you can. Your race will not override looks.

Race is important, but face overrides race. There’s attractive people across the entire spectrum. I agree OP

 

[armis]

That bitch wants some BBC

 

[Baarta]

You're incel because women are ALWAYS looking at you in terms of what you can do for them or how you can make them feel, and unfortunately you can't do a damn thing for these femoids thus why they hate your guts and look down on you, race doesn't mean shit despite what people on here try to push.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

That's fair. But it's undeniably a big ingredient when >30% of ethnics are celibate and you have to earn $247,000 extra as an Asian man to be considered equal to a white man.

No doubt it's a factor, but the problem is when you exaggerate how big of a factor it is to the point of defending people who are gl.
You people seem to keep thinking i'm saying race doesn't matter, i'm literally one of the guys constantly pushing the race pill, I know full well how much race matters, i've read so much of the studies on this and posted my own takes on the race pill. What i'm saying is that what some of these guys are preaching as the "race pill" isn't actually the race pill.

It's just objectively false to say that race doesn't play a role in attractiveness when it comes to men. As I've said before, there are structural differences between races that can alter how we're percieved by women, and ignoring that is ignorant. You bring up the photo of Tellem-T, and while I do admit his frame is pretty good, you can see why he was complaining in the first place. You look at his profile, and it's much rounder than that of his average white counterpart, with his lips portruding further than the tip of his nose and his chin (that being said I do admit Tellem's a good-looking guy, but I'm not a women so my opinion doesn't hold much value there).

We're literally telling you why racepill is a real thing, and you're just calling people fakecels and retards for disagreeing with you. I've long since abandoned the notion that whites can't be incels, as I agree that's ludicrous. But I cannot fathom why you can't see why the racepill doesn't exist.

The race of someone embeds them with certain aesthetic qualities that are generally deemed unattractive to women, and that's the crux of why it holds so much value.

And case in point someone implying that i'm saying race doesn't play a role in attractiveness.

Weren't you just saying Blacks can't be incel? Now you're defending Tellem-T despite him being Black. Lmao. Seems like you already recognized the flaw in the dumb shit you were spouting earlier, and why what you were saying wasn't the race pill.

Are you even reading my posts, i'm not saying the racepill doesn't exist. I agree with the idea that race plays a large factor on whether or not you have facial features that are attractive. Again, like I said a million times, i'm race pilled, my problem is with your particular race baiting that believes ethnics no matter how good looking they are, are more truecel than whites or blacks (Despite blacks being also ethnic??? Another flaw in your own stupid racebaiting).

Once again, i'm making the case that there's a difference between racebaiting and racepilling. You, along with others like @Total Imbecile or @Unwanted do the former but try and pass it off as the latter.

 

[Of Manlets and Men]

I agree that race matters, but not as much as the race warriors think it does. I'm a hapa and I know that hurts my SMV, but I'd rather be a 6'2" hapa than a 5'7" white.

Maybe if there was less Just Be (insert race here), there would be less of people going to the other extreme and claiming that race doesn't matter at all.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

JFL, I remember when this absolute mogger tried to tell me "Bro, i'm totally not a fakecel, aren't you racepilled, i'm Black!"

Such dumb misconceptions of what the racepill is, is what led to this retardation i'm constantly seeing from gl ethnics nowadays. That's the problem with pushing for any ideology, eventually the wrong people get ahold of it and strip it of any of the nuance it had originally maintained.
.

I actually agree with you on this. I was thoroughly pissed off when I first saw Tellem T and realized he was a monster BBC with sharp cheekbones and a square jawline. I mean wtf?

Absolutely being that tall + good looking and claiming you are "incel" due to your race is insane.

The race pill can more be thought of as a game of percentages based on the graph in my signature.

• To get laid as a black/white, you must be in the top 86-87% of your race.
• To get laid as an ethnic, you must be in the top 69% of your race.

That's basically it. All your other factors will determine if you make those cut points or not.

 

[TomathonClancy]

No doubt it's a factor, but the problem is when you exaggerate how big of a factor it is to the point of defending people who are gl.
You people seem to keep thinking i'm saying race doesn't matter, i'm literally one of the guys constantly pushing the race pill, I know full well how much race matters, i've read so much of the studies on this and posted my own takes on the race pill. What i'm saying is that what some of these guys are preaching as the "race pill" isn't actually the race pill.


And case in point someone implying that i'm saying race doesn't play a role in attractiveness.

Weren't you just saying Blacks can't be incel? Now you're defending Tellem-T despite him being Black. Lmao. Seems like you already recognized the flaw in the dumb shit you were spouting earlier, and why what you were saying wasn't the race pill.

