Venting Why the hostility toward cryptocurrency in incel communities

[Fontaine]

Beyond the obvious answer ("I am salty for having missed most of the upward movement"), any particular argument against crypto?

You get the first serious chance ever to (1) opt out of the political status quo (2) get rich, and you prefer fantasizing about a neo-nazi overthrow of the government that will never happen?

 

[Deleted member 8499]

I'm just indifferent

 

[Mongolianwizard]

Because economics is for the rich and nobody here is fucking rich, because if we were we wouldn't be incels now would we.

 

[Bagelcel]

I'm just indifferent

Indifferent/negatively view those that are pushing Crypto for likely their own agenda.

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

its cope, only normies believe into that trend. only time u could ever get rich from it is back when it first started.

Well im talking about bitcoin, but from what ive seen of the other cryptos they dont seem to be doing much either from the last few years.

But hey to each their own, if u wanna lose ya money go right head

+ being rich means nothing, yea itd make ur life much easier but if ur subhuman could you truly enjoy it?

 

[Fontaine]

its cope, only normies believe into that trend. only time u could ever get rich from it is back when it first started.

Which confirms what I'm saying, it's all about the salt of not having been first to invest. Quite sad

 

[caturday]

Aren't you the guy that's rich in bitcoins? It's easy saying to invest when you're already rich, don't you think? Unless you buy something really cheap and you're lucky enough to watch it grow, it's a gamble.

 

[Gigacel]

What I hate is the trend of buying crypto and the influx of low iq normies rushing into it. Some people are so low iq that they think that it’s an actual coin you are buying. At that point if you don’t know what the fuck you are buying you are just fuckin retarded

 

[Deleted member 60]

(((Fontaine)))

 

[Akira]

Because I hate what I don’t understand and I definitely don’t understand cryptocurrency.

 

[anondump]

Cause let's say even if you made money and you put in $100 at the beginning of the year and ended with a $1000 at the end of the year.
It'd be nice but not life changing.
I personally don't have that much money to gamble.

 

[Gremlincel]

I am salty for having missed most of the upward movement

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

Which confirms what I'm saying, it's all about the salt of not having been first to invest. Quite sad

yepppppp

 

[blickpall]

Which confirms what I'm saying, it's all about the salt of not having been first to invest. Quite sad

Nope.

I look at it as no different than another form of speculation that has a level of volatility that I'm not comfortable with. I'd rather make less money with my savings invested into a moderate IRA vs. taking the risk of losing money due to matters outside of my control.

EDIT: Also the fact that every person who tries to encourage others to buy, seems like a person who is trying to improve their own wealth by attracting more newbies into the fold who are more likely to make bad decisions. Otherwise, people would just shut up about crypto or just talk about it elsewhere, where it is more relevant. But no, every so often, no matter where on the internet you are, you have to scroll past the same repetitive crypto threads, over and over. Just go do your shit and shut up about it, or better yet find a community FOR crypto discussion and discuss there.

EDIT 2: I don't necessarily mean "you" as in Fontaine, I mean as in the general "you" of crypto users.

 

[Jockcel]

I don't like gambling.

 

[stuttercel]

Nope.

I look at it as no different than another form of speculation that has a level of volatility that I'm not comfortable with. I'd rather make less money with my savings invested into a moderate IRA vs. taking the risk of losing money due to matters outside of my control.

EDIT: Also the fact that every person who tries to encourage others to buy, seems like a person who is trying to improve their own wealth by attracting more newbies into the fold who are more likely to make bad decisions. Otherwise, people would just shut up about crypto or just talk about it elsewhere, where it is more relevant. But no, every so often, no matter where on the internet you are, you have to scroll past the same repetitive crypto threads, over and over. Just go do your shit and shut up about it, or better yet find a community FOR crypto discussion and discuss there.

EDIT 2: I don't necessarily mean "you" as in Fontaine, I mean as in the general "you" of crypto users.

