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Why do they say Hitler started WW2?

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I was reading on this and it seems that Hitler did not start WW2 by invading Poland. Rather Britain and France started it by attacking Germany for invading Poland.

Soviet Union invaded Poland too alongside Germany but they don't say Stalin started WW2
 
Britain and france had defence treaties to defend Poland specifically from Germany but I'd say that's their fault. They started it by making those stupid treaties in the first place.
 
Because we are taught what they want us to believe, but one thing is for damn certain.

War, war never changes.
 
I was reading on this and it seems that Hitler did not start WW2 by invading Poland. Rather Britain and France started it by attacking Germany for invading Poland.

Soviet Union invaded Poland too alongside Germany but they don't say Stalin started WW2
Because the invasion of Poland was just a reason to declare war. Do you think the British or the French really felt sorry for Poland? Britain and France never declared war on the USSR, the British even allowed Poland to remain a Soviet puppet, and they (the British) most likely killed one Polish general who exposed the secret of Katyn, I'm talking about Vladislav Sikorsky.
 
We're breaking the conditioning
 
I was reading on this and it seems that Hitler did not start WW2 by invading Poland. Rather Britain and France started it by attacking Germany for invading Poland.

Soviet Union invaded Poland too alongside Germany but they don't say Stalin started WW2
To give a moral justification for going to war. The truth is that Britain and France were against a strong and sovereign Germany from day one, as it shifted the balance of power against them, and so they responded by containing German influence by any means necessary, culminating finally in guaranteeing Poland's independence. The Poles, overestimating their military capabilities and confident that the Western Allies would come to their aid, pushed the Germans to declare war on them by refusing to settle the Danzig Corridor and by carrying out a systematic ethnic cleansing of Germans within their borders.
 
jewish brainwashing
 
I was reading on this and it seems that Hitler did not start WW2 by invading Poland. Rather Britain and France started it by attacking Germany for invading Poland.

Soviet Union invaded Poland too alongside Germany but they don't say Stalin started WW2
Correct but, if England and France had allowed Hitler to take Poland Hitler slowly would have taken everything and he would have in time been undefeatable!
Yes your are also partially right on Stalin ,Stalin would have gone for the Slavic nations yes but not western Europe
 
Correct but, if England and France had allowed Hitler to take Poland Hitler slowly would have taken everything and he would have in time been undefeatable!
Yes your are also partially right on Stalin ,Stalin would have gone for the Slavic nations yes but not western Europe
Stalin wanted the Germans to be exhausted in the war with the British and the French, and then as soon as the three sides of the conflict were weakened by the war with each other, Stalin would be able to send several million Red Army soldiers to Europe. It was a secret Soviet operation codenamed "Thunderstorm" to conquer Europe and establish communism there. Therefore, at the time of Barbarossa, Stalin concentrated tens of thousands of tanks, thousands of planes and millions of soldiers on the border of Germany and the USSR, he was waiting for Germany to weaken in order to strike at her at the moment when Germany, France, Britain would run out of steam from the war with each other. At the beginning of the Second World War, many believed that it would be militarily similar to the First World War, where the front line was moving slowly and the main part of the war was focused on trench warfare. Therefore, Stalin was waiting for him to strike at a weakened Europe.
 
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I was reading on this and it seems that Hitler did not start WW2 by invading Poland. Rather Britain and France started it by attacking Germany for invading Poland.

Soviet Union invaded Poland too alongside Germany but they don't say Stalin started WW2
Water, also soviets invaded baltic republics, Bessarabia and Finland and the western allies didn't care.
 
Britain and france had defence treaties to defend Poland specifically from Germany but I'd say that's their fault. They started it by making those stupid treaties in the first place.
In other words, they were sneaking to ensnare a legitimate nation-state & impede upon its sphere of influence, after they had already been deprived of their rightful territory post WWI
To give a moral justification for going to war. The truth is that Britain and France were against a strong and sovereign Germany from day one, as it shifted the balance of power against them, and so they responded by containing German influence by any means necessary, culminating finally in guaranteeing Poland's independence. The Poles, overestimating their military capabilities and confident that the Western Allies would come to their aid, pushed the Germans to declare war on them by refusing to settle the Danzig Corridor and by carrying out a systematic ethnic cleansing of Germans within their borders.
:yes: :yes:
 
