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Discussion Why is pedophilia seen as the ultimate crime?

dude literally phallometric studies show low attraction to 12 year olds among men
stuff like this?
Phallo

I wouldn't call it "low" adult females get only a slightly higher blood volume response and that's because subconsciously you know you can fuck a fully-grown foid with a 100% size dick without hurting her because she has a giant gaping pussy that's been worked in by chad

This is just nature instinctively going slightly soft to fuck inexperienced mid-pubescent girls (and even moreso for pre-pubescent ones) to avoid doing them damage since your 90% erect dick (for teens) and 70% erect dick (for preteens) is less rigid, more flexible, and basically incapable of doing a "jam it in" like you would on an adult woman, so it would only go in if she's ready and gaping for you

They aren't even halfway done with puberty. they aren't sexually mature.
Yes, pregnancy would be dangerous at that point, shouldn't coom inside their wombs, a disciplined husband would limit himself to non-penetrative outercourse.
 
Pedophiles are mostly leftist, homosexuals, which is enough reason for me to hate them.

That being said, no man is 100% safe from being falsely accused (by an actual child or woman) of being a pedophile. So its one of those crimes that are really tricky to judge and punish.
 
what if they are straight, right-winged, and blackpilled? is there truly any reason to hate them if that’s the case or are you one of those morons that just say “muh pedo bad” regardless?
Then I couldn't care less since I don't have kids anyway and those types are extremely rare.
 
They only deserve the punishment if they harmed a male child. If it's a female child I couldn't give a single fuck and it shouldn't be anything to warrant a sentence.
this, not my sister,/mother/ grandmother, not my problem
Before anyone comes after me I want to say that I am not a pedophile and I do understand how bad pedophilia is

this is a very risky thread and I don't want people to think I support it. I do not. I am simply curious.

I know the pedos on here are gonna mock me for the disclaimer and call me a "soy :soy::soy::soy:" but I'm just making sure people understand I am merely asking a question

Ok with that out of the way my question is this:

why is pedophilia seen as literally the worst thing a human being can do? Like society DESPISES it, so much so that pedophiles get raped and tortured in prison and people love it.

I watch To Catch a Predator sometimes and it's crazy how much people hate pedos. Here is a sample of comments I saw on YouTube under a video about how a child rapist got beaten in prison


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Comment about not wanting to fucking torture people gets no likes, and is ratioed by comment saying abuse is good:
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maybe I'll understand if I ever have kids but right now I don't know why it's worthy of being tortured
Link to video?
 
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In the few instances where the relationship isn't harshly stigmatized they turn out to be fine, just look at at that sneedville loli and her farmer husband, or muhammad and Aisha
I don't agree that a lack of stigma means it will turn out fine.

You could have an abusive husband in a non-stigmatized world who still fucks her harshly and bruises/bleeds her, bad shit can happen.

Charlie Johns and Muhammad were gentlemen lovers to their loli wives Eunice+Aisha but I guess my concern is non-gentleman lovers.

There should be oversights to make sure we don't have asshole husbands abusing their loli wives but I'm not sure how you could do it.
 
stuff like this?
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I wouldn't call it "low" adult females get only a slightly higher blood volume response and that's because subconsciously you know you can fuck a fully-grown foid with a 100% size dick without hurting her because she has a giant gaping pussy that's been worked in by chad

This is just nature instinctively going slightly soft to fuck inexperienced mid-pubescent girls (and even moreso for pre-pubescent ones) to avoid doing them damage since your 90% erect dick (for teens) and 70% erect dick (for preteens) is less rigid, more flexible, and basically incapable of doing a "jam it in" like you would on an adult woman, so it would only go in if she's ready and gaping for you


Yes, pregnancy would be dangerous at that point, shouldn't coom inside their wombs, a disciplined husband would limit himself to non-penetrative outercourse.
Wait, is there a big correlation between pedophilia and impotency? It's what the graph seems to point :feelskek:

Pedophiles are mostly leftist, homosexuals, which is enough reason for me to hate them.

That being said, no man is 100% safe from being falsely accused (by an actual child or woman) of being a pedophile. So its one of those crimes that are really tricky to judge and punish.
At least you realize that supporting gynocentric draconian laws is shooting yourself in the foot as a man.