Are you even reading my posts, i'm not saying the racepill doesn't exist. I agree with the idea that race plays a large factor on whether or not you have facial features that are attractive. Again, like I said a million times, i'm race pilled, my problem is with your particular race baiting that believes ethnics no matter how good looking they are, are more truecel than whites or blacks (Despite blacks being also ethnic??? Another flaw in your own stupid racebaiting).

Once again, i'm making the case that there's a difference between racebaiting and racepilling. You, along with others like @Total Imbecile or @Unwanted do the former but try and pass it off as the latter.

I didn't say all blacks qualify as non-ethnics, I specifically mentioned those above 5'10 and with a good frame. Apologies if you thought I was generalizing to all blacks as that wasn't my intention, and to be honest, the way media personifies these types of black men could have easily skewed my view on them. I admit I'm speaking anecdotally, but these types of men tend to garner women on a level equal to that of their white counterparts, but seeing as you are a blackcel I'd love for you to provide an alternative explanation.

Through the end of writing my post, I did recall that nowhere did you deny the existence of the racepill, and for that I'll apologize. However, just as you say, my point was to stress the overall importance of race. I put it up their with face and height, and maybe you don't, but we can agree to disagree.

I think you're painting a picture of me that's heavily based off of my earlier posts in this site. When I was new here, I thought that whites of all types mogged ethnics, regardless of looks, but now see that it's more of a generality that something that's absolute. I know I was a very extreme racepiller, but I rarely if ever bring up racepill threads, and if I do it's based on anecdotal, not general information. If my past behavior offend you, then again I do apologize. I don't intend to stir up drama or controversy, that wasn't my intention.

 

[Hunter]

low IQ. countless statistics prove race is extremely crucial. the second most important factor behind face. go see 13ks threads.

 

[Unwanted]

"Ethnicel" shouldn't even be a thing. Your ethnicity has nothing to do with your inceldom.

Most "ethnicels" on this forum are short balding oldcels as well. It baffles me how when they list their problems they put ethnicity on the first place lmfao.

 

[tehgymcel420]

"Ethnicel" shouldn't even be a thing. Your ethnicity has nothing to do with your inceldom.

 

[TomathonClancy]

"Ethnicel" shouldn't even be a thing. Your ethnicity has nothing to do with your inceldom.

Most "ethnicels" on this forum are short balding oldcels as well. It baffles me how when they list their problems they put ethnicity on the first place lmfao.

Like I've said, I've met girls who straight up have told me they put Asians and Indians on a lower scale than whites. People don't understand the staggering number of women who will reject you due to your race or the phenotypes associated with it. I've had my chadlite Indian friend be called ugly multiple times, even though he is one of the most attractive people we know.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

To get laid as a black/white, you must be in the top 86-87% of your race.

This is misguided and doesn't take into account the other of many, many studies posted on here regarding race, you're going off of one celibacy chart, but correlation =/= causation. Because White/Black celibacy rates are lower by a certain % it doesn't automatically mean it is easier to be Black/White.

Take any of the follows stats for example;

These charts would support the idea that it is easier to get laid when White (Which is what the race pill says, though it does not say that Whites CANNOT be incel), those charts however directly conflict with the idea that it is easier to get laid when Black. Desirability =/= Celibacy.

I didn't say all blacks qualify as non-ethnics, I specifically mentioned those above 5'10 and with a good frame. Apologies if you thought I was generalizing to all blacks as that wasn't my intention, and to be honest, the way media personifies these types of black men could have easily skewed my view on them. I admit I'm speaking anecdotally, but these types of men tend to garner women on a level equal to that of their white counterparts, but seeing as you are a blackcel I'd love for you to provide an alternative explanation.

Through the end of writing my post, I did recall that nowhere did you deny the existence of the racepill, and for that I'll apologize. However, just as you say, my point was to stress the overall importance of race. I put it up their with face and height, and maybe you don't, but we can agree to disagree.

I think you're painting a picture of me that's heavily based off of my earlier posts in this site. When I was new here, I thought that whites of all types mogged ethnics, regardless of looks, but now see that it's more of a generality that something that's absolute. I know I was a very extreme racepiller, but I rarely if ever bring up racepill threads, and if I do it's based on anecdotal, not general information. If my past behavior offend you, then again I do apologize. I don't intend to stir up drama or controversy, that wasn't my intention.

Race in my opinion is above height, my only problem comes when people try to argue it's anywhere close to face. Like the example I gave earlier with Tellem-T. Face will always be a million times more important than anything else, that's the black pill at its most basic essence.

In regards to how being Black plays a role in inceldom, I think too many users here buy into the mainstream media perception of being Black as being so strong as to override a lot of ugly features on a Black man. I think all the media perception of Black shas on dating whilst Black, is that it makes it more acceptable for Blacks to act thuggish and low-inhib, the inverse effect on that though is that it also discourages Blacks from acting any other way, and your SMV will decline if you don't play to those stereotypes.