Stalin wanted the Germans to be exhausted in the war with the British and the French, and then as soon as the three sides of the conflict were weakened by the war with each other, Stalin would be able to send several million Red Army soldiers to Europe. It was a secret Soviet operation codenamed "Thunderstorm" to conquer Europe and establish communism there. Therefore, at the time of Barbarossa, Stalin concentrated tens of thousands of tanks, thousands of planes and millions of soldiers on the border of Germany and the USSR, he was waiting for Germany to weaken in order to strike at her at the moment when Germany, France, Britain would run out of steam from the war with each other. At the beginning of the Second World War, many believed that it would be militarily similar to the First World War, where the front line was moving slowly and the main part of the war was focused on trench warfare. Therefore, Stalin was waiting for him to strike at a weakened Europe.
Maybe but from what I have read that the Russians fought tooth and nail to beat Germany and although Russia is big on natural resources but small on population compared to the rest of Europe.You could be right but I doubt even if Stalin believed he could have had Europe that he would have.Russia lost 16 million soldiers and civilians just to beat Germany .
 
Maybe but from what I have read that the Russians fought tooth and nail to beat Germany and although Russia is big on natural resources but small on population compared to the rest of Europe.You could be right but I doubt even if Stalin believed he could have had Europe that he would have.Russia lost 16 million soldiers and civilians just to beat Germany .
Because France didn't last long, and Hitler didn't invade the British Isles. Stalin believed that Hitler would finish off Great Britain first, and then there would be a Soviet-german war. Many of Stalin's advisers said that Germany would go to the Middle East in search of oil and that the Germans there would be stuck in a war with the British for a long time.
 
Stalin did not expect Operation Barbarossa or the German invasion until early 1943. Therefore, the invasion of June 22, 1941, was a surprise to him.
 
Because France didn't last long, and Hitler didn't invade the British Isles. Stalin believed that Hitler would finish off Great Britain first, and then there would be a Soviet-german war. Many of Stalin's advisers said that Germany would go to the Middle East in search of oil and that the Germans there would be stuck in a war with the British for a long time.
The battle of Stalingrad was the most bitter in world history ,the Russians drank tank anti freeze when vodka ran out. And Germany was so unprepared for the cold weather and they were so cold ,they shot wild dogs to make clothing and gloves for their hands !

The Germans managed to capture one of Stalin's son's who was a high ranking officer and the Germans assumed a good prisoner swap in their favor ,except Stalin responded "I don't have a son"
 
I was reading on this and it seems that Hitler did not start WW2 by invading Poland. Rather Britain and France started it by attacking Germany for invading Poland.

Soviet Union invaded Poland too alongside Germany but they don't say Stalin started WW2
The Red Army soldiers didn't commit genocide and they againstthey lost against poland and finnland; they weren't perceived as a threat. The war only escalated when the Germans invaded the Soviets.

After that, there was no turning back.

The Soviets pushed the Nazis back fairly quickly, and only then did the Western powers realize that if they did nothing, the Soviets would overrun all of Europe. And so they contributed to the war very late, but only when it was clear that the Soviets were winning the war.
If the Western powers had not joined the war, the Soviets would have reached France and dominated all of Europe.
 
The Red Army soldiers didn't commit genocide and they againstthey lost against poland and finnland; they weren't perceived as a threat. The war only escalated when the Germans invaded the Soviets.
France was already under German occupation by then.
 
France was already under German occupation by then.
yes and the allies gave a shit about that. They started bombing germany when the soviets already were winning the war.
The Soviets were masters of weapons production. They produced tanks, rifles, and other weapons in an extremely short period of time.
The Soviets' famous anti-tank rifle was constructed in less than a month and is still in use in war zones today.
With their insane weapons production, the Soviets were an incredible force.
And then they had an extremely large population.
 
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The Red Army soldiers didn't commit genocide and they againstthey lost against poland and finnland; they weren't perceived as a threat. The war only escalated when the Germans invaded the Soviets.

After that, there was no turning back.