Yes, having sex with kids is not positive, having sex with anyone you're not married to is not positive for that matter, but we got to a point where even looking at a pic of a naked underage female is considered way worse than many actual violent crimes with innocent victims. It's feminism that brought us to this insanity.

I don't know if I'd even term it feminism at this point because their alarmism is actually bad for the foid population in the long term.
But feminism is bad for women in the long run.

"pseudo-feminism".
I consider feminism to be the real movement that is acting in reality, not some idealized, hypothetical, platonic version of it. Same goes for communism.

Feminism should be about the greater good for foids
Just like communism should be about creating a fair paradise on earth but creates hellholes of genocidal starvation and totalitarism instead. Trying to create a better world through revolutionary mass movements doesn't work.
 
Wait, is there a big correlation between pedophilia and impotency? It's what the graph seems to point :feelskek:
That seems to be the case, yes.

Like basically, a pedophile is getting a smaller boner for a prepubescent girl than a normal man is getting for other adult men.

I think however that this is possibly somewhat skewed by the amount of homosexuals in the adult-inclined population.

IE you're probably not getting 4cc erections at adult men, but there are enough men getting 20cc erections at adult men (the gays in the population) to create that 4cc average.

Also note that the right graph is for ACTUAL pedophilia (ie having an overwhelming preference for pre-pubescent girls that causes you depression) not the 99% cases of so-called pedophilia which actually aren't pedophilia.

So I think that's more along the lines of "there's a correlation between extreme depression and impotency". By nature of the diagnosis you're either free+depressed or else you acted out and got put in jail and getting jailed tends to depress people so either way you're depressed and low-T to fulfill a pedophilia diagnosis.

having sex with kids is not positive, having sex with anyone you're not married to is not positive for that matter
I've warmed to the idea of marriage but I don't consider it this absolute determinant of what is or isn't positive TBH, I can see a sexual encounter prior to a marriage being positive too.

we got to a point where even looking at a pic of a naked underage female is considered way worse than many actual violent crimes with innocent victims. It's feminism that brought us to this insanity. But feminism is bad for women in the long run.
I would term it (((pseudo-femininsm))) because this insanity actually harms girls+women meaning it can't be legit feminism.

IMO genuine feminism by it's nature MUST be good for girls in the long run, meaning it can't be true feminism if it's this bullshit masquerading as it these days.

I consider feminism to be the real movement that is acting in reality, not some idealized, hypothetical, platonic version of it. Same goes for communism.
The problem here is you have groups like "Antifa" claiming to be antifascist when actually promoting fascist themself.

Just because they're a real movement acting in reality does not compel us to agree with how they label themselves.

Black Lives Matter too, for example, doesn't aim at the largest cause of black deaths: black-on-black crime, so they too are hypocrites and are basically "pseudo-BLM".

Just like communism should be about creating a fair paradise on earth but creates hellholes of genocidal starvation and totalitarism instead.
Communism is still about that intention, it just fails to achieve that intention because of it's flawed methodology.

It is still however at least what it labels itself as, except of course when it's leaders squirrel away money instead of sharing it.

Trying to create a better world through revolutionary mass movements doesn't work.
I won't totally rule out the possibility of it working but I def won't say we should assume it's the best strategy.

I don't know what the best strategy is tho tbh
 
Feminism, simple as. Late 1800s/early 1900s feminists completely changed sexual attitudes in the West. Also without a doubt, shows like Catch a Predator have increased the hysteria one hundred fold, and social media where violent impotent fantasies can be shouted out into the public square have increased the hysteria one thousand fold over that. The simple fact alone that attraction to adolescents is lumped in with babyfuckers is proof of how retarded our attitudes are.

Actual pedos can get the rope but we are treating normal men with normal desires like horrific monsters and that is unacceptably retarded.
 
The simple fact alone that attraction to adolescents is lumped in with babyfuckers is proof of how retarded our attitudes are.
The attempt to do this comes from both ends: the actual babyfuckers LOVE the idea of normy guys getting lumped in with them, that's why a lot of the more extreme pedophiles (especially the nepiophiles) will encourage broad normy-like brushes in misapplying the pedophilia term to non-pedophiles because they want allies/camo

Actual pedos can get the rope
No, that is excessive misandry.
IMO pedophiles have a fixation on their paraphilia that could possibly be rehabilitated.
They are prob just grossed out by stuff like pubes/menstruation and the overall degeneracy of roasties would further compound revulsion.
They're hard issues to get around, you even have normy guys who don't want to look at female genitals or lick them.

