Discussion Why inceldom is extremely dangerous.

[Mik_TFL]

The recent survey asked if incels were dangerous, however I seemed to have misread the question and interpreted it as "is inceldom dangerous?"

no tldr on this one, complex ideas just require that much words.

I hereby lay my reasoning, on why the current form of inceldom, coupled with the current socio-economic situation in the west and the sharp rise of hypergamy together make for an extremely dangerous combination.

The basis for my reasoning can be mostly explained in this video (inb4 jordan peterson is a cuck.. yeah I know, only the info is relevant):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3XYHPAwBzE
tldr on the video:

1. crime arises in places where relative differences on status/income are steep
2. men turn to violence when they see no other way of climbing the status ladder
3. men climb the status ladder because that's how they get access to women

Now here is the interesting bit, because of social media and online dating, the relative difference in the success dating market is absurdly high, it is no exaggeration to say that we are all competing against gigachad... that's #1.

The rise of videos/photos and social media like instagram have made it so that looks have taken almost all the weight in the LMS trifecta almost making them a minimum requirement, that is, where before you could make up for looks with money and status, this is no longer the case these days, your personality and intelligence also mean nothing these days, and since looks are mostly set by genetics, that makes for point #2.

Some key insights are ,ironically, the bluepill and redpill:

The bluepill is the promise that you can climb that status ladder with hard work and get access to women. (point #3)​

The redpill is the promise that you can cheat your way to get access to women (i.e. PUAs).​

The blackpill is, of course about realizing that this BS in the current dating market.​

So that gets us to the current situation of inceldom:

Millions of men have been forced by their genetics into inceldom without a way out, one of their most basic incentives to participate in society is gone.​

They are forced to see how a small amount of chads get all of the women.​

Day in and day out they are treated like subhumans just for their looks and shunned by society for not fulfilling women's insane unrealistic standards​

​

When I say that inceldom is dangerous, this is what I mean, the current situation will cause one of 3 possible outcomes:

• A massive amount of incel suicides (the rise of which we are actually beginning to see)
• Men abandoning society and just giving up... aka the rise of NEETs (which we are also seeing)
• A small minority of men that will turn to violence (ER)

Now, let's focus on the violent minority for a second, because this is where the REAL danger comes from.

One thing to note, is that all of what I mentioned doesn't require any active spreading of the blackpill, most men will eventually become blackpill on their own.​

This means, that even if forums like these get banned, or google/facebook/reddit try to do speech policing, it will be impossible for any government or organisation to prevent the blackpilling of men.​

​

Now here is the punchline you've all been waiting for:

What happens when a low iq idiot or a mentally unstable person goes ER? Well, he goes and kills 5 to 15 people, that's it.​

Any jackass can rent a van and go on a killing spree, and any (American) idiot can get a gun and murder a bunch of people.​

An idiot with some money might be able to go paddock... but still, all of these killing sprees are fairly low iq and not particularly effective.​

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BUT , take a look at what I marked on red... soon, it will be high iq people becoming mass murderers. This is a new phenomena and extremely alarming.​

A person with my knowledge and $100k could easily kill 10'000 people, I'm talking mass poisonings of water supply lines, autonomous drones that use face detection to shoot people, systematic destruction of key infrastructure... Hell, even triggering a war between countries isn't out of the question.​

A mid iq terrorist might put a pressure cooker bomb on a backpack and leave it on some crowded place, a high iq one would bury 3 of those 1 week in advance in some closed area and then another 3 at the choke point on the exit with a 90 second delay to the first 3...​

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I suspect that high IQ blackpilled individuals that go ER will not be doing it against particular groups of people, but against human nature itself, that's why their killing will be efficient and indiscriminate.​

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There is nothing any government can do to prevent this shit... things are going to get really bad over the next 10 years

 

[Deleted member 18912]

Based.
I read it all the way.
It put a smile on my face.

 

[HueHueBr]

Myth. A forum like this diminishes the cases of RE, because all the violence that some freaks would like to spill over into the real world ends up being spilled over here in the virtual world, where no one gets hurt. It is similar to what violent games do in spilling out all the youthful violence in electronic games where no one gets hurt.

The only ones really hurt by inceldom are women who end up stranded alone if the incels develop into mgtow.

 

[tujavie]

Incels, despite being 13% of the population, commit 50% of the violent crimes.

