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Theory Why it is impossible to ascend as a truly blackpilled sub5 male, even if you get extremely lucky

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I believe it is impossible to ascend as a sub5 male once you live your life by the blackpill. Once you realize that it is completely over for you, the logical response is to never show attention to foids because you know it would never get you anywhere. That is where the "issue" arises. Even if you experience a glitch in the matrix or an extreme blackpill exception you won't get anywhere, because in order to have a relationship as a sub8 male, you need to sacrifice something and show some openness to the foid. A truly blackpilled individual would never show even the slightest bit of attention to a foid because he knows that it is futile.

This post doesn't apply to most of this forum, because they would fold at the slightest bit of attention from a foid and start thinking "maybe I am the exception!", but for the based minority who finds it difficult to show the slightest humanity to foids I wonder if it would do us good to do it sometimes. For example, I feel humiliated if I have to show the slightest bit of vulnerablity or humanity to a foid online such as on discord. This is why I think you should stay closed off and never feel humiliated but also possibly avoid the lucky blackpill exception rather than be humiliated multiple times talking to foids but having that slight chance at ascension by luck. There are many blackpill exceptions such as ones we see online or IRL.

In summary, should you always stay closed off and indifferent/hostile to foids because statistically you won't get anywhere, or should you let yourself be humiliated by being nice to them holding out for a statistical anomaly? It it worth it? And to add: am I the only one who finds it a humiliation ritual to ever talk to a foid nicely?
 
read every fucking word. good thread
 
Once you are blackpilled.. there is no turning back.
In summary, should you always stay closed off and indifferent/hostile to foids because statistically you won't get anywhere, or should you let yourself be humiliated by being nice to them holding out for a statistical anomaly? It it worth it? And to add: am I the only one who finds it a humiliation ritual to ever talk to a foid nicely?
Well, i dont think you should be 100% closed off, it may be mentally harmful, not all contact will be humiliating, many times people won´t care about other enough to do anything so having a mundane conversation could satisfy our social need.
 
Savvy guy made a video similar to this. You’ll be tolerated but never truly desired for your presence alone you need to compensate heavily like betabuxx. And crying to a woman or showing vulnerability is stupid you’ll get cucked
 
Savvy guy made a video similar to this. You’ll be tolerated but never truly desired for your presence alone you need to compensate heavily like betabuxx.
Link it if you can find.
And crying to a woman or showing vulnerability is stupid you’ll get cucked
By being "vulnerable" I meant showing any level of kindness beyond basic human decency.
 
Good thread

I don't know if I'm capable of being "vulnerable" with a foid tbh. I just can't imagine one ever caring about me in that way. I would assume anything I would say would be used to make fun of me
 
read every fucking word. good thread
Thank you, what do you think of the problem presented in it?
maybe in 2019. i think it's changed for LTN's
I don't know if this is an exception, this guy is quite handsome even he is short. Probably highly NT too.
 
I'm wary of every single foid i see them as assholes that try to hurt me. I can't understand normies that put fake overly nice persona to survive and maybe just maybe get closer to them. They will never desire or respect you so why bother. You may as well pay $ to a hooker you wouldn't need to waste so much time and money for game of pretence.
 
I don't know if I'm capable of being "vulnerable" with a foid tbh. I just can't imagine one ever caring about me in that way. I would assume anything I would say would be used to make fun of me
That is why I am averse to it. But "vulnerability" to me in this context means just being nice in general. For example in my current state, I would not treat a foid nicely even if she is nice to me because I don't trust it and it won't get me anywhere. So even if there is a glitch in reality and a foid likes me it would not go anywhere.

I just realized the absurdity of this conundrum, JFL. I am really debating myself on this fictional scenario that will never happen.
 
Once you are blackpilled.. there is no turning back.
Even if you “ascended” and I use that term loosely. Because we all know that ascension is one of those very, VERY rare cases where incels are finally no longer incels and are happy in a relationship. It’s difficult to forget the lessons the forum taught you. Take it from me, I was on a four year hiatus and I never forgot the lessons the forum taught me. My view of foids have been permanently screwed for better or worse. For life.
 
I never forgot the lessons the forum taught me. My view of foids have been permanently screwed for better or worse. For life.
That is why I wonder if the blackpill is sometimes a self-fulfilling prophecy. For many normie tier men here it definitely is. Maybe being ignorant of the truth could have given many of us a better chance to ascend.
 
That is why I am averse to it. But "vulnerability" to me in this context means just being nice in general. For example in my current state, I would not treat a foid nicely even if she is nice to me because I don't trust it and it won't get me anywhere. So even if there is a glitch in reality and a foid likes me it would not go anywhere.

I just realized the absurdity of this conundrum, JFL. I am really debating myself on this fictional scenario that will never happen.
I truly do believe it is possible to luck out despite having bad genetics. Inceldom is about probability. The possibility of you ascending isn't necessarily 0 but it's so close to it that it pretty much mind as well.

The reason I don't expect to succeed in dating is the same reason I've never bought a lottery ticket. The odds are too low.
 
I believe it is impossible to ascend as a sub5 male once you live your life by the blackpill. Once you realize that it is completely over for you, the logical response is to never show attention to foids because you know it would never get you anywhere. That is where the "issue" arises. Even if you experience a glitch in the matrix or an extreme blackpill exception you won't get anywhere, because in order to have a relationship as a sub8 male, you need to sacrifice something and show some openness to the foid. A truly blackpilled individual would never show even the slightest bit of attention to a foid because he knows that it is futile.

This post doesn't apply to most of this forum, because they would fold at the slightest bit of attention from a foid and start thinking "maybe I am the exception!", but for the based minority who finds it difficult to show the slightest humanity to foids I wonder if it would do us good to do it sometimes. For example, I feel humiliated if I have to show the slightest bit of vulnerablity or humanity to a foid online such as on discord. This is why I think you should stay closed off and never feel humiliated but also possibly avoid the lucky blackpill exception rather than be humiliated multiple times talking to foids but having that slight chance at ascension by luck. There are many blackpill exceptions such as ones we see online or IRL.

In summary, should you always stay closed off and indifferent/hostile to foids because statistically you won't get anywhere, or should you let yourself be humiliated by being nice to them holding out for a statistical anomaly? It it worth it? And to add: am I the only one who finds it a humiliation ritual to ever talk to a foid nicely?
Didnt read everything op but skimmed through it. But your right and alot of sub5 males get classified as "fakecels" by some ignorant people
 
Good thread, nice post & well articulated
 
Thank you, what do you think of the problem presented in it?

I don't know if this is an exception, this guy is quite handsome even he is short. Probably highly NT too.
I'm among the majority you mentioned, in the sense of conceding when I talk to a woman irl and start having bluepill thoughts like a cuck. Despite this, I agree that it's impossible to sub5 man ascend, I think the same as you, but I can't give up hope completely. I made a thread and I think it's related to the topic

 

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