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Why men desire women more than women desire men

The Judge

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I personally believe that one of the most prominent causes of our condition is the simple fact that men desire women more than women desire men. As for why that is, allow me to break it down:


1. While eggs are limited, sperm is plentiful. A single man is biologically capable of impregnating multiple women, while a single woman can only be impregnated by one man at a time. As a result, our male ancestors were conditioned to protect and breed with as many females as possible in order to prolong the existence of the tribe. On the other end of the spectrum, our female ancestors were conditioned, for the exact same reason, to breed with the men who would sire them the strongest, healthiest offspring. This type of conditioning has been observed in almost every other mammalian species. (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection) While the majority of modern humans can no longer be classified as hunter-gatherers, the sort of evolutionary programming associated with that lifestyle remains in our subconscious. This is why modern men are willing to have sex with almost any woman they come across, while modern women are far more selective.

2. Women are aware that they have a ton of options. Think back to the last time your fridge was full. How did you feel? In my case, I tend to eat way less when I know that there's plenty of food left in there. This exact psychological phenomenon is also present in women. Since they know that there will always be men interested in them no matter what, there isn't a lingering pressure for them to get into a relationship. (Meaning, they can wait as long as they want for Chad to come along.) The majority of women start receiving male attention from the moment they hit puberty. As a result, they become aware of the massive power they have over men. Even shy, ugly, and insecure women will eventually develop massive egos in response to the nonstop validation that comes their way. In fact, it's usually those types of women that tend to be the most entitled and self-absorbed, as they are more likely to be approached than their conventionally attractive counterparts. (Juggernaut Law)

3. Women no longer need men, while men still need women.

Throughout history, men and women have always had different primary motivations for getting involved with the opposite sex. Men sought out companionship (both emotional and sexual), while women sought security. However, in a post-feminist world, being with a man is more of a luxury than a necessity. A modern woman can pay her own bills, purchase a home, etc. What reason would she even have to settle for anything less than perfection? Our (male) ancestors understood this, and were therefore wise enough to limit female independence.

3. Women don't find most men "sexy."


According to this study, (source: https://www.essex.ac.uk/blog/posts/2023/02/02/women-are-more-likely-to-identify-as-bisexual-can-research-into-sexual-arousal-tell-us-why#:~:text=But when it came to,to 0.9% of men), women are more likely to identify as bisexual. And it's only increasing with each passing generation. (source: (https://nypost.com/2023/04/18/gen-z-women-identify-as-bisexual-in-unprecedented-numbers/)

Even without that in mind, it is more than obvious that women are not sexually attracted to most men. Just look at the way they talk about us online, (The whole "man VS bear" debacle being a recent example.), the way they continuously complain about us desiring them. While most single/unmarried man would feel flattered if a random woman ogled them, most single/unmarried women put in that position would feel disgusted. (Unless he's exceptionally good-looking, that is.)

In fact, you will often hear women describe the female form in a flattering light while relentlessly mocking and shaming anything that relates to the male anatomy. This study shows (source: https://www.psypost.org/new-researc...reactions-to-receiving-unsolicited-dick-pics/), that straight women tend to have negative reactions to unsolicited dick pics while gay and bisexual men tend to have positive ones. Even men are more attracted to men than women are.

In general, women would rather be pleasured by a sex toy, another woman, or, in some cases, a dog, than your average man.

Women are only with a man because of what he represents.

I genuinely believe that 99% of women are fundamentally incapable of loving men romantically. Yes, even Chad. Just look at how they talk about their boyfriend/husband when asked about his positive qualities.

"He's a steady earner!"

"He looks so tall next to me!"

Since we know that women are more influenced by their friends than men are, (Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6433147/) it is evident that they will choose their partner based on that merit. If one of them were to say "Oh my god, he's such a LOSER!" all of her friends would agree with her. But if one of them were to say "Oh my god, he's so HOT!" all of her friends would try to compete with her for his attention.

Basically, they want a checklist of desirable traits they can show off and brag about to each-other.

In conclusion...

All of these factors combined explain why the two genders perceive each-other so differently. While men are starving, women are waiting on a gourmet meal.
 
Basically, they want a checklist of desirable traits they can show off and brag about to each-other.
This. Men are a giant flesh purse to women.
 
In general, women would rather be pleasured by a sex toy, another woman, or, in some cases, a dog, than your average man.