 

[Mik_TFL]

Myth. A forum like this diminishes the cases of ER, because all the violence that some freaks would like to spill over into the real world ends up being spilled over here in the virtual world, where no one gets hurt. It is similar to what violent games do in spilling out all the youthful violence in electronic games where no one gets hurt.

The only ones really hurt by inceldom are women who end up stranded alone if the incels develop into mgtow.

Probably true, but that only makes it worse... When things start going south, the media, governments and social platforms will try to get rid of places like this, making the situation worse in the process

 

[taurazi]

A small minority of men that will turn to violence (ER)

I don't actively want all foids and normies to die but a large portion of them deserve to.

It's kind of amazing that millions of people get up, go to work, go home as incels every day but there's only maybe 1 ER attack a year. Shows how much control there is.

 

[HueHueBr]

Probably true, but that only makes it worse... When things start going south, the media, governments and social platforms will try to get rid of places like this, making the situation worse in the process

I am Brazilian. Censorship here is much worse than in the United States. Even so, there are also incel communities, incel youtube channels, etc.

 

[Mik_TFL]

It's kind of amazing that millions of people get up, go to work, go home as incels every day but there's only maybe 1 ER attack a year. Shows how much control there is.

I believe this is because most people are bluepilled, most people really think they'll get to have a family and a loving wife if they work hard enough. One that magic spell is broken, the whole thing is going to come down on fire. I wouldn't be surprised if that number became 500 attacks per year with a minimum of 50 deaths over the next 10 years

Incels, despite being 13% of the population, commit 50% of the violent crimes.

Did you see the criminal incel collage that was posted a couple days ago?

 

[Dionysus]

Incels, despite being 13% of the population, commit 50% of the violent crimes.

 

[Justdone]

94 guests are weary but interested in the blackipill. They make it worse when they shut down places that discuss the blackipill and deny it entirely. People read into it more and more.

 

[Mik_TFL]

94 guests are weary but interested in the blackipill. They make it worse when they shut down places that discuss the blackipill and deny it entirely. People read into it more and more.

I think it's important people get blackpilled after high-school, before that, it might damage their development, but afterwards people deserve to know the truth, they deserve to know what they are getting into.

 

[Justdone]

I think it's important people get blackpilled after high-school, before that, it might damage their development, but afterwards people deserve to know the truth, they deserve to know what they are getting into.

The blackpill is entering into the real world. They gonna be aware real soon the more it’s talked about and argued against its becoming scientific news.

 

[azakhan]

Of course it does. It's like you went to some poor african village where people are starving in your limo, eat whole box of McDonalds nuggets, light your cigar with 100$ bill and then expect africans to be cool with it. That's basically what society does to us. They shove sex everywhere and then expect people who can't get it to just ignore this because we are not entitled to sex. Fucking bullshit. Still I do not condone violance because it won't get us anywhere. Our best bet is moneymaxxing and just waiting for realistic robo waifus with advanced AI.

 

[Mik_TFL]

Our best bet is moneymaxxing and just waiting for realistic robo waifus with advanced AI.

I work in robotics and AI, VR waifus are at least some 10-15 years out. Robo waifus more like 20-30.
Locationmaxxing might be our best choice. Did you see the tinder experiment with St. Blackops in Nairobi, Kenya?

 

[Deleted member 17811]

The blackpill is accepting that dating is rigged, and relationships aren't worth having.
It is acceptance that the world is fucked. honk honk basically

and as mik_tfl said, this is the cause of ERs (Praise be upon them)

and about that multiple bomb thing, not gonna happen. the pigs would be onto you as soon as you purchased the materials

 

[azakhan]

Locationmaxxing might be our best choice. Did you see the tinder experiment with St. Blackops in Nairobi, Kenya?

Yeah I do plan to move to Japan or China in my late 20s and hopefully find luck there. Shame how slow our progress is. I always assumed by 2020 we will have super realistic VR games like in Ready Player One but we are probably 10 years if not more away from that.

 

[jerrycan dan]

I don't actively want all foids and normies to die but a large portion of them deserve to.

It's kind of amazing that millions of people get up, go to work, go home as incels every day but there's only maybe 1 ER attack a year. Shows how much control there is.

I think without the food surpluses, all the porn, all the video games, all the surveillance/DNA testing and everything else that practically didn't exist 100 years ago in a lot of places that were unstable, people would probably chimp out

 

[Mik_TFL]

Yeah I do plan to move to Japan or China in my late 20s and hopefully find luck there. Shame how slow our progress is. I always assumed by 2020 we will have super realistic VR games like in Ready Player One but we are probably 10 years if not more away from that.

