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From as long as I can remember, I wanted something I thought was pretty simple: a girlfriend, a partner, someone to share things with.
And for most of my life, I believed the lie that if I was kind, respectful, funny, smart, and real, that would be enough.
I’m 25 now. And my experience has been the exact opposite.
Asked a girl I’d been friendly with out who said "I'm not looking for a relationship right now" No less then a week later when asked out by some 6 foot tall guy she barely knew, she immediately agreed to dating him.
This other woman bullied me the entire time we worked together despite every attempt from me to get us to even just be friends, apparently she did develop a crush on me because she thought I was funny but only realized after I left that if she wants to get with someone she needs to be honest and open with them. Instead of trying to contact me she just picked a new guy and went for him instead. Found all this from her sister who basically told me to my face that in private she would talk about how cute I was and shit and told me that her experience with me made her change her mind about how to handle relationships, for all the fucking good that does me. Her boyfriend is also 6 feet tall.
In high school all the girls made a list ranking how attractive the men in the school were, I was placed at the bottom of the list. Furthermore for Valentines Day the staff made a thing were girls would write anonymous love letters that the staff would read out anonymously at assembly, with the kind of fucked up twist being the staff kept records of who wrote what and revealed who wrote it before reading the letter out. Nearly every girl sent one, and every guy in my year got one, except me.
Told countless times by women that I'm a "Great guy" and "You'll find someone eventually" and "Any girl would be lucky to have you because you're such a great guy" and yet when I find out they are single and ask them out they shut down.
Even beyond that I asked them if they could matchmake me with friends, suddenly "Oh I don't have any single friends" or "I don't know about that" or whatever, but surprise surprise they do have single friends.
One of these bitches complains constantly about how the men she's attracted to are "Pigs". So I tried asking her out, she replied. “You're not my type" She’s had plenty of boyfriend after that and continues to complain about how all the guys that are her type are awful and how that proves that men are pigs but still refuses to date me because I’m not her type. ???
Spend seven years on a ton of dating sites, sending likes and messages without a single match. Sent literal fucking heaters with no reply. Whenever the site allows for you not to see profile pics I get responses on my conversations and they like my conversational skills, until they finally see my profile pics or realise I'm short then I get ghosted immediately.
Go to bars to try and talk to women, every one ignores me. Friends say that they’re probably just uncomfortable with random guys coming up to them at the bar. Therefore think logically if I wanted to get responses I need a reason for the them to be okay with me talking to them or them to come up to me, so I sign up to a battle of the bands thing at the bar there, lead singer. WIN the battle of the bands, awesome, all my bandmates (over 6 feet tall) go home that night with women who came up to THEM. I got told by women that "You didn't win WITH your band, your band won IN SPITE of you" and even had one woman pour her drink on me.
Ask coworkers out, no reply.
Ask friends out, no reply.
Joined hobby groups, sports groups, etc. No reply.
Go the gym 3 times a week, I’m not exactly super fit but I keep in decent shape.
Friends say lower your expectations, okay. Try with single mums, trans women, overweight women, any woman who would be considered unnattractive.No response.
At the high school I work at all the female students will whisper to each other when they think I can't hear them about how ugly and creepy I am.
None of my friends who are under 6 feet have girlfriends, all my friends who are over 6 feet (Minus one guy but he’s gay and therefore not applicable) have girlfriends.
Every time I have a male boss I am considered the best worker the MVP of the company, they chat with me about games and anime and shit. Every time I have a female boss I’m yelled at for being slow or stupid or retarded.
My relationship with my mum is strained due to abuse, and my sister once stabbed me after I refused to give her money during an argument.
I went to see a therapist about it. She seemed friendly in our first session, but after that, every time I tried to book a follow-up, she’d cancel. After being rescheduled several times, I gave up and cancelled altogether.
I was kicked out of university because a woman didn’t like the thing I said about religion. (I said the bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek and was translated into English later and pointed out that some names weren’t what the actual people were called and were Anglicised names used for English audiences. Even gave an example of how my real name is different to the name I use commonly because my background is Italian and people often have trouble with it)
Been told to kill myself by multiple women.
I did EVERYTHING they said you needed to do to get a girlfriend and STILL got NOTHING.
All the while convincing myself for 25 years that there wasn’t an issue, that it was just the worst of women letting down the group or bad luck, and if I simply waited eventually it would all work out. But I just don’t think I can believe that anymore, I genuinely don’t think I can think of a single positive relationship I have with a woman and no real proof to believe I ever will.
