In response to @AnonWojak 's post asking about the same thing
I've noticed stuff about female nature that I didn't like for a long time, probably since I was like 14. How they can get away with stuff men can't how attractive women, and even unattractive women have men groveling at their feet, etc. I was fat and awful looking for most of my teenage years until about 17, but even then, the idea that bigger and uglier women were getting boyfriends upset me.
I always wondered why they had it so easy. When I tried asking these sorts of questions to friends, or female friends, or online, I was called an 'incel' 90% of the time. I didn't rly know what that meant at first, but after getting called something so many times, you look into it.
I felt bad looking into it, from my perspective, it was always just a bunch of lonely dudes who were driven to apathy and nihilism because they weren't desired, and even worse, society pointed at them, and labeled them as villains and losers.
I still feel this sense of sadness to this day for everyone who calls themselves an incel, including myself.
But then, after I lost some weight in my final year of HS after Covid, I started becoming more sociable, people laughed at my jokes in class, people knew me, etc. But only for the latter half of senior year. Then I went to college, joined the MMA club there, started boxing, and really got my physique together. This was also during the time when gymmaxxing and the Patrick Bateman memes were going around. So I continued to better myself, I only really started doing so because I wanted girls, I've never ever had a gf or a relationship.
But as I made more friends, and even lost more weight, and went through an experience where one of my new closest "friends" took the girl I wanted to date and gloated to me about it by saying "I won," after all this I started to realize that looks really do play a big factor.
I had worked on myself so much, but nothing had happened. Not one girl considered me as anything more than a 'really funny guy' or a 'good friend.' The girl who my friend took from me even let me know that I wasn't her type, and that I was an extremely good friend though.
This left me dejected, but not hopeless.
So I tried asking out more and more girls, looking up dating advice, cold approaching, actually taking notes from friends and (awful, I'm aware) women on how to date.
Not. A. Single. Girl. Liked. Me. Back.
I've never been the type of person to believe that something is completely hopeless in life. But this was crushing me, and I decided to look back into the 'incel' thing that I've heard about before. I stumbled upon WheatWaffles, learned the truth about female nature from other channels such as Rehab Room and the Thinking Ape, and I talked to more people like you guys to get your perspective on women.
And then I realized that, despite how negative it can be, the blackpill is THE most honest and truthful mindset, no coping, no lies to make you feel better or gaslight you, none of it. Just brutal facts. And I've always been a facts over anecdotal evidence kinda guy, so this was alluring to me.
The years went by, I became more miserable, seldom asking any girls out, giving up on dating apps after getting less than 4 matches in the span of 3 months, seeing couples n shit everywhere, it all made me bitter. But the thing that always irked me was the LIES. I cannot stand bluepilled motherfuckers and their "there's someone for everyone," "you're not bad looking," "it'll come when you least expect it" BULLSHIT.
It's all cope to get you to shut up and stop complaining, because normal, 'happy people' don't wanna hear it from people less fortunate than they are. So I learned to shut up. But it ate at me. And kept eating at me, until I was eventually talking to myself, only listening to screaming or sad music, making voice notes on my phone, venting about how awful women are, and gooning damn near every day.
I never wanted to be this way, but once you take the pill, once you see the truth, you cannot go back.
I eventually found this site through someone on instagram mentioning it as they were making fun of it. I'm so glad I did, never have I felt so heard, and have met people who have actually been through what I've been through, and won't lie about it, or sugarcoat it, or water it down so that they can get some ad money on youtube or something. I hate foids, although all I've ever wanted was a beautiful loving wife. But this chance wasn't given to me.
Now all I do is goon and occasionally talk to women when needed in social settings, while trying to make my boxing career work out.
It kinda sucks, and I think about ending my life every day. Almost by the hour. But I'm still here, hoping that hard work does pay off.
If it doesn't I turn 21 in 6 months. The legal age to procure a gun. At least then I'll always have a way out.
I've noticed stuff about female nature that I didn't like for a long time, probably since I was like 14. How they can get away with stuff men can't how attractive women, and even unattractive women have men groveling at their feet, etc. I was fat and awful looking for most of my teenage years until about 17, but even then, the idea that bigger and uglier women were getting boyfriends upset me.
I always wondered why they had it so easy. When I tried asking these sorts of questions to friends, or female friends, or online, I was called an 'incel' 90% of the time. I didn't rly know what that meant at first, but after getting called something so many times, you look into it.
I felt bad looking into it, from my perspective, it was always just a bunch of lonely dudes who were driven to apathy and nihilism because they weren't desired, and even worse, society pointed at them, and labeled them as villains and losers.
I still feel this sense of sadness to this day for everyone who calls themselves an incel, including myself.
But then, after I lost some weight in my final year of HS after Covid, I started becoming more sociable, people laughed at my jokes in class, people knew me, etc. But only for the latter half of senior year. Then I went to college, joined the MMA club there, started boxing, and really got my physique together. This was also during the time when gymmaxxing and the Patrick Bateman memes were going around. So I continued to better myself, I only really started doing so because I wanted girls, I've never ever had a gf or a relationship.
But as I made more friends, and even lost more weight, and went through an experience where one of my new closest "friends" took the girl I wanted to date and gloated to me about it by saying "I won," after all this I started to realize that looks really do play a big factor.
I had worked on myself so much, but nothing had happened. Not one girl considered me as anything more than a 'really funny guy' or a 'good friend.' The girl who my friend took from me even let me know that I wasn't her type, and that I was an extremely good friend though.
This left me dejected, but not hopeless.
So I tried asking out more and more girls, looking up dating advice, cold approaching, actually taking notes from friends and (awful, I'm aware) women on how to date.
Not. A. Single. Girl. Liked. Me. Back.
I've never been the type of person to believe that something is completely hopeless in life. But this was crushing me, and I decided to look back into the 'incel' thing that I've heard about before. I stumbled upon WheatWaffles, learned the truth about female nature from other channels such as Rehab Room and the Thinking Ape, and I talked to more people like you guys to get your perspective on women.
And then I realized that, despite how negative it can be, the blackpill is THE most honest and truthful mindset, no coping, no lies to make you feel better or gaslight you, none of it. Just brutal facts. And I've always been a facts over anecdotal evidence kinda guy, so this was alluring to me.
The years went by, I became more miserable, seldom asking any girls out, giving up on dating apps after getting less than 4 matches in the span of 3 months, seeing couples n shit everywhere, it all made me bitter. But the thing that always irked me was the LIES. I cannot stand bluepilled motherfuckers and their "there's someone for everyone," "you're not bad looking," "it'll come when you least expect it" BULLSHIT.
It's all cope to get you to shut up and stop complaining, because normal, 'happy people' don't wanna hear it from people less fortunate than they are. So I learned to shut up. But it ate at me. And kept eating at me, until I was eventually talking to myself, only listening to screaming or sad music, making voice notes on my phone, venting about how awful women are, and gooning damn near every day.
I never wanted to be this way, but once you take the pill, once you see the truth, you cannot go back.
I eventually found this site through someone on instagram mentioning it as they were making fun of it. I'm so glad I did, never have I felt so heard, and have met people who have actually been through what I've been through, and won't lie about it, or sugarcoat it, or water it down so that they can get some ad money on youtube or something. I hate foids, although all I've ever wanted was a beautiful loving wife. But this chance wasn't given to me.
Now all I do is goon and occasionally talk to women when needed in social settings, while trying to make my boxing career work out.
It kinda sucks, and I think about ending my life every day. Almost by the hour. But I'm still here, hoping that hard work does pay off.
If it doesn't I turn 21 in 6 months. The legal age to procure a gun. At least then I'll always have a way out.
