Serious Why would a communist revolution actually be bad for incels?

[jerrycan dan]

A lot of right wing copers here really need to explain themselves posting shit like "better dead than red" JFL. Why would a communist revolution even be bad for incels? Why should inkels give a shit about commies? All the leaders of the USSR were manlets or ugly, or some other kind of undesirable like Jewish (not antisemitic so you can't warn me, they were treated as undesirables in Russia before then) and the ones who took power after Stalin died were all fuck ugly old bureaucrats. Everyone who was successful was shot and exiled from the country, also because communism (Eastern Europe was kept in a cultural refrigerator by retarded commies and now they beat up gays) is not as corrosive as liberalism they ended the free love experiment very quickly when Stalin criminalised faggotry and other degenerate shit. It seems to me like socialism is piece of shit ratbags taking over the country as a managerial class, but right now we are being ruled by an increasingly global ten times worse managerial class who use women and chads as footsoldiers while oppressing sub-8 male wageslaves, and we are piece of shit ratbags who would probably live better lives under a Marxist-Leninist regime. We are too dumb, autistic or just plain uncharismatic due to ugliness to manipulate people into becoming CEO Chad, we would lose nothing lol. Why do politicopers sperg out at communism so hard?

It's not like social democracy which people claim is socialist now (welfare state bribing people for votes, esp dumb foids) is actually socialism, the means of production are still controlled by a parasitic ruling class but the neoliberal government happens to shit out sub-par public services in exchange for retarded amounts of your tax money that you got being a wageslave. In actual socialism all of these people would be exterminated in roblox and it would be lifefuel to watch.

 

[Rassimov]

Communists make a full stop when it comes to sex redistribution, and actually support full fledged eugenicism.

 

[jerrycan dan]

Communists make a full stop when it comes to sex redistribution, and actually support full fledged eugenicism.

proof? it would make sense since the USSR actually successfully put women in STEM half a century ago and betabuxxing is hard under gommunism, but for some reason hypergamy still seems to have been worse in the western bloc. dunno why. am I a retard and wrong about this tidbit?

 

[Invidia]

proof? it would make sense since the USSR actually successfully put women in STEM half a century ago and betabuxxing is hard under gommunism, but for some reason hypergamy still seems to have been worse in the western bloc. dunno why

Maybe because the sexual revolution happened in the west while the communists at least tried to keep subversive liberal sabotage out. We need to extend communism from production to reprodction.

 

[TINMAN]

Seize the means of reproduction

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

Communism got co-opted by neoliberals and cuckggressives.

 

[jerrycan dan]

Communism got co-opted by neoliberals and cuckggressives.

a lot of the old bolsheviks were similarly insufferable intellectuals
commissar jamal and commissar cletus would purge them eventually

 

[Deleted member 17811]

1) Communism is the system that (((they))) want. (((They))) typically consist of feminazis, socialists, soyboys, trannies and other degenerate fags, who have a very strong hatred of incels. Hell! They want incels and mgtow plebs dead. I will therefore side with any political movement/ideology that is against communism. If that means I become a nazi, I will do it. Anything to spite the left.
2) Communist systems are all about national unity. Anyone who has ideas that run counter to the official line is a threat. Incels never fit in with mainstream society, and many of us don't want anything to do with society. Thus, we are a threat because we lie outside the normal grouping, and because we would naturally be different to the party line.

TLDR: fuck communism. fuck the jews. fuck thots. better incel than red.

 

[Invidia]

The New Left arose first among dissenting intellectuals and campus groups in the United Kingdom and later alongside campus in the United States and in the Western bloc.
The German critical theorist Herbert Marcuse is referred to as the "Father of the New Left". Marcuse rejected the theory of class struggle and the Marxist concern with labor. According to Leszek Kołakowski, Marcuse argued that since "all questions of material existence have been solved, moral commands and prohibitions are no longer relevant". He regarded the realization of man's erotic nature as the true liberation of humanity, which inspired the utopias of Jerry Rubin and others.[2]
Between 1943 and 1950, Marcuse worked in U.S. Government service for the Office of Strategic Services (predecessor of the Central Intelligence Agency) and criticized the ideology of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in the book Soviet Marxism: A Critical Analysis (1958). After his studies, in the 1960s and the 1970s he became known as the pre-eminent theorist of the New Left and the student movements of West Germany, France and the United States.

