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Serious Why would a man do ANY effort to get in a relationship in 2020?

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You put everything on the table. You invest your time and money into it and what is she offering ? You make a fool of yourself trying to get her attention and waste so much time.
For pussy? U have escorts, way cheaper.
She acts cocky and superior and laughs in your face, ffs.
In 2020 if men want pussy should go straight to an escort and not consider anything else.
Foids should be chasing the men ffs, it's the men who provide while they do nothing.
 
Imagine spending decades of your life studyceling and then wageslaving just to get an old used up unloving roastie in the end
 
Imagine spending decades of your life studyceling and then wageslaving just to get an old used up unloving roastie in the end
I bet the escortcelling conversations are better than what you could pull off if u beta buxx
 
For companionship, I dont think I be happy spending the rest of my life alone without the experience of fatherhood, while most around me will be successful fathers.
Even ER said whats the point of a beautiful environment when you have to spend it all alone.
 
if you need to put effort for girls its over
 
I bet the escortcelling conversations are better than what you could pull off if u beta buxx

Based. But fags here would be like " But, but..... youre paying a foid. That is so cucked" while they jerk off to porn (which is basically some other guy fkin foids)
 
if you need to put effort for girls its over
That's what im saying. Effort for what? You could get the same thing way cheaper and effortless by making a visit to an escort
Based. But fags here would be like " But, but..... youre paying a foid. That is so cucked" while they jerk off to porn (which is basically some other guy fkin foids)
Yes. I'm not saying go to escorts, but better to do that than offer all you have to an foid who complains that ur not 6 ft
 
For companionship, I dont think I be happy spending the rest of my life alone without the experience of fatherhood, while most around me will be successful fathers.
Even ER said whats the point of a beautiful environment when you have to spend it all alone.

Thinking about being a 32 KHHV is potent CHofuel. (in minecraft). If i end going without kids, ill be sure to pay soyciety pay (in minecraft)
Yes. I'm not saying go to escorts, but better to do that than offer all you have to an foid who complains that ur not 6 ft

Exactly. Its selecting the lesser of two evils.
 
That's what im saying. Effort for what? You could get the same thing way cheaper and effortless by making a visit to an escort
unless she wants you, its wasted time
i dont know how normies and incels in denial still pursue women in 2020
 
Because it’s part of your biology to seek out a mate. That’s literally the biological end goal of your life.
 
I also wonder this. I am only really interested in causal sex. I would still not pay for sex though.
 
You put everything on the table.
You invest your time and money into it and what is she offering ?
You make a fool of yourself trying to get her attention and waste so much time.
For pussy? U have escorts, way cheaper.
If you simply resolve to spend much less on these attempts than escorts cost: problem solved.

Basically only invest time/money into stuff that serves the dual purpose of bettering your life so that it's worth the while even if it doesn't land you foid attention.

Example: getting fit, owning a vehicle, living alone, keeping clean, learning to cook/garden, getting decent clothes

All of these have benefits by themself even if a girl doesn't appreciate you for them so you didn't waste any time.

If you pursue them and it doesn't lead to romance it won't bother you as much as if you spent all the money buying free meals/movies/limos for girls who deigned to go on a date with you but who forever snub physical contact because of a lack of attraction.

OP what sort of efforts have you taken? How many of us complaining about efforts have actually wasted them? Or are we mostly just responding to simping we see from other guys we're confident are being cucked?

Imagine spending decades of your life studyceling and then wageslaving just to get an old used up unloving roastie in the end
This is an example of something with potentially it's own benefit: you could use the money earned on other stuff. Having wealth and the wealth attracting a foid doesn't mean you need to actually choose to share it with her.

TBH sharing your wealth with a less wealthy foid more often than not will probably make her respect you less and cheat on you more.

But if you don't share she might just rob you so you're fucked either way if she finds out you're wealthy.

The trick is: earn wealth to build confidence but act poor so foids who think you're ugly won't date you for your wealth.

But, but..... youre paying a foid. That is so cucked" while they jerk off to porn (which is basically some other guy fkin foids)
As long as you're not actually financially supporting the porn unbeknownst to you then it's not cucked.

In fact: if you can plagiarize porn and spread it freely then you're anti-cucking by helping deprive a foid of wealth since you're reducing her customer base.

You could get the same thing way cheaper and effortless by making a visit to an escort
Anywhere I've looked escorts seem really expensive, just what exactly are guys spending money on to get sex from non-escort foids? They're not getting sex until they give them an island vacation or some shit?

The only way I can see it being costlier is if you apply a dollar-per-hour value to time-spent talking to and hanging out with the foid, ie what we hope is some kind of romance. But that should generally be fulfilling and not viewed as work. If you're viewing it like work then do you really enjoy her company much to begin with?
 
It’s not worth it to try to get relationships with foids as a non-Chad
 
As long as you're not actually financially supporting the porn unbeknownst to you then it's not cucked.

In fact: if you can plagiarize porn and spread it freely then you're anti-cucking by helping deprive a foid of wealth since you're reducing her customer base.

You are supporting foids by clicking on porn sites since clicks generate ad revenue. Also the sexual gratification you get from porn is a fraction of what you get from a real foid.