Yes you are right it’s basically gambling, but let’s say you have 200$. In what would you invest other than crypto? (Not that i am for investing in crypto) just curious. Gold? Too slow. Idk any ideas?

 

[Rice Cel]

Because economics is for the rich and nobody here is fucking rich, because if we were we wouldn't be incels now would we.

If you are a truecel, being rich just makes finding sex easier. True "love" is still the same probability as a lottery win

 

[blickpall]

Yes you are right it’s basically gambling, but let’s say you have 200$. In what would you invest other than crypto? (Not that i am for investing in crypto) just curious. Gold? Too slow. Idk any ideas?

If I was in your position and only had $200 to invest, I'd wait until I had more money saved up enough to make meaningful, long-term, and relatively safe investments.

 

[Fontaine]

Aren't you the guy that's rich in bitcoins? It's easy saying to invest when you're already rich, don't you think? Unless you buy something really cheap and you're lucky enough to watch it grow, it's a gamble.

I am. I suppose it is far easier to invest when you already have a lot of money. It is also far easier to get even richer, as obviously a factor 5 does not have the same absolute impact on a $1K capital and a $100K capital.

However, there have been windows of opportunities in the last years, notably in 2016, where a mere $200 investment in Ethereum could have made you very rich if you held. These windows have closed, unfortunately, as far as I can see. I don't know if new ones will come. The crypto ecosystem is now too mature to allow easy profits.

Currently, it's not anymore about getting rich with a low starting investment, but envisioning a x2, a x5 in one to three years if you're lucky, and more in three to fifteen years. Beyond all the greed, the stupidity and the chaos, the booms and the busts, the essential principle and promise of the crypto ecosystem, freeing wealth from the shackles of the banking system and the State apparatus, remains as strong as on its first day. Crypto, despite all the scams and scandals, and fleeced idiots, continues to embody technologically the perspective of "immortal, international, unseizable wealth" (a Jewish dream undoubtedly, but one that, as far as I can see, has always been opened up to everyone).

It is my expectation that far from disappearing into irrelevance, the crypto ecosystem will continue to grow silently, over the decades, steadily ignoring all the noise and the scandals, the bullshit journalism and the sour grapes of those who lost money, out of pure technical merit, until one day an entire country has ceased to use the currency of their government.

Someone who dismisses crypto out of sour grapes will find himself in the same situation as someone who adamantly refuses to put electric light in his living room because he lost money on electric stocks back in time.

 

[masterwizard]

I made a good amount in bitcoin(100,000 euros cashed out, about 80,000 euros still in as of now), my etherium and litecoin have also done well. But everything else has been disappointing so far. Im really waiting to see the first commercial applications of blockchain, if ripple or the like ever actually get used for anything like that I will make so much money.

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

 

[Fontaine]

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This strip is a strong argument in favor of crypto tbh (although I don't condone CP).

Crypto is an embodiment, among others, of this miraculous but seemingly unstoppable "revenge of the nerds". As years pass, the mind is becoming ever more important than the body. One example is the growing superiority of capital and intellectual labour over physical work. I have never understood why incels tend to embrace an almost self-sacrificial doctrine of Luddism and National-Socialism, when capitalism and technology, and history itself, are clearly going in our favor. I understand it as capricious and impatient anger.

It is true that sexuality still belongs firmly to the "old world", however I am confident that a solution to this problem will be found sooner or later.

 

[BrendioEEE]

It's glorified gambling, just like the stock market, it's both a Jewish scheme that only hurts capitalism and society as a whole. The stock market, and cryptocurrency both need to be abolished. This is not how markets should work.

 

[ratIRL_l9]

It's glorified gambling, just like the stock market, it's both a Jewish scheme that only hurts capitalism and society as a whole. The stock market, and cryptocurrency both need to be abolished. This is not how markets should work.

 

[Fontaine]

It's glorified gambling, just like the stock market, it's both a Jewish scheme that only hurts capitalism and society as a whole. The stock market, and cryptocurrency both need to be abolished. This is not how markets should work.