In part, the problem is that the display race in smartphones didn't continue, (because anything above WQHD is just unnecessary on a 6 inch screen) and that AMD just hasn't been able to compete at the high end of GPU's, so NVIDIA hasn't really pushed any boundaries, they are just cashing in on their market dominance... We need about 3x the current gpu power, as well as some advances in software (which have actually been going ok...). The AI part of it is a completely different ball game, progress is being made in all areas, but it'll take a while before anything resembling a realistic waifu becomes reality.

Why China? there's literally way less females than males there. Go to some 3rd world shithole instead.

 

[worstcel]

I think it's important people get blackpilled after high-school, before that, it might damage their development, but afterwards people deserve to know the truth, they deserve to know what they are getting into.

I think it's important if people stay bluepilled after high school, maybe even their whole life. It brings false hope, which in turn gives the average bluepiller motivation, and therefore have higher success rates on average than a blackpilled incel.

 

[Ropemaxx]

I think it's important if people stay bluepilled after high school, maybe even their whole life. It brings false hope, which in turn gives the average bluepiller motivation, and therefore have higher success rates on average than a blackpilled incel.

Yeah i mean a bluepilled worldview is 100 times less painful then a blackpilled one. It's just that it's hard to lie to yourself and deny the blackpill when it is too real.

 

[Mik_TFL]

I think without the food surpluses, all the porn, all the video games, all the surveillance/DNA testing and everything else that practically didn't exist 100 years ago in a lot of places that were unstable, people would probably chimp out

I think the opposite is truth. Surviving gives you a purpose, something to do. Having to go out and interact with other people/animal/nature keeps you sane. It is because people can live shut in their house all day that they get the time to develop their inner murderer. Boredom is a lethal motivator to get you crazy.

 

[azakhan]

Why China? there's literally way less females than males there. Go to some 3rd world shithole instead.

I heard it's easy for white people to find a wife there. Although I don't know if Easter Euros should consider themselves white.

 

[Emba]

I'm not dangerous!

I'm, "mostly harmless."

 

[jerrycan dan]

I think the opposite is truth. Surviving gives you a purpose, something to do. Having to go out and interact with other people/animal/nature keeps you sane. It is because people can live shut in their house all day that they get the time to develop their inner murderer. Boredom is a lethal motivator to get you crazy.

Interesting take, honestly you might be right, it'll be interesting to see what 21st century high IQ killers spawned by having nothing left to lose via boredom instead of deprivation can achieve.

 

[Mik_TFL]

I think it's important if people stay bluepilled after high school, maybe even their whole life. It brings false hope, which in turn gives the average bluepiller motivation, and therefore have higher success rates on average than a blackpilled incel.

@Ropemaxx
Sooner or later the blackpill will hit, there might be an incentive to push the bluepilledness until finishing college (for those getting a higher education), but once you enter the workforce it is imperative you know about the blackpill, so that you can decide what you'll do with your life given the new constraints.

You might take that high paying job offer that requires you to move to some oil rig in the ocean for some time, you might take the risk to move to a 3rd world shithole in look for better chances and start a business there, you might actually go backpacking around the world, since saving for a house for your never to exist family isn't a concern anymore.

and about that multiple bomb thing, not gonna happen. the pigs would be onto you as soon as you purchased the materials

You mean pressure cookers / pipes, a couple micro-controllers, batteries, a relay, some small light bulbs, some nuts /bolts /ball bearings, an air pump, a sponge and gasoline?
How on earth would they be onto you?

One could go as far as splitting water into oxygen and hydrogen and making a bomb with that if we are being that paranoid
It took me like 10 seconds to come up with that.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

High IQ thread. Its no secret that the condition you cited in your post are what allow radical militiant groups to form and grow. Incels make the perfect soldiers. Have very little regard for their own lives, can be trusted to accomplish goals provided they are within their skillset, and can't be bought or blackmailed due to lack of a family. Perhaps this is why the FBI watches us. I would like to add that one of our primary goals should be to convert as many suicides into homicides, particularly against those who are most responsible for the destruction of all the cultural values that would've let us ascend.

A person with my knowledge and $100k could easily kill 10'000 people, I'm talking mass poisonings of water supply lines, autonomous drones that use face detection to shoot people, systematic destruction of key infrastructure... Hell, even triggering a war between countries isn't out of the question.A mid iq terrorist might put a pressure cooker bomb on a backpack and leave it on some crowded place, a high iq one would bury 3 of those 1 week in advance in some closed area and then another 3 at the choke point on the exit with a 90 second delay to the first 3...

