Why does anything exist? The universe? Earth? Us? Reality? Why does all of it exist? What's the purpose?

[glowIntheDark]

The state of non reality that must have existed before any event(Before the beginning of the universe) must have been doing just fine .

then the universe came to be. With it the dimensions of reality. Atoms , molecules, planets, cellular life.

Humans somewhere along the way, billions of them. 90% of whom lived meaningless lives filled with poverty, sickness serving in meaningless wars or poor peasants to a feudal lord

Out of the bazillion gazzilion stars with it's endless possibilities you came to be. But why?

But why did anything came to be?

Does it matter?

What is the reason I was born out of the billion other genetic recombination possibilities of my parents ?

Do I have an inherent purpose? Does anything?

What purpose did say a newborn baby that dies on the sixth day of a lung infection had?

If the Earth was wiped off the galaxy by a rogue Asteroid would it really matter? Wouldn't it even make a blip on the grand scheme of things?

Does God exist? Which one? Why does he exist? Would it really matter to reality if God never existed?

Does consciousness come from God? But what purpose does God's existence have?

 

[EngelCallDell19]

Really makes one think indeed.

Atheism is even worse tbh, because supernatural is a sine qua non condition to natural. Natural can't be the first cause of natural (or else we get an endless loop of "and who created that?) and things can't have existed forever (entropy, thermodynamics, etc).

Supernatural origin to natural= God.

The specific things religions claim, like the virgin birth of Jesus for an example, are a matter of faith and trusting the testimony of the apostles, etc, but believing in God as defined in the line above isn't. You can infer it.

 

[Mainländer]

The purpose is pleasing God, whether you like/believe in Him or not.

 

[glowIntheDark]

The purpose is pleasing God, whether you like/believe in Him or not.

Which one ?

Also how can you be so sure that The version of God you believe in is the true one?

If it's all blind faith how can it be ensured that God is not a cope to shield you with just how insignificant human existence is on a cosmic scale?

 

[CruxGammata]

The purpose is to have sex and impregnate as many foids as possible before you die in a conquest.

 

[glowIntheDark]

The purpose is to have sex and impregnate as many foids as possible before you die in a conquest.

But why? What would I care if someone with half my DNA exists ? What would that benefit me if I wouldn't even exist in my death?

Today me and my brother can die in a earthquake and just like that our bloodline will be wiped out? But would that impact anything? No. Because our bloodline isn't really special

 

[TheJoker]

There are no special answers. You're the fungus of the earth. The earth would do better without us.
There is NO God. No Devil. Just the evil in the hearts of men and women.

We are billions of people living on a rock. Everything else is manipulation.

Your leaders are not your leaders. Your government is oppressing you. Everyone is trying to survive
and killing each other. They created money to stop you living without being in their system. They
created societal conditioning and standards in order to keep you in line. The law was created
to keep the poor in check.

Our depression is their oppression.

 

[CruxGammata]

What would I care if someone with half my DNA exists ?

you should not care, just look at cats, they impregnate any female they like and leave.

What would that benefit me if I wouldn't even exist in my death?

Ego boost.

Today me and my brother can die in a earthquake and just like that our bloodline will be wiped out? But would that impact anything? No. Because our bloodline isn't really special

See Genghis khan

 

[Chokhmah]

This world is a prison created by the Archons, to capture the Divine spark that rests inside. The frequency by which it vibrates is determinate on your hedonistic behaviour -- slowing with each depraved act and thought. The true world lay beyond the material plane. This world feels so terrible because it is designed that way.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

We can try this:

No, this:

No. We'll try this:

1000Genomes_30x	Global	Study-wide	6404	C=0.8887	A=0.1113
1000Genomes_30x	African	Sub	1786	C=0.9619	A=0.0381
1000Genomes_30x	Europe	Sub	1266	C=0.6967	A=0.3033
1000Genomes_30x	South Asian	Sub	1202	C=0.9426	A=0.0574
1000Genomes_30x	East Asian	Sub	1170	C=0.9991	A=0.0009
1000Genomes_30x	American	Sub	980	C=0.805	A=0.195

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4323577/

What is the relationship between rationality and mental health? By considering the psychological literature on depressive realism and unrealistic optimism, it was hypothesized that, in the context of judgments about the self, accurate cognitions are psychologically maladaptive and inaccurate cognitions are psychologically adaptive. Recent studies recommend being cautious in drawing any general conclusion about the style of thinking and mental health.

Recent findings​

Recent investigations suggest that people with depressive symptoms are more accurate than controls in tasks involving time perception and estimates of personal circumstances, but not in other tasks. Unrealistic optimism remains a robust phenomenon across a variety of tasks and domains, and researchers are starting to explore its neural bases. However, the challenge is to determine to what extent and in what way unrealistic optimism is beneficial.