The New Left was a broad political movement mainly in the 1960s and 1970s consisting of activists in the Western world who campaigned for a broad range of social issues such as civil and political rights, feminism, gay rights, abortion rights, gender roles and drug policy reforms.[2] Some saw the New Left as an oppositional reaction to earlier Marxist and labor unionmovements for social justice that focused on dialectical materialism and social class, while others who used the term saw the movement as a continuation and revitalization of traditional leftist goals.[3][4]

It's over for westerncels.

 

[Rassimov]

proof? it would make sense since the USSR actually successfully put women in STEM half a century ago and betabuxxing is hard under gommunism, but for some reason hypergamy still seems to have been worse in the western bloc. dunno why. am I a retard and wrong about this tidbit?

My ussr loving marxist professor shat on Jordan Petersons proposal of enforced monogamy, declaring; that the left should throw the ball back at the rightists who praise inequality of outcome as part of the natural order, by remaining unapologetic about the "unjust" world of sexuality.

 

[XOR]

The first mistake is trying to judge a political ideology by how good or bad incels have it; it doesn't get you anywhere.

 

[Invidia]

My ussr loving marxist professor shat on Jordan Petersons proposal of enforced monogamy, declaring; that the left should throw the ball back at the rightists who praise inequality of outcome as part of the natural order, by remaining unapologetic about the "unjust" world of sexuality.

I've read that reactionary pos zizek write that shit, maybe that is where he has it from. Anyway you can do the same with him and tell him how he is a hypocrite. Western leftists immediately turn into fascists when it comes to sexuality.

 

[Fiddlesticks03]

A lot of right wing copers here really need to explain themselves posting shit like "better dead than red" JFL. Why would a communist revolution even be bad for incels? Why should inkels give a shit about commies? All the leaders of the USSR were manlets or ugly, or some other kind of undesirable like Jewish (not antisemitic so you can't warn me, they were treated as undesirables in Russia before then) and the ones who took power after Stalin died were all fuck ugly old bureaucrats. Everyone who was successful was shot and exiled from the country, also because communism (Eastern Europe was kept in a cultural refrigerator by retarded commies and now they beat up gays) is not as corrosive as liberalism they ended the free love experiment very quickly when Stalin criminalised faggotry and other degenerate shit. It seems to me like socialism is piece of shit ratbags taking over the country as a managerial class, but right now we are being ruled by an increasingly global ten times worse managerial class who use women and chads as footsoldiers while oppressing sub-8 male wageslaves, and we are piece of shit ratbags who would probably live better lives under a Marxist-Leninist regime. We are too dumb, autistic or just plain uncharismatic due to ugliness to manipulate people into becoming CEO Chad, we would lose nothing lol. Why do politicopers sperg out at communism so hard?

It's not like social democracy which people claim is socialist now (welfare state bribing people for votes, esp dumb foids) is actually socialism, the means of production are still controlled by a parasitic ruling class but the neoliberal government happens to shit out sub-par public services in exchange for retarded amounts of your tax money that you got being a wageslave. In actual socialism all of these people would be exterminated in roblox and it would be lifefuel to watch.

Nowhere in here do I know what you mean by communism besides purging the wealthy. Which does not really mean much when a communist vanguard becomes the new oppressive elites.

What would a communist society look like? No money? Labor vouchers? And what keeps people from falling into poverty? Late 20th century Western European welfare states seemed to do a good enough job with preventing economic class exploitation.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

idk, but it would be good to see rich chads getting impaled

 

[Rassimov]

I've read that reactionary pos zizek write that shit, maybe that is where he has it from. Anyway you can do the same with him and tell him how he is a hypocrite. Western leftists immediately turn into fascists when it comes to sexuality.

Since the 1900s marxist thought has been inseparable from radical women's liberation theology. At the forefront remains the right of female bodily autonomy. Now most marxists are bluepilled af when it comes to human sexuality, but if you confront them with the very real hypergamous praxis of female mate selection, they will probably shun you as a reactionary, or acknowledge it, but attribute it to some 'late stage capitalism is making them like that' bullshit.

 

[KingOfRome]

Because the SMP will get even more lopsided as you will not only have to be Chad, but also a card-carrying Communist Party member

 

[jerrycan dan]

Because the SMP will get even more lopsided as you will not only have to be Chad, but also a card-carrying Communist Party member

isn't this easier to get than social status and money now though? how is it any different

 

[FidelCashflow]

I remember seeing some documentary about when ths Berlin wall fell and they interviewed guys from the communist side immediately afters and one of the reasons they where happy that the communism had ended was because they couldnt get women through betabuxing essentially.
Apparently the communism had created a similar condition to our modern world where the females didnt need betabuxers because they also had a job and the state would take care of everything else they needed. So the average guys where left to be incel

 

[Fiddlesticks03]

Since the 1900s marxist thought has been inseparable from radical women's liberation theology.

