universallyabhorred
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Disclaimer: Not condoning or encouraging any kind of violence or illegal activity, merely discussing the philosophical implications of justice, in fact I clearly state murder is wrong. Reader discretion advised.
Imagine you are a privileged individual living a normal or extraordinary life, because of your face, height, ethnicity, biological sex, social skills and other such unalterable factors. Now suddenly you are struck down by an incel, what will actually happen if you die, theories about the afterlife aside, it'll be a shock. If the death is instantaneous, then you wouldn't even feel any physical or emotional pain, a simple switch from life to death. If it takes minutes to hours to days, then you would feel some physical pain, but here's what you would get, sympathy and support from everyone in your life who cares about you, lots of free healthcare to save your life, a chance to say goodbye to everyone, even a chance to say your prayers to god, if you are religious.
You might argue it really hurts their friends and family, but here's the thing, friends will quickly get over the death usually, while the family will take weeks or months, eventually they'll just accept it if they are religious that this is how god meant for them to die or through some other coping mechanism, their suffering is limited.
Now let's look at the life of that incel, what did he get? He got years of mistreatment, loneliness, misery, no emotional or social support, plenty of bullying and disrespect from everyone because of unalterable traits, mainly his homely face. His most likely method of death if he's capable would be death at his own hands, what he would consider a luxury to end his suffering, he'd be handing out freely to others if he decides to kill, see the irony. Otherwise he'd just rot and suffer slowly wasting away physically and mentally, his brain literally shrinking due to years of societally imposed ostracism, every day for him would be agony, this same pain would continue for years, most likely his entire life.
When he dies not a single fuck would be given by anyone, including family most of who are either dead or uncaring, friends whom he has none of and of course no spouse because he's an incel. His rotting corpse would only be noticed after it stinks up his tiny studio apartment. He led a lifetime of pain, where he was forced to wage-slave for the benefit of society without having his needs truly met, because humanity denied him love, support, validation and sexual intimacy because of unalterable genetic traits. That seems pretty unjust, what is being done to him, why should someone be handed an amazing life or forced to suffer, because of genetic traits, that don't have any real value, see fisherian runaway.
In order for justice to truly be served and for the scale to be balanced, he'd have to find a way to place his enemies, who have condemned him to this horrid existence, in the same state. We all know what truly matters in life are physical traits and to a lesser degree mental capabilities. So imagine being able to turn all those privileged tall good looking men and women with high confidence and great social skills , into hideous traumatized looney truecel crippled abominations. Imagine them being forced to live the rest of their lives in constant emotional and physical agony. They'd go from popular well liked and having lots of sex to facing ostracization, inceldom, severe depression and suicidal despair, they'd be forced to see the other side of the world for what it is and they'd be unable to handle it. They'd likely end up roping, but first they'd get to live life on nightmare mode, truly a downgrade from their currently easy lives.
Even more ironically wrecking someone's life without intent to kill would always have lower legal repercussions than murder, since it's considered morally superior. Finding a way to do this without breaking any laws, would be even more ideal, I'd never condone any illegal acts. Perhaps something that "accidentally" has disfiguring effects on the face and body, without any functionally harmful effects, to really illustrate the importance of looks, and the suffering ugly men are forced to endure daily, provided no legal repercussions occur.
Imagine you are a privileged individual living a normal or extraordinary life, because of your face, height, ethnicity, biological sex, social skills and other such unalterable factors. Now suddenly you are struck down by an incel, what will actually happen if you die, theories about the afterlife aside, it'll be a shock. If the death is instantaneous, then you wouldn't even feel any physical or emotional pain, a simple switch from life to death. If it takes minutes to hours to days, then you would feel some physical pain, but here's what you would get, sympathy and support from everyone in your life who cares about you, lots of free healthcare to save your life, a chance to say goodbye to everyone, even a chance to say your prayers to god, if you are religious.
You might argue it really hurts their friends and family, but here's the thing, friends will quickly get over the death usually, while the family will take weeks or months, eventually they'll just accept it if they are religious that this is how god meant for them to die or through some other coping mechanism, their suffering is limited.
Now let's look at the life of that incel, what did he get? He got years of mistreatment, loneliness, misery, no emotional or social support, plenty of bullying and disrespect from everyone because of unalterable traits, mainly his homely face. His most likely method of death if he's capable would be death at his own hands, what he would consider a luxury to end his suffering, he'd be handing out freely to others if he decides to kill, see the irony. Otherwise he'd just rot and suffer slowly wasting away physically and mentally, his brain literally shrinking due to years of societally imposed ostracism, every day for him would be agony, this same pain would continue for years, most likely his entire life.
When he dies not a single fuck would be given by anyone, including family most of who are either dead or uncaring, friends whom he has none of and of course no spouse because he's an incel. His rotting corpse would only be noticed after it stinks up his tiny studio apartment. He led a lifetime of pain, where he was forced to wage-slave for the benefit of society without having his needs truly met, because humanity denied him love, support, validation and sexual intimacy because of unalterable genetic traits. That seems pretty unjust, what is being done to him, why should someone be handed an amazing life or forced to suffer, because of genetic traits, that don't have any real value, see fisherian runaway.
In order for justice to truly be served and for the scale to be balanced, he'd have to find a way to place his enemies, who have condemned him to this horrid existence, in the same state. We all know what truly matters in life are physical traits and to a lesser degree mental capabilities. So imagine being able to turn all those privileged tall good looking men and women with high confidence and great social skills , into hideous traumatized looney truecel crippled abominations. Imagine them being forced to live the rest of their lives in constant emotional and physical agony. They'd go from popular well liked and having lots of sex to facing ostracization, inceldom, severe depression and suicidal despair, they'd be forced to see the other side of the world for what it is and they'd be unable to handle it. They'd likely end up roping, but first they'd get to live life on nightmare mode, truly a downgrade from their currently easy lives.
Even more ironically wrecking someone's life without intent to kill would always have lower legal repercussions than murder, since it's considered morally superior. Finding a way to do this without breaking any laws, would be even more ideal, I'd never condone any illegal acts. Perhaps something that "accidentally" has disfiguring effects on the face and body, without any functionally harmful effects, to really illustrate the importance of looks, and the suffering ugly men are forced to endure daily, provided no legal repercussions occur.
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