And those "sex toys" are also large. Another penis pill and yet again another dog pill.
 
And those "sex toys" are also large.
But when a man develops unrealistic standards as a result of excessive masturbation, he is called a loser.

Classic example of double standards.
 
That's what social media is, women bragging about the guy they bagged or the trip they went on to other women and being jealous of each other. I do not believe anyone with balls unironically uses social media becuase they enjoy it, they simply fear exclusion from womens presence.
 
Yep, and it also all comes down to their sex drive.

As women become more independent, they have less of a need to stay in heterosexual relationships with men. They realize they can form relationships with other women and develop lesbian relationships. This disrupts the gender ratios within the dating world.

In Western countries, there are already fewer young women than young men, which increases competition among men in the dating scene (if every two women are gone from it). This makes women, even those who are ugly and fat more selective, lending credence to the "Juggernaut Law."

Everything is just completely fucked up.

Maybe this is part of the reason why some philosophers argue that women are more chaotic than men, but whatever I guess.
 
Like you said in the OP, it kind of shows how superficial, vain, and materialistic they are.

They see men (well, those who are attractive and/or rich) as shiny diamonds.
 
Like you said in the OP, it kind of shows how superficial, vain, and materialistic they are.

They see men (well, those who are attractive and/or rich) as shiny diamonds.
Or like their handbag or purse.
 
Great thread. The biological reasons are by far the main cause, despite being frequently ignored in these conversations. It all stems from the fact that the female and male reproductive strategies are the opposite of each other, with the female being costly and with a bottlneck, and the male being cheap and with a very high ceiling. On top of this, evolutionary wise, women simply didn't need to be particularly attracted to men, because men already were very attracted to them, and at most the women just needed to tolerate the men and focus on the best ones.

Due to low evolutionary pressure, I'd argue that women don't even have a sexual orientation to begin with, as they have a much lower libido, rarely chase and court, consider most members of the opposite sex to be ugly while their own sex to be beautiful, take much longer to fall in love, fall out of love much more easily, are obsessed with status and what their partner can do for them, very frequently are happier single, etc. Furthermore, they have a very fluid sexuality, and it is increasingly obvious that most of them are bisexual/pansexual, so not only their attraction to men is much lower than vice-versa, but on top of that they're attracted to each other, evidencing that they don't have a sexual orientation at all: whatever sexual drive and needs they have are much lower and also are loose and undirected.

One piece of evidence that examplifies how evolutionary pressures for their attraction to men were weak and unnecessary, is the fact that women very rarily orgasm from vaginal penetration, preferring clitoral stimulation, despite the fact that penetration is what drives reproduction. Just like the vaginal orgasm isn't needed to reproduce, a strong attraction to men wasn't needed either.

Unfortunately, nature came up with a reproduction system that is very unequal and at odds with each other. If pregnancy was easier and producing sperm was costlier, the attraction between men and women would be more equal.


Men should always have all of this in mind and comprehend that the game is rigged from the start. We need to seek alternatives to build a fulfilling life, support each other and understand that the juice is not worth the squeeze. I honestly believe that robot partners and artificial wombs will be a thing sooner than later, and we'll finally be able to break free from this mess.
 
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I wish I could completely eliminate my sex drive. Even with antidepressants, I still find myself being horny 24/7.
Mogs me. I forgot i had a dick when i was on lexapro
 
Easy: evolutionary mechanism
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One piece of evidence that examplifies how evolutionary pressures for their attraction to men were weak and unnecessary, is the fact that women very rarily orgasm from vaginal penetration, preferring clitoral stimulation, despite the fact that penetration is what drives reproduction. Just like the vaginal orgasm isn't needed to reproduce, a strong attraction to men wasn't needed either.
I think most men simply aren't well endowed enough to meet foid requirements here. Even their reproductive anatomy is meant to filter most men as inadequate for sexually pleasuring them. That's why the preferred dildo size is bigger than the average penile length.
 
I think most men simply aren't well endowed enough to meet foid requirements here. Even their reproductive anatomy is meant to filter most men as inadequate for sexually pleasuring them. That's why the preferred dildo size is bigger than the average penile length.

Exactly and this is why evolutionary biology does not make sense. Every man should have at least 7 inches. Every dnokey has a big penis but this is not a thing for us. It does note ven make sense. Why can I not at least have a big penis? I did not fap in days. Sometimes I do not even want to look down. It is like this is all some kind of a joke.
 

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