I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen any roadside IED attacks in this country or in europe. All you have to do plant a bomb in some trash along a busy highway and the moment a target comes by detonate it. Other options could be using improvised mortars or sniper rifles to attack critical infrastructure like air traffic radar, electrical substations and power plants, water treatment plants, fiber optic comms lines, cell towers, etc. You could paralyze a city with a few men doing this around the clock.

I suspect that high IQ blackpilled individuals that go ER will not be doing it against particular groups of people, but against human nature itself, that's why their killing will be efficient and indiscriminate.

I believe a majority of the attacks will be targeted towards certain groups.

You mean pressure cookers / pipes, a couple micro-controllers, batteries, a relay, some small light bulbs, some nuts /bolts /ball bearings, an air pump, a sponge and gasoline?
How on earth would they be onto you?

One could go as far as splitting water into oxygen and hydrogen and making a bomb with that if we are being that paranoid
It took me like 10 seconds to come up with that.

Erythinol, 98%+ sulphric acid and white fuming nitric acid. Much more efficient. The first two can be bought OTC and processed easily. Just need a good source for bulk 68% nitric acid and a distillation setup.

 

[Mik_TFL]

Erythinol, 98%+ sulphric acid and white fuming nitric acid. Much more efficient. The first two can be bought OTC and processed easily. Just need a good source for bulk 68% nitric acid and a distillation setup.

I specifically wanted to come up with an example that didn't involve buying stuff a normal person wouldn't buy, you are obviously right tho, anything involving any amount of nitro compounds is bound to be much more explosive.

Its no secret that the condition you cited in your post are what allow radical militiant groups to form and grow. Incels make the perfect soldiers.

I don't think there'll be much cooperation between incels, I suspect most of the big attacks will be from lone wolf types. Inceldom is closely knitted with loneliness. It takes a lot to abandon your humanity and become a mass murderer, it is the ultimate detachment from society, a total rejection of your own species and an act against your genetic programming.

The scary part is that the source for mass murdering incels isn't centralized like with terrorist or militant groups, the blackpill permeates all of western civilization, you can't track them or shut down the bases of operations or negotiate with them, there's nothing the FBI or any organization could do to prevent this. What the fuck are they going to do? track ugly people ? good luck with that.

 

[azakhan]

inb4 fbicel is monitoring this thread

 

[Kardacel]

Just K/Dmaxx bro

 

[Rippa]

The recent survey asked if incels were dangerous, however I seemed to have misread the question and interpreted it as "is inceldom dangerous?"

no tldr on this one, complex ideas just require that much words.

I hereby lay my reasoning, on why the current form of inceldom, coupled with the current socio-economic situation in the west and the sharp rise of hypergamy together make for an extremely dangerous combination.

The basis for my reasoning can be mostly explained in this video (inb4 jordan peterson is a cuck.. yeah I know, only the info is relevant):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3XYHPAwBzE
tldr on the video:

1. crime arises in places where relative differences on status/income are steep
2. men turn to violence when they see no other way of climbing the status ladder
3. men climb the status ladder because that's how they get access to women

Now here is the interesting bit, because of social media and online dating, the relative difference in the success dating market is absurdly high, it is no exaggeration to say that we are all competing against gigachad... that's #1.

The rise of videos/photos and social media like instagram have made it so that looks have taken almost all the weight in the LMS trifecta almost making them a minimum requirement, that is, where before you could make up for looks with money and status, this is no longer the case these days, your personality and intelligence also mean nothing these days, and since looks are mostly set by genetics, that makes for point #2.

Some key insights are ,ironically, the bluepill and redpill:

The bluepill is the promise that you can climb that status ladder with hard work and get access to women. (point #3)​

The redpill is the promise that you can cheat your way to get access to women (i.e. PUAs).​

The blackpill is, of course about realizing that this BS in the current dating market.​

So that gets us to the current situation of inceldom:

Millions of men have been forced by their genetics into inceldom without a way out, one of their most basic incentives to participate in society is gone.​

They are forced to see how a small amount of chads get all of the women.​

Day in and day out they are treated like subhumans just for their looks and shunned by society for not fulfilling women's insane unrealistic standards​

​

When I say that inceldom is dangerous, this is what I mean, the current situation will cause one of 3 possible outcomes:

• A massive amount of incel suicides (the rise of which we are actually beginning to see)
• Men abandoning society and just giving up... aka the rise of NEETs (which we are also seeing)
• A small minority of men that will turn to violence (ER)

Now, let's focus on the violent minority for a second, because this is where the REAL danger comes from.