The Soviets pushed the Nazis back fairly quickly, and only then did the Western powers realize that if they did nothing, the Soviets would overrun all of Europe. And so they contributed to the war very late, but only when it was clear that the Soviets were winning the war.
If the Western powers had not joined the war, the Soviets would have reached France and dominated all of Europe.
The USSR seized the territories of Finland, the USSR seized half of Poland (what is now commonly called western Ukraine and western Belarus), the USSR forced Romania to give up Bukovina and Bessarabia, the USSR seized and annexed the Baltic states. The expansion of the USSR was very active. The Red Army was shit, all the USSR had were millions of young men that it would sacrifice on the battlefield. The USSR was superior to the Germans only in manpower, in terms of technology or officers, the Reich was better.
 
The Red Army soldiers didn't commit genocide and they againstthey lost against poland and finnland; they weren't perceived as a threat. The war only escalated when the Germans invaded the Soviets.

After that, there was no turning back.

The Soviets pushed the Nazis back fairly quickly, and only then did the Western powers realize that if they did nothing, the Soviets would overrun all of Europe. And so they contributed to the war very late, but only when it was clear that the Soviets were winning the war.
If the Western powers had not joined the war, the Soviets would have reached France and dominated all of Europe.
That's not true either. Stalin literally did nothing but constantly ask the United States to open a second front in Europe. The Allied landings in Italy greatly saved the USSR during the Battle of Kursk, when the Germans sent part of the reserves to Italy, withdrawing them from the eastern front.If the Western Allies had not diverted German resources to long theaters of war, the USSR would never have defeated the Germans fighting one-on-one. Most likely, Stalin would have surrendered sooner or later and given Belarus and Ukraine, the Baltic States and other German-occupied lands to the Germans in exchange for an armistice.
 
yes and the allies gave a shit about that. They started bombing germany when the soviets already were winning the war.
The Soviets were masters of weapons production. They produced tanks, rifles, and other weapons in an extremely short period of time.
The Soviets' famous anti-tank rifle was constructed in less than a month and is still in use in war zones today.
With their insane weapons production, the Soviets were an incredible force.
And then they had an extremely large population.
It's ridiculous that the USSR could produce tanks and airplanes, but the USSR could not provide food for its army. Therefore, one of the main Lend-lease goods from the USA to the USSR was stew and other food for the Red army. Soviet leaders such as Stalin and Khrushchev recognized that without the help of the United States, the USSR would sooner or later have been defeated.
 
in terms of technology or officers, the Reich was better.
the soviets had better weapons at the end.
But they had untrained soldiers who couldn't drive the tanks.
The diesel engines of the Soviet tanks were superior to those of the German tanks, and they were designed for bad weather.
 
Most likely, Stalin would have surrendered sooner or later and given Belarus and Ukraine, the Baltic States and other German-occupied lands to the Germans in exchange for an armistice.
The Germans were able to reach the large factories in Siberia.
The Germans underestimated the Soviets.
They couldn't believe how well-armed the Russians were.
They thought they were fighting a peasant state like Poland.
The Soviets had massively rearmed.
 
The Germans were able to reach the large factories in Siberia.
The Germans underestimated the Soviets.
They couldn't believe how well-armed the Russians were.
They thought they were fighting a peasant state like Poland.
The Soviets had massively rearmed.
The Germans did not expect that Stalin's totalitarian rule in the USSR was so strong that the communist system would survive even after several large boilers, the surrender of millions of Red Army soldiers, and the defeat of the Red Army on all fronts in the first year of the war. Stalin destroyed the opposition to himself before World War II, so no one overthrew him during World War II. Tsarist Russia lost about 1.5-2 million soldiers in WWI, and this was enough for the tsarist regime to fall. The USSR lost 26 million military and civilians in WWII, and despite this, the Stalinist regime survived.
 
Britain and France had no reason to involve themselves in German-Polish Danzig negotiations. It’s really their fault for starting WW2
 
Britain and France had no reason to involve themselves in German-Polish Danzig negotiations. It’s really their fault for starting WW2
To add on, Poland was occupying land which historically always was German & had ethnic Germans in it still
 
I was reading on this and it seems that Hitler did not start WW2 by invading Poland. Rather Britain and France started it by attacking Germany for invading Poland.

Soviet Union invaded Poland too alongside Germany but they don't say Stalin started WW2
Britain wanted Germany crushed because they were challenging Britains might on the world stage and especially Britain did not want one nation dominating Europe and minimising Britains influence there . Britain did not tolerate that so the wanted the war and did everything to maneuvor in that direction. Plus Britains elites are all jews through inter marrying with jews

Now Britain is actually turning into a shithole
 

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