That started in the 1960s. Early 20th century marxists like Bax and Mary Marcy wrote stuff about sexuality that modern marxists would call "incel ideology"

https://incels.wiki/w/Women_As_Sex_...ing_a_View_of_the_Economic_-_Status_of_Woman)


Like that book ^^^

 

[Invidia]

At the forefront remains the right of female bodily autonomy.

Which is kind of ironic, as self-ownership is very much an individualist ideal and what liberals use to justify free markets and private property, mises is a big fan of it.

 

[Rassimov]

That started in the 1960s. Early 20th century marxists like Bax and Mary Marcy wrote stuff about sexuality that modern marxists would call "incel ideology"

https://incels.wiki/w/Women_As_Sex_...ing_a_View_of_the_Economic_-_Status_of_Woman)


Like
this book

Thx, will look it up. But the main stalinist feminist Alexandra Kollontai's degeneracy remains unmatched.

 

[Invidia]

Thx, will look it up. But the main stalinist feminist Alexandra Kollontai's degeneracy remains unmatched.

I think Victoria Woodhull is a worthy contestor. I think she was more active during Lenin's time though and was later moved out to some diplomat post and free love etc. repealed.

 

[KingOfRome]

isn't this easier to get than social status and money now though? how is it any different

You get money and status in communist country the same way you get it in capitalist country: nepotism and luck.

 

[Speed]

I remember seeing some documentary about when ths Berlin wall fell and they interviewed guys from the communist side immediately afters and one of the reasons they where happy that the communism had ended was because they couldnt get women through betabuxing essentially.
Apparently the communism had created a similar condition to our modern world where the females didnt need betabuxers because they also had a job and the state would take care of everything else they needed. So the average guys where left to be incel

Damn thats some crazy ass shit.

 

[Rassimov]

I think Victoria Woodhull is a worthy contestor. I think she was more active during Lenin's time though and was later moved out to some diplomat post and free love etc. repealed.View attachment 157812

that meme, tho. saved. Never understood how some early Bolsheviks disparaged monogamy as a bourgeois remnant , while it was the upper classes that organized orgies in bath houses.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

I will therefore side with any political movement/ideology that is against communism. If that means I become a nazi, I will do it. Anything to spite the left.

 

[Perseus]

I grew up in the aftermath of a failed soviet state and i can assure you it's hell on earth unless you are one of the select few dudes who were in power or close to those in power and got rich during the corrupt privatization. It makes even normies suicidal and everyone with half a brain leaves the country, essentialy the ones who are left are those who simply can't leave. Also women are picked up young and took to the west by rich white guys so you literally have less females and you can see it everywhere you go. The women who are left take amazing jobs very young because their bosses want to have a harem. Everything is corrupt and everything you can imagine is low quality. You don't want communism, believe me. It's a doomed system, destined to fail even simply because of it's innefectual economics and the massive amounts of deficits, debts and bankruptcy it generates inevitably. It's far better to have a right wing government with neetbux for those who need them.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

My ussr loving marxist professor shat on Jordan Petersons proposal of enforced monogamy, declaring; that the left should throw the ball back at the rightists who praise inequality of outcome as part of the natural order, by remaining unapologetic about the "unjust" world of sexuality.

In a way, he is correct. Inequality of outcome is a because of genetic inequality. However, he fails to understand this as an evolutionary threat. Women don't choose on the basis of success, but on nonfactors like bone structure and height. Personality and intelligence are low on their criteria. What this means is that the only people having children in quantity are dumb, high impulse brutes. Advanced civilizations cannot survive with these as the majority of its population.

He also ignores the social effects of what is going on. If men have nothing to pass on, why should men care about civilization or society?What would
stop somebody from simply causing damage and destruction if they will just kill themselves anyways?

Now most marxists are bluepilled af when it comes to human sexuality, but if you confront them with the very real hypergamous praxis of female mate selection, they will probably shun you as a reactionary, or acknowledge it, but attribute it to some 'late stage capitalism is making them like that' bullshit.

I think its largely because of the implications of what is being said. Hypergamy essentially states that a major barrier to improving the human condition is female evolutionary tendencies. Following from this, one must conclude that the female side of humanity must be changed fundamentally. This is far more profound than many realize. I've always maintained that female mate selection, not economics (which is a means to court females and thus pass on genetic material), is what drives human suffering.

 

[ElliotRodgerGod]

communism is extremely feminist.