One thing to note, is that all of what I mentioned doesn't require any active spreading of the blackpill, most men will eventually become blackpill on their own.​

This means, that even if forums like these get banned, or google/facebook/reddit try to do speech policing, it will be impossible for any government or organisation to prevent the blackpilling of men.​

​

Now here is the punchline you've all been waiting for:

What happens when a low iq idiot or a mentally unstable person goes ER? Well, he goes and kills 5 to 15 people, that's it.​

Any jackass can rent a van and go on a killing spree, and any (American) idiot can get a gun and murder a bunch of people.​

An idiot with some money might be able to go paddock... but still, all of these killing sprees are fairly low iq and not particularly effective.​

​

BUT , take a look at what I marked on red... soon, it will be high iq people becoming mass murderers. This is a new phenomena and extremely alarming.​

A person with my knowledge and $100k could easily kill 10'000 people, I'm talking mass poisonings of water supply lines, autonomous drones that use face detection to shoot people, systematic destruction of key infrastructure... Hell, even triggering a war between countries isn't out of the question.​

A mid iq terrorist might put a pressure cooker bomb on a backpack and leave it on some crowded place, a high iq one would bury 3 of those 1 week in advance in some closed area and then another 3 at the choke point on the exit with a 90 second delay to the first 3...​

​

I suspect that high IQ blackpilled individuals that go ER will not be doing it against particular groups of people, but against human nature itself, that's why their killing will be efficient and indiscriminate.​

​

There is nothing any government can do to prevent this shit... things are going to get really bad over the next 10 years

The danger lies in all of these men combined(men massively becoming NEETs, ERs and suicides).This number will only steeply rise as time goes on, and there will be a lack of a workforce that females CAN'T fulfill, automation isn't advancing fast enough either to catch up in time before the apocalypse happens.We are becoming more and more prevalent in society and in mainstream media our influence spreads MORE and more with each passing day, the Beta rebellion, irrelevant of whether or not it will be violent, is inevitable.

 

[Mik_TFL]

inb4 fbicel is monitoring this thread

What the hell can they do?

The only thing that could stop the future I'm describing, is if any girl within the social circle of the incels descending into madness decides that maybe he is worth giving a chance. It takes years to go down such a path, any girl giving that person a honest dating opportunity, one in which he isn't measured by the angles o his face, but by the strength of their character... that's all it would take to stop this.
But we know what the chances of that happening are

 

[Player]

Myth. A forum like this diminishes the cases of RE, because all the violence that some freaks would like to spill over into the real world ends up being spilled over here in the virtual world, where no one gets hurt. It is similar to what violent games do in spilling out all the youthful violence in electronic games where no one gets hurt.

The only ones really hurt by inceldom are women who end up stranded alone if the incels develop into mgtow.

"""""Develop"""""
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[NoCopeNoHope]

I specifically wanted to come up with an example that didn't involve buying stuff a normal person wouldn't buy, you are obviously right tho, anything involving any amount of nitro compounds is bound to be much more explosive.


I don't think there'll be much cooperation between incels, I suspect most of the big attacks will be from lone wolf types. Inceldom is closely knitted with loneliness. It takes a lot to abandon your humanity and become a mass murderer, it is the ultimate detachment from society, a total rejection of your own species and an act against your genetic programming.

The scary part is that the source for mass murdering incels isn't centralized like with terrorist or militant groups, the blackpill permeates all of western civilization, you can't track them or shut down the bases of operations or negotiate with them, there's nothing the FBI or any organization could do to prevent this. What the fuck are they going to do? track ugly people ? good luck with that.

Drain cleaner, sugar substitute and concrete floor stripper/cleaner sound normal to me m8.

Most direct incel violence (ER, Alek M.) will be disorganized. Most incels aren't truly blackpilled, so they will be recruited by other actors, namely radical political organizations and possibly organized crime. The ones that are blackpilled might still join these groups, or form their own cells. And yes, incel shooters can't be stopped or prevented. But the damage they do may be minimized compared to organized structures.

