Would you consider both of these made up guys to be fakecels in these scenarios?

[Clavicus Vile]

Guy 1: He goes to therapy and talks about being ugly and short, and the impact of being ugly and short as a male. This guy has a female therapist, she complimented two of his facial features and she says he’s not ugly etc.

Guy 2: He got messaged randomly by a 30 year old blonde currently married milf with a child, they both face reveal to each other after they talk for some days. The milf calls this guy very handsome and hot.

 

[PersonalityChad]

Guy 1 isn't a fakecel, Guy 2 is

 

[weaselbomber]

who would ever pick guy 1

 

[Grodd]

Guy 1 isn't a fakecel, Guy 2 is

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Neither are enough to be fakecel. 2 is more likely to not be one, but holes lie for attention.

 

[SupremeAutist]

Guy 1 isn't a fakecel, Guy 2 is

Guy 1 sounds like he's being virtue signaled to. I agree

 

[Cryotron]

2nd is definitely not incel, even 30+ woman have standards when they want man just for sex so no 30+ woman would message random sub5

 

[Mecoja]

First one is most likely getting gaslighted, second is a giga fakecel.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

The second one might just be trying to get him to kill her husband for her. If that is you, don't do it! And if you do, at least get her to fuck you before and not after.

 

[FreeCipher]

second guy is a total fakecel, no woman typically gambles her marriage for an ugly guy. When a woman cheats on her first choice (husband) it's usually with a better option. women cheat up that's why it hurts more because when they cheat it tells the original first choice (He is better than you).

 

[Levi Shekelstein]

Guy 1 isn't a fakecel, Guy 2 is