 

[Deleted member 21770]

TLDR: fuck communism. fuck the jews. fuck thots. better incel than red.

 

[Rassimov]

In a way, he is correct. Inequality of outcome is a because of genetic inequality. However, he fails to understand this as an evolutionary threat. Women don't choose on the basis of success, but on nonfactors like bone structure and height. Personality and intelligence are low on their criteria. What this means is that the only people having children in quantity are dumb, high impulse brutes. Advanced civilizations cannot survive with these as the majority of its population.

I disagree with the belief that female desire for Chad only can be explained as a purely a biological tendency - this is far too simplistic. While desiring physically healthy men would made sense form a evolutionary pov, noodles fixating and obsessing over norse phenotypes with fair skin and light eyes doesn't. Women's tastes are being to a great extent molded by a anglo-saxon culture now gone viral to every shithole that has access to the internet, reinforcing beauty ideals of a former empire genociding manlets in the process.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I disagree with the belief that female desire for Chad only can be explained as a purely a biological tendency - this is far too simplistic. While desiring physically healthy men would made sense form a evolutionary pov, noodles fixating and obsessing over norse phenotypes with fair skin and light eyes doesn't. Women's tastes are being to a great extent molded by a anglo-saxon culture now gone viral to every shithole that has access to the internet, reinforcing beauty ideals of a former empire genociding manlets in the process.

I think the obsession with norse phenotype comes from the typical female obsession about height, frame and face, which the stereotypical nord has in spades. I don't think there has ever been a group of females in human history that deviated from preferring these physical traits. I doubt females have ever found short manlets with shit faces attractive. I maintain that if you are tall, have decent face and good frame, you will reproduce. I agree though that the obsession with fair skin and light eyes is from media and likely a fetishistic development.

 

[Glokta]

Communist regimes were usually pretty hellbent on trying to achieve true equality between the sexes regardless if pesky reality and human biology allowed it or not.

My mother is a good example of that kind of conditioning. She was conditioned to believe acting like a man was the ideal any socialist young woman should aspire to. She was pushy and loud. Drunk like a fish, smoked like a chimney and cursed like a sailor. Believed virginity was some reactionary bullshit that the modern woman was freed from. She had a male job but like other women in male dominated fields she was as useful as a square wheel and kept on the payroll simply because the government programs required it. She hit reality hard in the late 80s when the system collapsed and the government was unable to financial sponsor the women activisation programs any longer.

There was a massive exodus of females from the workforce when it became apparent they were only employed because the Party demanded it and without the Party in charge the newly created private enterprises were dropping dead weight however they could. Like many women from her generation, my mother became pregnant with the first beta that stuck around after she could no longer rely on a job provided by the Party.

 

[AlexAnguish]

Anything lead by SJWs would be bad. They as much as they talk about love of communism actually don't like "real" communism. They would have hated the USSR. But the USSR style system may have benefited us. They like equality in a skewed way, just, whatever benefits them.

 

[Neggr]

a revolution would be the best thing to happen for an incel

 

[Pitar62]

Because communism in 2020 would mean the ruling party is made up of feminists and SJW's. They are the marxist activists.

 

[Deleted member 27159]

Well they won’t do shit about inceldom

 

[IncelCream]

Based Comrade Cel

To be fair I prefer Capitalist system with Social welfare but none for women

 

[genma]

Why would a communist revolution even be bad for incels?

A lot of incels are NEET. Communist isn't going to allow that. You will be assigned to work in a factory or some other awful job, or you will die.

All the leaders of the USSR were manlets or ugly, or some other kind of undesirable

They were all sociopaths. If you were a sociopath, you'd also do better than you're doing in your current society.

we would lose nothing lol.

You're going to lose your porn and vidya and any cheap comforts you enjoy, like alcohol. All of it will be either illegal (it'll be considered bourgeois, don't you know) or impossible (you wont be able to own a computer) or unavailable due to shortages.

Oh and also, you wont be allowed to live alone. Initially, you'll be moved to a commune that'll be like a hostel where you have to live elbow-to-elbow with normies, who will continue to bully you. Later, you may get a small apartment in a government building, but much of your life will be standing in line with normies.

 

[Blackpill Rage]

Because communism is jewish. JFL @ supporting jew communism.

 

[SafeAffect]

99% of communists are self-hating beta male soycucks

 

[Deleted member 26506]

Sorry I had ancestors who died from the communists (living under the USSR, not in a war)
I don't trust this system, and I prefer to have food in my plate and have my copes
you can't go against human nature