Summary​

We should revisit the hypothesis that optimistic cognitions are psychologically adaptive, whereas realistic thinking is not. Realistic beliefs and expectations can be conducive to wellbeing and good functioning, and wildly optimistic cognitions have considerable psychological costs.
Keywords: depressive realism, mental health, positive illusions, unrealistic optimism

 

[Incel TV]

The point is to ask what’s the point

 

[Mainländer]

Which one ?

The one who was actually the first supernatural cause to everything that exists, whatever name you choose for Him.

Also how can you be so sure that The version of God you believe in is the true one?

You can't tbh. Like @EngelCallDell19 quoted from me above, only God in general can be inferred, the specifics are all matter of faith.

If it's all blind faith

It's not blind faith. There are evidences for Christianity for instance, you either deem than enough for you or not (if you know about them I mean, many people don't even know anything about it).

how can it be ensured that God is not a cope to shield you with just how insignificant human existence is on a cosmic scale?

There are WAY more evidences for God than for the modern cosmological model that makes humans look irrelevant (on purpose, it seems).

 

[glowIntheDark]

This world is a prison created by the Archons, to capture the Divine spark that rests inside. The frequency by which it vibrates is determinate on your hedonistic behaviour -- slowing with each depraved act and thought. The true world lay beyond the material plane. This world feels so terrible because it is designed that way.

Okay if you are not trolling can I read more into this theory? Do u have a link?

 

[glowIntheDark]

We can try this:

View attachment 988461

No, this:

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No. We'll try this:

1000Genomes_30x	Global	Study-wide	6404	C=0.8887	A=0.1113
1000Genomes_30x	African	Sub	1786	C=0.9619	A=0.0381
1000Genomes_30x	Europe	Sub	1266	C=0.6967	A=0.3033
1000Genomes_30x	South Asian	Sub	1202	C=0.9426	A=0.0574
1000Genomes_30x	East Asian	Sub	1170	C=0.9991	A=0.0009
1000Genomes_30x	American	Sub	980	C=0.805	A=0.195

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4323577/

Thank u for your valid input. I always count on you to post some completely random shit on my feed

 

[CantEscapeYourFate]

Oy vey

 

[glowIntheDark]

The one who was actually the first supernatural cause to everything that exists, whatever name you choose for Him

If every something has a creator. Why does He exist. What purpose does his existence serve to everything that there is .

not blind faith. There are evidences for Christianity for instance, you either deem than enough for you or not (if you know about them I mean, many people don't even know anything about it).

Even as a questioning agnostic out of all faiths I respect Christianity the most because I truly believe one of the greater reasons for the dominance of Western civilization over the rest of the world was through the foundation laid off Christian values and principles

with that being said even I can recognise that none of it was some deep cosmic relevation. truly? Was there an Adam or Eve? Noah's ark? King Sodom? You think any of that actually happened?

 

[worthlessloser26]

It was created for chad and Stacy. We are just background characters

 

[Mainländer]

If every something has a creator. Why does He exist. What purpose does his existence serve to everything that there is .

I wouldn't pretend to actually know that. It's tricky because He necessarily transcends the natural world we know and are bound to.

Even as a questioning agnostic out of all faiths I respect Christianity the most because I truly believe one of the greater reasons for the dominance of Western civilization over the rest of the world was through the foundation laid off Christian values and principles

I used to be like that as well.

with that being said even I can recognise that none of it was some deep cosmic relevation. truly? Was there an Adam or Eve? Noah's ark? King Sodom? You think any of that actually happened?

I went through a very high faith phase but now I'm struggling with specifics such as what actually happened long ago, which books are actually canon and actually written by the people claimed as authors, which are the correct interpretations, etc.

I still consider myself to be a Christian though, since the core part of Christianity, which is the ressurrection of Jesus, actually has pretty strong evidence, as far as historical evidence criteria go anyway. But I accept that, since it's something supernatural, some people will have an insane evidence threshold to accept it. The bible also contains a lot of harsh stuff people are commonly unwilling to accept, so, ironically, it's more akin to a bluepilled person rejecting a blackpill than the opposite if you think about it.

 

[Chokhmah]

Okay if you are not trolling can I read more into this theory? Do u have a link?

It's called Neo-Gnosticism. Here's some traditional gnostic literature to see if you're into it:

A Gnostic Reading List

A comprehensive bibliography and reading list on the subject of Gnosis and Gnosticism, both ancient and modern. The site includes the Gnostic Society Library with the complete Nag Hammadi Library, and a large collection of other primary Gnostic scriptures and documents.

gnosis.org

Neo-Gnosticism is slightly different, since the belief is that our Divine Spark will return to God but perhaps that one of two things is happening:
- God is not aware of our existence, he gave function (Spark) but not the form (Sophia). Hence our pleas are ignored and the Archons continue to rule.
- God is being raped, prison to his own creation which he divined his rare power, and our world is but 1 of the many tears running down his face
- We are being raped, and the world we see is a prison we put into ourselves because when we die we wake up in a much more terrible existence before falling asleep again to share the same dream

If you don't like this, I suggest looking into Jewish Quabalistic teachings as they are EXTEMELY blackpilled once you study. It's also extremely enlightening if you ever to intend to practice the occult. To learn more go on Blackpill Club and navigate to the Occult section.