So everything you don't understand is Jewish? Jews have nothing to do with the emergence of bitcoin or ethereum.

And how should markets work, tell us?

 

[BrendioEEE]

So everything you don't understand is Jewish?

Nice strawman (((Fontaine)))

Jews have nothing to do with the emergence of bitcoin or ethereum.

The legal and economic circumstances to allow for something like Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency to arise, basically a second stock market is because of Jewish influences on the economy from a grand scale. In a proper economy none of this would have ever happened, there would have been no need for it.

And how should markets work, tell us?

Abolish the stock market for one, i'm not advocating for a specific economical system, just the removal of the gambling and usury elements from the current capitalist marketplace would be a decent start. The way people own companies, buy shares, etc, it's just too volatile, allows for corruption, hostile takeovers, easy to influence if you're hyper rich, etc. It's all just fucking dreadful, a corporatocracy, that allows more monopolies and powerful outside forces to influence everything.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

This strip is a strong argument in favor of crypto tbh (although I don't condone CP).

Crypto is an embodiment, among others, of this miraculous but seemingly unstoppable "revenge of the nerds". As years pass, the mind is becoming ever more important than the body. One example is the growing superiority of capital and intellectual labour over physical work. I have never understood why incels tend to embrace an almost self-sacrificial doctrine of Luddism and National-Socialism, when capitalism and technology, and history itself, are clearly going in our favor. I understand it as capricious and impatient anger.

It is true that sexuality still belongs firmly to the "old world", however I am confident that a solution to this problem will be found sooner or later.

In our or in that of the elite? Capitalism or technology? Intellectual labor or intellectual property? Superiority of Capital? Just because it's succesful. It doesn't mean it's right.
I know what you mean with luddites and nazis (nazis were facist capitalists btw, but you probably know that) but there are more systems than those three.
Capitalism is overrated. It had its use to kickstart the economy, but today we are split into slaves and masters again thanks to it and the masters use huge parts of their financial power to change the narrative about the system we life in to cement their power while hurting the system that made them big. There will be no solution. Libertariansim is a meme. The struggle we are in is a class struggle. The male equivalent to natural female hypergamy is to seek infinite ressources on the back of the common people no matter if this rational or not. If technology advances further unde rthis ideology people will just be crushed. It's delusional to think, that the elite suddenly will start to care about them.

We have already the tools to fight inceldom today anyway.
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Besides personal reason not to invest in crapto (freudian slip) I have intellectual reasons as well. More to that later.

 

[Fontaine]

Nice strawman (((Fontaine)))

The legal and economic circumstances to allow for something like Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency to arise, basically a second stock market is because of Jewish influences on the economy from a grand scale. In a proper economy none of this would have ever happened, there would have been no need for it.

Abolish the stock market for one, i'm not advocating for a specific economical system, just the removal of the gambling and usury elements from the current capitalist marketplace would be a decent start. The way people own companies, buy shares, etc, it's just too volatile, allows for corruption, hostile takeovers, easy to influence if you're hyper rich, etc. It's all just fucking dreadful, a corporatocracy, that allows more monopolies and powerful outside forces to influence everything.

The only person who was in a position to enact what you described (the free market must be curtailed globally, or not at all) is Adolf Hitler. He was defeated. Crypto is the only thing we've got now.

 

[BrendioEEE]

The only person who was in a position to enact what you described (the free market must be curtailed globally, or not at all) is Adolf Hitler. He was defeated. Crypto is the only thing we've got now.

Crypto isn't a solution to the current system, in fact its just a zombified self created cancerous limb of it. Capitalism when given no restrictions in the current world only benefits those who are already in power. Same with Marxist socialism of course. You can have an economy and businesses and banking without Usury, and a gambling aspect. We've had this in the past, we had this in Germany aswell obviously, etc. It's not 100% free market or 100% control, in the current system that only benefits (((Them))).