I think the cure is just a gradual progression of media stimulation where you ratchet them closer and closer to thicc pubescent girls who remain beautiful/neotenic and non-degenerate.
IE art could prob cure pedophilia by gradually opening their affections to mid-pubescent and maybe even post-pubescent girls
 
dude i'd rather fuck an 18 year old over a 12 year old. 18 year olds are extremely attractive. I find girls most attractive at 18, but 12?!?! they aren't attractive at all.

finding 18 year olds hot is super normal among older men, but many men might not admit it because age gaps are stigmatized, but finding 12 year olds attractive is quite unusual. they're underdeveloped while 18 year olds reached full sexual maturity.
why is 18 your magic number?
it's not even the age of consent in most places, just the number the government decided was the cutoff point to consent to being in porn.
Very sus.
 
why is 18 your magic number?
it's not even the age of consent in most places, just the number the government decided was the cutoff point to consent to being in porn.
Very sus.
I mean finding a 17 year old attractive is normal but not 12
 
It’s usually not ( except some foids see it as a form of power and turns them on) but schools are working to prevent it. Also, it’s more understandable if it’s done by another child that can’t make rational choices yet
"rational choices"

What the fuck is a rational choice? And why can't kids make them? This just sounds like some buzzword. @Wizard32 do you agree "rational" is used in a buzzword like manner here. Similar to how people use the phrase "natural"?
 
I don’t give a fuck if you wanna fuck a 17 year old or some shit but if you fuck a 5 year old? To the guillotines you go
Who gives a flying fuck? You make tons of threads about how humans are garbage and yet you're still such an empathetic cuck
 
Because it's a socially acceptable license to go full retard violent ape and no one is allowed to question it, lest that violent ape energy be directed at them.
 
pedophilia is when is not a teen or adolescent; like i said previously, most teens (14, 15, 16 and 17) at my country already give head and have sex with multiple men of any age (most of them know how to use pills and let the guys cum inside them, they are whores basically), they themselves expose their body count on social media and every straight men are attracted to them, but they dont admit because of social stigma, so they consider these teens to be child to cope with their desires, even though a adolescent is not a child on kindergarten and not pedophilia; the conversation can not be done, because people will always subvert the real meaning of pedophilia to fit their narrative that adolescentes are children, which is dumb, annoying and awful. Most of pedophile hunters "catch" guys that not even are pedophiles and the hunters themselves just like the guys they catch, bunch of hipocrisy.
 
I mean finding a 17 year old attractive is normal but not 12
It is normal to be attracted to girls of both ages Ed, you know this.

You are confusing actual normalcy (what the average guy truly feels) with social norms (what the average guy is permitted to express by oppressive society)

"rational choices"
What the fuck is a rational choice?
Rationality is more of a continuum than a discrete. One is "more rational" or "less rational" compared to other markers.

There is a problem with just saying half of everyone is 'irrational' and half of everyone is 'rational' though.

There's no such thing as perfect irrationality or perfect rationality, one can simply improve and become more rational with time - though it's not a guarantee one will.

And why can't kids make them? This just sounds like some buzzword.
It basically is.

A realist would speak in terms like "less rational choices" or "more rational choices".

A realistic observation is that there is a tendency to accrue knowledge and skills over time that lead to superior decisions being made and that someone with more time to accrue these virtues will make superior choices.

There is never any place to draw a line of no-to-everything switching to yes-to-everything IMO though


@Wizard32 do you agree "rational" is used in a buzzword like manner here. Similar to how people use the phrase "natural"?
Yes although I am guilty of overusing these terms too so I have some humble tolerance when criticizing others of it.