 

[Uvertz]

Sometimes I ask myself what is my role on this world

 

[fukurou]

The purpose is pleasing God, whether you like/believe in Him or not.

the one that fucked Mary, the one that didn't stop the holocaust or the one that promotes hypergamy?

humans exist to learn and ultimately solve the brain's algorithm and evolve in to something new.

nothing is 100% certain other than the fact I exist because I think=> absolute truth can only derive from understanding thinking.

 

[fukurou]

Which one ?

Also how can you be so sure that The version of God you believe in is the true one?

If it's all blind faith how can it be ensured that God is not a cope to shield you with just how insignificant human existence is on a cosmic scale?

he got some femcel brazilian pussy and now he is all lovey dovey faithy.

 

[faded]

 

[fukurou]

The one who was actually the first supernatural cause to everything that exists, whatever name you choose for Him.


You can't tbh. Like @EngelCallDell19 quoted from me above, only God in general can be inferred, the specifics are all matter of faith.


It's not blind faith. There are evidences for Christianity for instance, you either deem than enough for you or not (if you know about them I mean, many people don't even know anything about it).


There are WAY more evidences for God than for the modern cosmological model that makes humans look irrelevant (on purpose, it seems).

^tell me you're a fakecel, without actually spelling it out

 

[Mainländer]

the one that fucked Mary

Well that was pretty based. God isn't an agecuck for sure.

the one that didn't stop the holocaust

It had to happen for Jews to recover their land. It actually fits well in the higher purpose for suffering Augustinian argument tbh.

the one that promotes hypergamy?

Yeah this one sucks, but humans are cursed along with this earth (we're made from it according to the bible).

Also, according to the bible, God isn't a lookist. @1 Samuel 16:7

nothing is 100% certain other than the fact I exist because I think=> absolute truth can only derive from understanding thinking.

What about the brain in a vat hypothesis?

 

[fukurou]

What about the brain in a vat hypothesis?

what about it?

 

[Mainländer]

^tell me you're a fakecel, without actually spelling it out

I don't see the connection tbqh.

what about it?

nothing is 100% certain other than the fact I exist because I think=> absolute truth can only derive from understanding thinking.

It kinda challenges that claim.

he got some femcel brazilian pussy and now he is all lovey dovey faithy.

Kek, I wish. Well, if you count prositutes that's true, but I actually haven't been to one for quite a while and I started with that habit way before ever showing up in incel forums.

 

[w1818alone]

You have to believe

 

[Mainländer]

It kinda challenges that claim.

It actually doesn't when I think about it better. Only your existence as you see it, but not per se.

It's actually a solid starting point.

 

[RandomGuy]

nothing exists, this is all an illusion

View: https://youtu.be/JF61lhEeGng?si=v7DYFdZIu-4XyV4Q


View: https://youtu.be/GeToAjiguQ0?si=-ICza64hlVrA4GbA

Implicate and explicate order​

 

[edger0uter]

The hard truth is that there is no purpose.

God-fags will tell you that pleasing god is the purpose of life but they are just coping with the fact that after you die, there will be absolute nothingness. Either that or they just can't imagine pure nothingness. Just like you can't imagine what it is like to be asleep. You just are and wake up at some point.

Or perhaps they can't imagine that our existence was caused by pure randomness. However we came to exist, I can assure you that we were not created by a god. If we were, who created said god? And who created God's creator? You see? It doesn't make much sense. Science does not have the answer for why we exist either but, again, do you think that one day some guy from space decided "Yeah, imma create a bunch of people and let them fuck around with illness, hunger, natural disaster, and inceldom"?

One day we will all die and that is it. The best we can do is make sure our lives are as good as possible before we pass away.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

The purpose is pleasing God, whether you like/believe in Him or not.

Why does God exist?

 

[Mainländer]

Why does God exist?

It's a good question. Could He not exist? Could nothing actually exist?

I guess not.