 

[Fontaine]

Crypto isn't a solution to the current system, in fact its just a zombified self created cancerous limb of it. Capitalism when given no restrictions in the current world only benefits those who are already in power. Same with Marxist socialism of course. You can have an economy and businesses and banking without Usury, and a gambling aspect. We've had this in the past, we had this in Germany aswell obviously, etc. It's not 100% free market or 100% control, in the current system that only benefits (((Them))).

You had an opportunity to become part of the new ruling class with crypto

But you prefer to spit on it out of "muh principles".

 

[BrendioEEE]

You had an opportunity to become part of the new ruling class with crypto

But you prefer to spit on it out of "muh principles".

You didn't fall for the million dollar bitcoin meme by 2020 did you? Boy I can't wait. Gamblers are degenerate, what comes around goes around my dude.

It's over

 

[Fontaine]

You didn't fall for the million dollar bitcoin meme by 2020 did you? Boy I can't wait. Gamblers are degenerate, what comes around goes around my dude.
View attachment 30046 It's over

A million-dollar bitcoin in 2020 is an excessive target, and it's not even sure that bitcoin won't be superseded by ethereum by then. However, I can easily envision a crypto market above $1 trillion in 2020.

As to me, don't worry: I didn't fall for any million meme; I have a million. Early Ethereum investor. Back in 2016, becoming a millionaire was as easy as putting $5K on the right horse and waiting a few months.

 

[BrendioEEE]

I didn't fall for any million meme; I have a million.

Volcel

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Crypto isn't a solution to the current system, in fact its just a zombified self created cancerous limb of it. Capitalism when given no restrictions in the current world only benefits those who are already in power. Same with Marxist socialism of course. You can have an economy and businesses and banking without Usury, and a gambling aspect. We've had this in the past, we had this in Germany aswell obviously, etc. It's not 100% free market or 100% control, in the current system that only benefits (((Them))).

Agreed to the cryptopart.

What are you on about? Socialliberal coalition after the war? What we have now is a logical result of that. People who got rich then used their power to fuck up the system.

@Fontaine Is it just me or do you ignore me in every fucking thread? Guess it's over for autismscels. Even online friendless and forever alone.

 

[Newbite]

I own crypto but i cant withdraw it

 

[BrendioEEE]

What are you on about? Socialliberal coalition after the war? What we have now is a logical result of that. People who got rich then used their power to fuck up the system.

I think you misunderstood what I said because i'm not getting what you mean in relation to my post.

 

[Fontaine]

Volcel

B.S.

(1) a million is nothing nowadays (2) I am still deformed and short (3) it is extremely dangerous to build a relationship with a woman on the condition that you have money. She will attempt to spend it for her own selfish needs, and if one day you are broke, she will obviously leave you; I don't want that kind of woman in my life.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

You can have an economy and businesses and banking without Usury, and a gambling aspect. We've had this in the past, we had this in Germany aswell obviously, etc. It's not 100% free market or 100% control, in the current system that only benefits (((Them))).

I refered to the sentences before the last one (which I don't really understand btw tbh).

 

[Fontaine]

@Fontaine Is it just me or do you ignore me in every fucking thread? Guess it's over for autismscels. Even online friendless and forever alone.

I dislike discussions about politics and ideal political systems, and your posts probably involved a lot of that crap. A short, but long enough experience, taught me that nothing in the foreseeable future will change. The logical outcome of universal democracy is liberalism and welfare. Liberalism and welfare will be our plight as long as universal democracy can keep military power.

 

[Templarcel421]

Because crypto is a scam to enrich the BOGS

 

[Darthmat]

What the hell is a millionaire doing on this forum?