Saying escortcelling is cucked is retard cope. Given youre not a chad or a low T faggot who can get by without sex altogether, the only real option left is escortcelling. Of course id rather have sex with foids without paying but thats just wishful thinking.
 
relationship is one thing, but i for the life of me cannot understand how men are still willing to marry in 2020
 
You are supporting foids by clicking on porn sites since clicks generate ad revenue.
Depends on the site, a lot of sites are just fellow incels re-distributing foids' porn illegally without their permission and without sending any revenue their way.

Even if they made some initial small investment to get access, in the long run they do god's work by giving free access to the porn so that people will stop paying the foids.

Recirculation sites often use old vids because the foids have aged and probably want to bury their past, it's a moral imperetive to keep that shit in circulation so their history is forever-known.

Also the sexual gratification you get from porn is a fraction of what you get from a real foid.
Depends on the porn, depends on the foid, TBH.

Saying escortcelling is cucked is retard cope.
I agree: to me it is only cuck if you are tricked out of resources by a foid who is fucking other guys, not if you willingly part with resources knowing she fucks other guys. The latter I have termed being a "bid" rather than being a "cuck".

Given youre not a chad or a low T faggot who can get by without sex altogether, the only real option left is escortcelling
what exactly do you think happens to high-T guys who don't get sex?

Why do you think they can't 'get by' with fapping?

Ability to get by on fapping isn't about being low-T it's about having a good imagination and not being fixated on IRL validation to the point where only that will do.

relationship is one thing, but i for the life of me cannot understand how men are still willing to marry in 2020
I think a lot of us would marry a wealthier woman, the question is whether or not to marry less wealthy financially-hypergamous women who will probably cheat on us anyway, or who are so used-up and non-productive that they aren't worth the investment even if they are loyal.
 
Blackpilled MGTOW would make sense.
No free shit for women, they need to work hard for everything they do
 
Truth.

I have 25 irl approach rejections and 1,000+ tinder rejections. Its over for me
no bro, you have to approach every woman in your continent
its a numbers game
 
what exactly do you think happens to high-T guys who don't get sex?

Why do you think they can't 'get by' with fapping?

Ability to get by on fapping isn't about being low-T it's about having a good imagination and not being fixated on IRL validation to the point where only that will do.

Fair enough, i suppose you could cope by fapping.
Most of them indeed do so once they hit their 30s...

They still dont chase me. They go for rich guys.
 
I have 25 irl approach rejections
now that's good but i have way more. and you know what is the best part?
That i tought that i got all those rejections because of my "bad personality" :feelsgah: :feelsgah:
I did everything like watching those self help videos and reading books about how to make my personality better...
lol
i'm miserable
 
now that's good but i have way more. and you know what is the best part?
That i tought that i got all those rejections because of my "bad personality" :feelsgah: :feelsgah:
I did everything like watching those self help videos and reading books about how to make my personality better...
lol
i'm miserable
Brutal... Thats why the bluepill is DANGEROUS
 
now that's good but i have way more. and you know what is the best part?
That i tought that i got all those rejections because of my "bad personality" :feelsgah: :feelsgah:
I did everything like watching those self help videos and reading books about how to make my personality better...
lol
i'm miserable

Should have showered more tbh.
 
Then the majority of them will stay alone forever as rich guys is a very sparse resource.

Theyd rather stay alone than be with a guy of average income. And these arent prime foids, iam talking about ugly old looking currywhores JFL.
 
Anywhere I've looked escorts seem really expensive, just what exactly are guys spending money on to get sex from non-escort foids? They're not getting sex until they give them an island vacation or some shit?

The only way I can see it being costlier is if you apply a dollar-per-hour value to time-spent talking to and hanging out with the foid, ie what we hope is some kind of romance. But that should generally be fulfilling and not viewed as work. If you're viewing it like work then do you really enjoy her company much to begin with?
Yo here 1 hour is 40-50 euros. Last summer i had a girl and we would go out every night, would spend 10 euro on overpriced soda and shiet and after 3 months i got no pussy still virgin spent like 100 euros on just sodas and some beer and bus tickets. That would've been 2 escorts right there
 
had a girl and we would go out every night,
would spend 10 euro on overpriced soda and shiet
and after 3 months i got no pussy
still virgin
spent like 100 euros on just sodas and some beer and bus tickets.
That would've been 2 escorts right there
This doesn't mean "pursuing relationships are pointless" it's more like "stop buying overpriced soda to impress a foid who leaves you with blue balls"
 
You are supporting foids by clicking on porn sites since clicks generate ad revenue. Also the sexual gratification you get from porn is a fraction of what you get from a real foid.

Saying escortcelling is cucked is retard cope. Given youre not a chad or a low T faggot who can get by without sex altogether, the only real option left is escortcelling. Of course id rather have sex with foids without paying but thats just wishful thinking.
Based af
relationship is one thing, but i for the life of me cannot understand how men are still willing to marry in 2020
Also very based
no bro, you have to approach every woman in your continent
its a numbers game
Crap im in tears LMAO :lul::lul::lul:
 
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