Yet anytime I try to just tell people of my experiences they label me an incel and they plug their ears to even the possibility there might be an issue with women.
I’m 25 now. And my experience has been the exact opposite.
Asked a girl I’d been friendly with out who said "I'm not looking for a relationship right now" No less then a week later when asked out by some 6 foot tall guy she barely knew, she immediately agreed to dating him.
This other woman bullied me the entire time we worked together despite every attempt from me to get us to even just be friends, apparently she did develop a crush on me because she thought I was funny but only realized after I left that if she wants to get with someone she needs to be honest and open with them. Instead of trying to contact me she just picked a new guy and went for him instead. Found all this from her sister who basically told me to my face that in private she would talk about how cute I was and shit and told me that her experience with me made her change her mind about how to handle relationships, for all the fucking good that does me. Her boyfriend is also 6 feet tall.
In high school all the girls made a list ranking how attractive the men in the school were, I was placed at the bottom of the list. Furthermore for Valentines Day the staff made a thing were girls would write anonymous love letters that the staff would read out anonymously at assembly, with the kind of fucked up twist being the staff kept records of who wrote what and revealed who wrote it before reading the letter out. Nearly every girl sent one, and every guy in my year got one, except me.
Told countless times by women that I'm a "Great guy" and "You'll find someone eventually" and "Any girl would be lucky to have you because you're such a great guy" and yet when I find out they are single and ask them out they shut down.
Even beyond that I asked them if they could matchmake me with friends, suddenly "Oh I don't have any single friends" or "I don't know about that" or whatever, but surprise surprise they do have single friends.
One of these bitches complains constantly about how the men she's attracted to are "Pigs". So I tried asking her out, she replied. “You're not my type" She’s had plenty of boyfriend after that and continues to complain about how all the guys that are her type are awful and how that proves that men are pigs but still refuses to date me because I’m not her type. ???
Spend seven years on a ton of dating sites, sending likes and messages without a single match. Sent literal fucking heaters with no reply. Whenever the site allows for you not to see profile pics I get responses on my conversations and they like my conversational skills, until they finally see my profile pics or realise I'm short then I get ghosted immediately.
Go to bars to try and talk to women, every one ignores me. Friends say that they’re probably just uncomfortable with random guys coming up to them at the bar. Therefore think logically if I wanted to get responses I need a reason for the them to be okay with me talking to them or them to come up to me, so I sign up to a battle of the bands thing at the bar there, lead singer. WIN the battle of the bands, awesome, all my bandmates (over 6 feet tall) go home that night with women who came up to THEM. I got told by women that "You didn't win WITH your band, your band won IN SPITE of you" and even had one woman pour her drink on me.
Ask coworkers out, no reply.
Ask friends out, no reply.
Joined hobby groups, sports groups, etc. No reply.
Go the gym 3 times a week, I’m not exactly super fit but I keep in decent shape.
Friends say lower your expectations, okay. Try with single mums, trans women, overweight women, any woman who would be considered unnattractive.No response.
At the high school I work at all the female students will whisper to each other when they think I can't hear them about how ugly and creepy I am.
None of my friends who are under 6 feet have girlfriends, all my friends who are over 6 feet (Minus one guy but he’s gay and therefore not applicable) have girlfriends.
Every time I have a male boss I am considered the best worker the MVP of the company, they chat with me about games and anime and shit. Every time I have a female boss I’m yelled at for being slow or stupid or retarded.
My relationship with my mum is strained due to abuse, and my sister once stabbed me after I refused to give her money during an argument.
I went to see a therapist about it. She seemed friendly in our first session, but after that, every time I tried to book a follow-up, she’d cancel. After being rescheduled several times, I gave up and cancelled altogether.
I was kicked out of university because a woman didn’t like the thing I said about religion. (I said the bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek and was translated into English later and pointed out that some names weren’t what the actual people were called and were Anglicised names used for English audiences. Even gave an example of how my real name is different to the name I use commonly because my background is Italian and people often have trouble with it)
Been told to kill myself by multiple women.
I did EVERYTHING they said you needed to do to get a girlfriend and STILL got NOTHING.
All the while convincing myself for 25 years that there wasn’t an issue, that it was just the worst of women letting down the group or bad luck, and if I simply waited eventually it would all work out. But I just don’t think I can believe that anymore, I genuinely don’t think I can think of a single positive relationship I have with a woman and no real proof to believe I ever will.
Yet anytime I try to just tell people of my experiences they label me an incel and they plug their ears to even the possibility there might be an issue with women.
You summarised inceldom and female behaviour.