 

[BrendioEEE]

B.S. a million is nothing nowadays

I could become volcel with 10k easily, living in L.A, and not being able to get hired to even become a wageslave at a minimum wage job because of my race (Literally seen less qualified women and minorities get hired over me) I've learned how to min max money in extremely high IQ ways. I could become volcel with 10k easily. There's 2 methods. Women in Middle America are provably less shallow via statistical data and anecdotal evidence. I have travelled to several places in Middle America when I was younger with friends and this was when I was a 330 pound 18-19 year old neckbeard. I had women interested in me, I became volcel. I could easily min max the 10k to move to some rural town, find a looksmatch trad woman, find a job there, etc.

Option number 2 would be a similar situation but in South East Asia. I could utilize 10k in Vietnam, Thailand, Etc to find a poor slant wife who would actually love me easily. Women are driven by resources, it's just biology, but culture still matters and there are places where hypergamy is not as rampant. I don't know what the fuck you're doing. Sounds like you got lucky gambling with crypto and you're too mentalcel to use it to get a GF. You're absolutely volcel.

What the hell is a millionaire doing on this forum?

 

[Fontaine]

I could become volcel with 10k easily, living in L.A, and not being able to get hired to even become a wageslave at a minimum wage job because of my race (Literally seen less qualified women and minorities get hired over me) I've learned how to min max money in extremely high IQ ways. I could become volcel with 10k easily. There's 2 methods. Women in Middle America are provably less shallow via statistical data and anecdotal evidence. I have travelled to several places in Middle America when I was younger with friends and this was when I was a 330 pound 18-19 year old neckbeard. I had women interested in me, I became volcel. I could easily min max the 10k to move to some rural town, find a looksmatch trad woman, find a job there, etc.

Option number 2 would be a similar situation but in South East Asia. I could utilize 10k in Vietnam, Thailand, Etc to find a poor slant wife who would actually love me easily. Women are driven by resources, it's just biology, but culture still matters and there are places where hypergamy is not as rampant. I don't know what the fuck you're doing. Sounds like you got lucky gambling with crypto and you're too mentalcel to use it to get a GF. You're absolutely volcel.

I don't value pussy enough to go live in a shit hole.

 

[Deleted member 60]

Because crypto is a scam to enrich the BOGS View attachment 30060

bogs me

 

[San Salvador]

"Mr. Bogdanoff, he bought the dip."
DOMP EET!

 

[BrendioEEE]

I don't value pussy enough to go live in a shit hole.

Sounds like a volcel cope to me my dude. If I could run the volcel game at 10k, I couldn't even imagine if I had 100k, let alone 1 mil. With 300k for example, I know of 3 prime states right now I could buy a house with less than 100k, less than 50k in some circumstances, in decent small town neighborhoods aswell. I wont list off specific areas because just in case I do move here one day I don't want to dox myself. I wouldn't consider these places shitholes at all. Sure they're no big city, but you have you can order stuff on Amazon, if the internet isn't that great, with the money you have it doesn't cost that much relatively to build some infrastructure to get nice internet, nice middle american towns, women there are very not shallow, looksmatching is the norm, etc.

I don't know man when it comes to love having a nice wife, stable family, sounds like you have the options to make some of dreams come reality if you utilized a bit of knowledge, and a bit of know how. You can do similar stuff in Eastern Europe aswell. I know two guys who went to wife abroad route, very happy marriages, they're not the most good looking guys in the world, their wives are not gold diggers, they get treated nicely, one has a child on the way, one got one from eastern europe, and one got one from Asia. I don't know man, sounds like you don't want a girlfriend or a wife or love, which is volcel my dude.

 

[Darthmat]

I don't value pussy enough to go live in a shit hole.

It's always the ones you least suspect are voicel. White and with over a million dollars.

 

[Asianmanletcel]

donate $100 to my wallet address and I'll stop hating it tbh

 

[stuttercel]

rip , it’s over for newcryprocels

 

[Norky]

I'm wary of financial bubbles. They function in a similar way as gambling, there will be those with significant gains and those with significant losses. Inevitably, most bubbles pop due to the excessive avarice and narcissism of speculators. However, it was entertaining to see Soyboys and Normies lose their money by being too late to invest in Crypto.