Also why you can torture farm animals their entire lives but it's wrong to eat cats/dogs
because I like to LARP that cute puppies are more intelligent than the pigs I eat even though I'm pretty sure pigs are smarter
 
Who gives a flying fuck? You make tons of threads about how humans are garbage and yet you're still such an empathetic cuck
The only humans I won’t hate is children
 
Former

the latter varies by country or era
So anyone who reaches puberty is deserving of hatred? I supposed that makes sense, since sexuality is evil, as the supreme gentleman stated.
 
IncelTear will probaly avoid showing the spoiler.
 
So anyone who reaches puberty is deserving of hatred? I supposed that makes sense, since sexuality is evil, as the supreme gentleman stated.
People over 18 I hate. 14-17 i don’t hate too much but I don’t mind killing them

I won’t hurt anyone under 14
 
People over 18 I hate. 14-17 i don’t hate too much but I don’t mind killing them

I won’t hurt anyone under 14
now you're backpedalling

your age 14 limit is extremely arbitrary. it has nothing to do with "childhood" at all

also, you won't hurt anyone. you will just give your judgment on those who do. but you're just a hypocrite. men in the past fucked below 14 many times, and nothing bad happened.
 
Only the elites/celebrities get to enjoy the fun of pedophilla (Jeff Epstein) island. While wage cucks get tossed in jail for trying to engage in the ultimate sex experience
 
now you're backpedalling

your age 14 limit is extremely arbitrary. it has nothing to do with "childhood" at all

also, you won't hurt anyone. you will just give your judgment on those who do. but you're just a hypocrite. men in the past fucked below 14 many times, and nothing bad happened.
If they married someone under 14 they didn’t consummate it until she was older
 
Beceause to f kids they(the normie hive mind) assume that you can’t get it anywhere else, which shows you are breaking societal role of outcast, or role as betabux for used up stds. If you rob the cradle as it were, you are taking away their ability to Create a sexual social order. If you think it’s about anything else then you are in la la land, and lot of these normies participate in similar ways and just virtue signal. Why do you think they always joke that ped have to have ultra small condoms :feelsthink:
 
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13 yo girl is not a children.
Pedophilia = non-chad fucking under 18 girl
 
13 yo girl is not a children.
Pedophilia = non-chad fucking under 18 girl
normies think banging 18 year olds is pedophilia
 
Sexually abusing young children messes them up, destroys their beautiful happy innocent childhood and fucks them up for life. That's almost like taking their life IMHO.

And why? So some fucked up deviant can get his sexual jollies.

Stoning would be too good for them.
 
Sexually abusing young children messes them up, destroys their beautiful happy innocent childhood and fucks them up for life. That's almost like taking their life IMHO.

And why? So some fucked up deviant can get his sexual jollies.

Stoning would be too good for them.
This is why it's bad to do it to little boys.
 
Because non-pedos are the majority of the population, democracy is the dictatorship of the majority, so that's why it's considered bad and illegal.
 
Because it destroys children’s mental health and can seriously mess them up later in life. Also, children are seen as super innocent
Bullying in school can do the same thing but that gets applauded and it's good for laughs for some people.
 
Sexually abusing young children messes them up, destroys their beautiful happy innocent childhood and fucks them up for life. That's almost like taking their life IMHO.

And why? So some fucked up deviant can get his sexual jollies.

Stoning would be too good for them.
High iq

Childhood is the best time of life. I couldn’t care less about what happens to a teenager, but little kids? That’s too fuckin far.
 
Because it destroys children’s mental health and can seriously mess them up later in life. Also, children are seen as super innocent
Most children are innocent, but not all. I was bullied and picked on by children. Not only as a child, but even as a teen and young adult. Some childre are genuine assholes and shitheads
 
Bullying in school can do the same thing but that gets applauded and it's good for laughs for some people.
Not as damaging and it’s less acceptable if it’s done by an adult rather than another child
 
Not as damaging and it’s less acceptable if it’s done by an adult rather than another child
bullying is more damaging. it takes place over a longer time period

adult-child sex is not inherently traumatizing, according to the rind study.
Most children are innocent, but not all. I was bullied and picked on by children. Not only as a child, but even as a teen and young adult. Some childre are genuine assholes and shitheads
children are not innocent at all.
High iq

Childhood is the best time of life. I couldn’t care less about what happens to a teenager, but little kids? That’s too fuckin far.
i couldnt care less about what happens to little kids.
 

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