That's just my theory anyways. Officially statistics don't back up this distinction i'm seeing lately that Blacks supposedly aren't ethnic. I've seen the celibacy stats cited multiple times, but i've already explained why that particular correlation =/= causation. If most Curries and Asians were poor and trended far more towards desiring their own race, their celibacy rates would probably be that low too.

low IQ. countless statistics prove race is extremely crucial. the second most important factor behind face. go see 13ks threads.

Low IQ, you literally didn't read any of my posts.

 

[Unwanted]

Like I've said, I've met girls who straight up have told me they put Asians and Indians on a lower scale than whites. People don't understand the staggering number of women who will reject you due to your race or the phenotypes associated with it. I've had my chadlite Indian friend be called ugly multiple times, even though he is one of the most attractive people we know.

Ricecels and currycels are legit. By ethnicel I mostly meant middle eastern/arab looking.

 

[TomathonClancy]

This is misguided and doesn't take into account the other of many, many studies posted on here regarding race, you're going off of one celibacy chart, but correlation =/= causation. Because White/Black celibacy rates are lower by a certain % it doesn't automatically mean it is easier to be Black/White.

Take any of the follows stats for example;

These charts would support the idea that it is easier to get laid when White (Which is what the race pill says, though it does not say that Whites CANNOT be incel), those charts however directly conflict with the idea that it is easier to get laid when Black. Desirability =/= Celibacy.


Race in my opinion is above height, my only problem comes when people try to argue it's anywhere close to face. Like the example I gave earlier with Tellem-T. Face will always be a million times more important than anything else, that's the black pill at its most basic essence.

In regards to how being Black plays a role in inceldom, I think too many users here buy into the mainstream media perception of being Black as being so strong as to override a lot of ugly features on a Black man. I think all the media perception of Black shas on dating whilst Black, is that it makes it more acceptable for Blacks to act thuggish and low-inhib, the inverse effect on that though is that it also discourages Blacks from acting any other way, and your SMV will decline if you don't play to those stereotypes.

That's just my theory anyways. Officially statistics don't back up this distinction i'm seeing lately that Blacks supposedly aren't ethnic. I've seen the celibacy stats cited multiple times, but i've already explained why that particular correlation =/= causation. If most Curries and Asians were poor and trended far more towards desiring their own race, their celibacy rates would probably be that low too.


Low IQ, you literally didn't read any of my posts.

I can understand your points on blacks, and I actually do understand and agree with them. I really do think my perception of them being viewed as "alpha or Chadlike" might have come from media perception, and I feel bad for falling into them.

The one thing I would like to say is that the reason that race would be close to face is that race does play a huge role in facial structure and composition, with whites having more desirable forward-growth esque traits. I say this as an Indian man who has suffered from many of the negative phenotypes of my race in terms of my face, and I do genuinely believe that if I had white phenotypes my situation would be quite a bit better.

 

[tehgymcel420]

Ricecels and currycels are legit. By ethnicel I mostly meant middle eastern/arab looking.

 

[acnescarcel]

Weren't you ranting about being black yesterday?

 

[TomathonClancy]

Ricecels and currycels are legit. By ethnicel I mostly meant middle eastern/arab looking.

You might be confusing Middle Eastern or Arab with Persian, which is something I used to do. Persian males are by far one of the most attractive types of man I've seen but pure Arabs around the peninsula and the Horn of Africa do struggle with quite a few features that other races like Indians do such as rounder and larger noses, less forward growth, and coarser hair (this can be remedied through stuff like blowouts, I've heard). I know quite a few Arabs, and they do look much different than persian or israeli males, who look very similar to normal European whites.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

I can understand your points on blacks, and I actually do understand and agree with them. I really do think my perception of them being viewed as "alpha or Chadlike" might have come from media perception, and I feel bad for falling into them.

The one thing I would like to say is that the reason that race would be close to face is that race does play a huge role in facial structure and composition, with whites having more desirable forward-growth esque traits. I say this as an Indian man who has suffered from many of the negative phenotypes of my race in terms of my face, and I do genuinely believe that if I had white phenotypes my situation would be quite a bit better.

When I say race isn't close to face, i'm not including race based facial traits as apart of "Race", i'm including solely the effect being that ethnicity has on your dating prospects.

An Indian man doesn't necessarily have an Indian phenotype nor does he necessarily share all the Indian facial traits that his countrymen would have.

This darkskin curry for example is Indian, but he has a godly face with a white phenotype and white facial features. That's why race is separate alltogether, because although he can be rejected solely for being a shitskin, that still wouldn't make him incel with a face like that.