And I don't think mass murdering is a rejection of your species. All you are doing is what chad does to other inferior males to a much smaller degree. The shooter just takes the concept foward a few thousand years. Its one of the most human things a male can do. Kill your breeding competition. But I digress.

 

[Mik_TFL]

And yes, incel shooters can't be stopped or prevented. But the damage they do may be minimized compared to organized structures

I think the real damage will be the media spreading the blackpill. What happens when an incel breaks Paddock's high score? ... I'll tell you what: hundreds of copycats.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I think the real damage will be the media spreading the blackpill. What happens when an incel breaks Paddock's high score? ... I'll tell you what: hundreds of copycats.

It'll be very difficult to beat Paddock on a solo gun only strat. Guy had the best possible setup. If he had bought some kind of beltfed in .30 cal or higher, he could've broke triple digits. 95% of killings that reach triple digits however are multiplayer affairs with some explosives dropped in for good measure. Either way, if something like that happens, expect this site to get shut down, Sarge to get noknocked by a SWAT team, and certain posters here given the domestic terrorist treatment.

 

[Mik_TFL]

certain posters here given the domestic terrorist treatment

Hoping we don't end up in that list

 

[Speed]

High IQ thread. The spreading of the blackpill is inevitable. Keep telling all these men that they don't mean shit because "The future is female!" while simultaneously expecting them to uphold a society that consistently demonstrates that doesn't give a shit about them(Male suicide rates, male homelessness, etc....) and tell me how that works out long term. Men aren't wired to sit down and take it without acting.

I already know the economic consequences will be severe as many men are opting out of trades that are necessary((HVAC, Plumber, Electrician, Mechanic, Construction workers) due to sheer NEET apathy and women while they may be capable of picking up the slack they simply AREN'T. Women in the 20-29 range are already out earning and typically have higher education their male counterparts and the numbers will only get bigger as men wake up and realize "WTF am I even trying for". Hopefully I haven't roped by the time shit really starts hitting the fan.

 

[TheMinimalist]

Wow. Very high iq and high effort post. Now that you mention it, it's easy to learn how to cause some real damage effectively. Any person with high iq and enough resources can make something very terrible happen. Where I disagree, is the point that many high iq ppl with start murdering randomly. Although there have been cases of extremely intelligent criminals and serial killers in the past and now, the chances of it happening is very low, and these ppl often have some kind of mental disorders.

 

[Mik_TFL]

Although there have been cases of extremely intelligent criminals and serial killers in the past and now, the chances of it happening is very low, and these ppl often have some kind of mental disorders.

Well, here is the thing, 10 years ago, a high iq individual with a fit body, a half decent personality and a promising career would almost certainly be able to ascend in his late 20s. This is no longer the case. Two decades of loneliness plus putting all that effort into something just to learn you never had a chance to begin with, that is bound to cause a mental disorder on a normal person. We are talking about millions of high iq people getting hit by the new blackpilled reality.
It's just a numbers game

 

[Speed]

If another large scale conflict kicked off and there was some kind of mandatory call to arms would you guys rope before going or would actually want to take out your frustations on the battlefield?

 

[Mik_TFL]

If another large scale conflict kicked off and there was some kind of mandatory call to arms would you guys rope before going or would actually want to take out your frustations on the battlefield?

if WW3 kicked off, there is a good chance a billion males would die, that, and the harshness of war would immediately dial down hypergamy to acceptable levels. Many of us would ascend.
I'm a framecel manlet with an advanced engineering degree, no military would ever send me to a battlefield, but you bet your ass I'd be militarymaxxing my way out of inceldom.

 

[inceldaygamer_]

The recent survey asked if incels were dangerous, however I seemed to have misread the question and interpreted it as "is inceldom dangerous?"

no tldr on this one, complex ideas just require that much words.

I hereby lay my reasoning, on why the current form of inceldom, coupled with the current socio-economic situation in the west and the sharp rise of hypergamy together make for an extremely dangerous combination.

The basis for my reasoning can be mostly explained in this video (inb4 jordan peterson is a cuck.. yeah I know, only the info is relevant):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3XYHPAwBzE
tldr on the video:

1. crime arises in places where relative differences on status/income are steep
2. men turn to violence when they see no other way of climbing the status ladder
3. men climb the status ladder because that's how they get access to women

Now here is the interesting bit, because of social media and online dating, the relative difference in the success dating market is absurdly high, it is no exaggeration to say that we are all competing against gigachad... that's #1.