 

[glowIntheDark]

It's called Neo-Gnosticism. Here's some traditional gnostic literature to see if you're into it:

A Gnostic Reading List

A comprehensive bibliography and reading list on the subject of Gnosis and Gnosticism, both ancient and modern. The site includes the Gnostic Society Library with the complete Nag Hammadi Library, and a large collection of other primary Gnostic scriptures and documents.

gnosis.org

Neo-Gnosticism is slightly different, since the belief is that our Divine Spark will return to God but perhaps that one of two things is happening:
- God is not aware of our existence, he gave function (Spark) but not the form (Sophia). Hence our pleas are ignored and the Archons continue to rule.
- God is being raped, prison to his own creation which he divined his rare power, and our world is but 1 of the many tears running down his face
- We are being raped, and the world we see is a prison we put into ourselves because when we die we wake up in a much more terrible existence before falling asleep again to share the same dream

If you don't like this, I suggest looking into Jewish Quabalistic teachings as they are EXTEMELY blackpilled once you study. It's also extremely enlightening if you ever to intend to practice the occult. To learn more go on Blackpill Club and navigate to the Occult section.

ahh that's interesting i will check this out

 

[Just say NIGGER!]

What would that benefit me if I wouldn't even exist in my death?

By reproducing, you gain a partial biological immortality.

 

[Blackpill Monk]

nothing exists, this is all an illusion

 

[Blackpill Monk]

There is NO God. No Devil. Just the evil in the hearts of men and women.

 

[Blackpill Monk]

Our depression is their oppression

 

[Blackpill Monk]

It was created for chad and Stacy. We are just background characters

 

[FinnCel]

nothing exists, this is all an illusion

Your illusion is filled with chads and you aren't one of them

 

[Blackpill Monk]

Sometimes we have to pretend because what you are saying is beyond the normal understanding and normal brain functioning of human. What you are saying, you can't find it's answer, that is beyond nature, it's beyond from the understanding and consciousness of normal human. One have to gain supreme metaphysical and spiritual enlightenment to get those answer and we normal human can't get it

 

[FinnCel]

However we came to exist, I can assure you that we were not created by a god. If we were, who created said god?

Are you trying to imply that before we can accept an explanation as the best (like God creating the universe), we have to have an explanation of the explanation?
With that logic, NOTHING can ever be accepted as an explanation

 

[BlueCore]

I sometimes wonder this myself, why are we even here? What's the point?

And how did we even get to this point?

 

[Incline]

Idk

 

[glowIntheDark]

We really can't comprehend a state of non-existence because it's not even a "state" from a subjective pov, Do you remember a time when you didn't exist? no, as far as you're concerned you've always existed, time began with you, your idea of a past before you is merely an imagination

This is the bullshit I was talking about in the other thread, this is why this reality is worse than HELL


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jmNzlTd09E

Watch 39:00 - 41:30 in this video, this "multiversal lottery" is the problem, this reality is like a quantum computer with all possibilities existing at the same time, but most of those possibilities are "dead" so there won't be a living being "experiencing time" in them, and time is only real when experienced, so you're only you when you're already you

Every"thing" has both the state of existence and non-existence, things exist in existence and don't exist in non-existence

And that's the tricky part, things exist when they already exist, and all "things" do have a state of existence in this quantum computer, in a way existence is mandatory, "you" cannot NOT exist, THIS THE SHIT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THIS WHOLE REALITY NEEDS TO BE NUKED

This is why I'm fond of Gnosticism, even if it's spiritual cope it still sits right with me

In Gnosticism, an aeon called Sophia tried to comprehend GOD (the true and only God), BUT, one of the names of God is "incomprehensible", so Sophia did a mistake

(Sophia's real name is "wisdom", wisdom is different than knowledge because it's achieved with passage of time and making mistakes, so it was in Sophia's nature to make mistakes, and God knew this when he created her so in a way wanted her to comprehend him)

And out of her mistake (the false and imperfect comprehension of GOD) she gave birth to a false and imperfect God (The Demiurge, aka the quantum computer that has every possible speculation of GOD) that created this world, so this world is a failed attempt to understand God (who is incomprehensible) and is doomed to contain infinite suffering as long as it exists

This is too high iq for me i will come back to this when I am not sleepy kek

 

[VλREN]

Puppets of sort, were all slaves

 

[VλREN]

This is too high iq for me i will come back to this when I am not sleepy kek

Nah it’s just schizophrenia

 

[dziki_dzik]

The hard truth is that there is no purpose.

God-fags will tell you that pleasing god is the purpose of life but they are just coping with the fact that after you die, there will be absolute nothingness. Either that or they just can't imagine pure nothingness. Just like you can't imagine what it is like to be asleep. You just are and wake up at some point.

Or perhaps they can't imagine that our existence was caused by pure randomness. However we came to exist, I can assure you that we were not created by a god. If we were, who created said god? And who created God's creator? You see? It doesn't make much sense. Science does not have the answer for why we exist either but, again, do you think that one day some guy from space decided "Yeah, imma create a bunch of people and let them fuck around with illness, hunger, natural disaster, and inceldom"?

One day we will all die and that is it. The best we can do is make sure our lives are as good as possible before we pass away.

mensa iq post