The rise of videos/photos and social media like instagram have made it so that looks have taken almost all the weight in the LMS trifecta almost making them a minimum requirement, that is, where before you could make up for looks with money and status, this is no longer the case these days, your personality and intelligence also mean nothing these days, and since looks are mostly set by genetics, that makes for point #2.

Some key insights are ,ironically, the bluepill and redpill:

The bluepill is the promise that you can climb that status ladder with hard work and get access to women. (point #3)​

The redpill is the promise that you can cheat your way to get access to women (i.e. PUAs).​

The blackpill is, of course about realizing that this BS in the current dating market.​

So that gets us to the current situation of inceldom:

Millions of men have been forced by their genetics into inceldom without a way out, one of their most basic incentives to participate in society is gone.​

They are forced to see how a small amount of chads get all of the women.​

Day in and day out they are treated like subhumans just for their looks and shunned by society for not fulfilling women's insane unrealistic standards​

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When I say that inceldom is dangerous, this is what I mean, the current situation will cause one of 3 possible outcomes:

• A massive amount of incel suicides (the rise of which we are actually beginning to see)
• Men abandoning society and just giving up... aka the rise of NEETs (which we are also seeing)
• A small minority of men that will turn to violence (ER)

Now, let's focus on the violent minority for a second, because this is where the REAL danger comes from.

One thing to note, is that all of what I mentioned doesn't require any active spreading of the blackpill, most men will eventually become blackpill on their own.​

This means, that even if forums like these get banned, or google/facebook/reddit try to do speech policing, it will be impossible for any government or organisation to prevent the blackpilling of men.​

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Now here is the punchline you've all been waiting for:

What happens when a low iq idiot or a mentally unstable person goes ER? Well, he goes and kills 5 to 15 people, that's it.​

Any jackass can rent a van and go on a killing spree, and any (American) idiot can get a gun and murder a bunch of people.​

An idiot with some money might be able to go paddock... but still, all of these killing sprees are fairly low iq and not particularly effective.​

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BUT , take a look at what I marked on red... soon, it will be high iq people becoming mass murderers. This is a new phenomena and extremely alarming.​

A person with my knowledge and $100k could easily kill 10'000 people, I'm talking mass poisonings of water supply lines, autonomous drones that use face detection to shoot people, systematic destruction of key infrastructure... Hell, even triggering a war between countries isn't out of the question.​

A mid iq terrorist might put a pressure cooker bomb on a backpack and leave it on some crowded place, a high iq one would bury 3 of those 1 week in advance in some closed area and then another 3 at the choke point on the exit with a 90 second delay to the first 3...​

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I suspect that high IQ blackpilled individuals that go ER will not be doing it against particular groups of people, but against human nature itself, that's why their killing will be efficient and indiscriminate.​

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There is nothing any government can do to prevent this shit... things are going to get really bad over the next 10 years

The skill and cunning appeals to me...

Is killing humans really that bad? A few mass incidents would highly benefit the environment.

How much would taking out 10000 human lifeforms reduce C02 levels, for instance? It might be better solution than electric cars. Cars won't cause pollution is nobody drives them.

Maybe governments might actually realise that it will work in their favour.

The problem is, high IQ people are more likely to have inhibitions, second thoughts about their actions, which prevents them from doing anything.

Their energies are more likely to be spent on copes like escort maxxing or career maxing.

ER went ER because in the heat of the moment, it was easy to grab a rifle and go out shooting. Not much planning or forethought for you're conscience to get in the way.

The more planning such a thing requires, the less likely it is to be carried out.

But yeah, you basically described the plot the the Joker movie

 

[TheMinimalist]

Well, here is the thing, 10 years ago, a high iq individual with a fit body, a half decent personality and a promising career would almost certainly be able to ascend in his late 20s. This is no longer the case. Two decades of loneliness plus putting all that effort into something just to learn you never had a chance to begin with, that is bound to cause a mental disorder on a normal person. We are talking about millions of high iq people getting hit by the new blackpilled reality.
It's just a numbers game

Oh you mean the effects of disappointment on a person's brain?. Usually this would just cause a person to die out inside, however it CAN cause the person to lash out, resulting in the what the thread is about. Could you argue that it comes down to personality? If so, would ai learn to analyse personality and make predictions about if the person will fuck shit up or not?

 

[Mik_TFL]

Could you argue that it comes down to personality? If so, would ai learn to analyse personality and make predictions about if the person will fuck shit up or not?

That is indeed the case, it depends on the aggression level of the person, some people are just more aggressive. But the environment also plays a role, so an AI wouldn't really work.
There is a window of opportunity for these people to go crazy, it all depends when the blackpill hits. High iq successful people would very likely become betabuxxers if they remained bluepilled. The blackpill needs to hit late enough so that the person has his whole life meaning/goals collapse in front of them,but no so late that they'd be betabuxx material.

Is killing humans really that bad? A few mass incidents would highly benefit the environment.

How much would taking out 10000 human lifeforms reduce C02 levels, for instance? It might be better solution than electric cars. Cars won't cause pollution is nobody drives them.

You'd be surprised how such predictions can backfire. Take 9/11 for example, some 3k people died, but it wound up sparking a retarded war, and Trillions spent on it that didn't go towards better uses, many of which could save the environment.

To put it into perspective how retarded this was, if you had taken all of the Iraq war money (2.4 trillion long term estimate) and spent it on just solar farms, at 2.4$/Watt (average generation) you'd be able to buy 1TeraWatt of average generation, or 24TWh per day. That is 2.4 times more than the 10TWh the US uses per day. Of course, you wouldn't spend all on solar, and there is the grid scale storage that needs to be also taken into account, but it is no exaggeration to say that the US could have had a 100% sustainable grid by now.

 

[Fat Link]

It's kind of amazing that millions of people get up, go to work, go home as incels every day but there's only maybe 1 ER attack a year. Shows how much control there is.

Well despite the myth of the violent, mass murdering incel/wizard the truth is the majority of us are actually very humble, empathic, thoughtful, loving and kind people as hilarious as that might sound to bluepillers reading on fully brainwashed by Jewish mass media that we are evil incarnate and who take the various "venting" posts here to heart and supposedly believing those to be any way reflective of our true character.

So not surprising saying this here of all places ie our forum, but I'd say its from the normie community where you'll find the vast amount of cruel people and mass murderers.

 

[Deleted member 11032]

The only ones really hurt by inceldom are women who end up stranded alone if the incels develop into mgtow.

 

[FinnCel]

Pin this

 

[Deleted member 11032]

@BlkPillPres is going to fap to this thread guaranteed.

 

[TheMinimalist]

That is indeed the case, it depends on the aggression level of the person, some people are just more aggressive. But the environment also plays a role, so an AI wouldn't really work.
There is a window of opportunity for these people to go crazy, it all depends when the blackpill hits. High iq successful people would very likely become betabuxxers if they remained bluepilled. The blackpill needs to hit late enough so that the person has his whole life meaning/goals collapse in front of them,but no so late that they'd be betabuxx material.

You'd be surprised how such predictions can backfire. Take 9/11 for example, some 3k people died, but it wound up sparking a retarded war, and Trillions spent on it that didn't go towards better uses, many of which could save the environment.

To put it into perspective how retarded this was, if you had taken all of the Iraq war money (2.4 trillion long term estimate) and spent it on just solar farms, at 2.4$/Watt (average generation) you'd be able to buy 1TeraWatt of average generation, or 24TWh per day. That is 2.4 times more than the 10TWh the US uses per day. Of course, you wouldn't spend all on solar, and there is the grid scale storage that needs to be also taken into account, but it is no exaggeration to say that the US could have had a 100% sustainable grid by now.

High iq af

 

[BlkPillPres]

@BlkPillPres is going to fap to this thread guaranteed.

take a look at what I marked on red... soon, it will be high iq people becoming mass murderers. This is a new phenomena and extremely alarming.

I've talked about this very thing before, normies are very naive, if they seriously think the worse that incels are capable of is a few dozen people dying by gun fire, then they must truly think nothing of us, and they must think nothing of our plight and what it could drive a man to do, something big is coming in the next few years, and it will be glorious

There is nothing any government can do to prevent this shit... things are going to get really bad over the next 10 years

Soon normies will be brought to this understanding, the only way to stop this, would be to indiscriminately arrest all men 5/10 and below, good luck with that JFL, hypergamy has pushed even average looking men into the undesirables category, society is ironically just filling our ranks while telling us - "you guys are delusional", more and more stuff is coming out proving us right, like that study stating around 30% of unmarried men aren't having sex, and the figure is likely higher, I don't think people realize just how fucked society is, one guy is going to set the whole thing off with his ER and it will raise the standard for all ER's, and after that, it will be complete chaos, no more mass shootings, wars might even start