why do people still cope that you can ascend later in life with younger women

[turbocuckcel_7000]

why do people still cope that you can 'just wait' and that men age like fine wine and men peak at age 40 or whatever..

those relationships where an older man divorces and then gets with a younger woman seem to have vanished completely.
they aren't even popular among the rich and successful anymore, let alone average men.

this is one aspect of gender relations that is evolving and changing right now, and no male seems to be reacting to it or even realizing it.
these age gap relationships were never that popular to begin with, but the status of an average man in his 30s and 40s seems to be dropping vertiginously.
their status is changing into something like an impotent grandpa, that no one wants to see with an attractive woman, or on the big screen, or even having fun.

there actually seems to be no limit to the amount of feminist victories, and there's yet another one that's happening right now.
random thread example where the case is clearly made, that a man in his 40s is not supposed to get with a woman in her 30s. let alone a woman in her 20s.

observe how lying about your age isn't just an incel meme. it's even deployed by men who MANAGED TO LOOK TEN YEARS YOUNGER BUT ARE STILL NOT CONFIDENT IN THE SUCCESSFUL WORK THAT THEY PUT IN TO LOOK FIT AND YOUNG, AND THUS STILL NEEDED TO LIE TO GET THE DATE.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/15ss0hg/my_32f_boyfriend_36m_lied_about_his_age_by_a/

to break it down

- every single year wasted not getting pussy is a terrible waste, you do not get to win later, your anxiety/rage over the passage of time is justified
- just looking young and being fit is actually NOT enough, your age is checked specifically, like you're a car for sale
- trying to stay young and healthy doesn't work, you are just sweetening the deal for a fat old pigwoman to enjoy
- women's abundance mindset means they will immediately cut off any man they catch lying about his age, it's not a "secret way in"

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

career now, hot babes later bro

 

[Ghostface]

cause having to deny your biological imperative is a nuclear blackpill, its why the soys on IT that betray their genderino for a crumb of landwhale roastie

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

cause having to deny your biological imperative is a nuclear blackpill, its why the soys on IT that betray their genderino for a crumb of landwhale roastie

my impression is that going for old pigwomen will make your life worse, so it's over for them

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

It's Redpill cope to make other redpillers cope(gymmaxx, careermaxx) and in the end a lot of them will be betabux to lonelyhands whore. I'm pretty sure most redpillers are closeted cucks

it's getting so much worse (36 year old man = impotent grandpa) that i think this late success cope will be abandoned too, the way redpiller PUAs eventually abandoned the idea that looks don't matter

 

[Mecoja]

Its a betabuxxers cope, which is like you said dead. Everyone deteriorate with age, smv can only go down.

 

[Ghostface]

my impression is that going for old pigwomen will make your life worse, so it's over for them

very ovER, rope is preferable instead of once a month starfish sex with a toilet that despises you and more than likely is waiting to snap so she can stab you in the heart with a kitchen knife during sleep.

 

[all this time]

Its a betabuxxers cope, which is like you said dead. Everyone deteriorate with age, smv can only go down.

 

[RicaGames]

A bit off topic but I hate these reddits threads about age. When a man is dating a younger foids everyones complain but when is a younger man with a older foid everyone is cool with that.

 

[nice_try]

Everyone deteriorate with age, smv can only go down.

You don't know what SMV is then. SMV consists of multiple factors, not just biological attractiveness. Many of these factors (money, status, intelligence) increase with age for men, that's why a men's SMV absolutely can increase with age if he stays in shape to minimize his body's deterioration.

 

[SocialzERo]

but pedochads slay smhw

 

[Mecoja]

You don't know what SMV is then. SMV consists of multiple factors, not just biological attractiveness. Many of these factors (money, status, intelligence) increase with age for men, that's why a men's SMV absolutely can increase with age if he stays in shape to minimize his body's deterioration.

Money/status isnt worth much unless youre a multi millionaire who can afford spending large amounts of cash. You have to provide flashy rich luxury life daily for it to matters. I agree with keeping in shape to mog your peers since most people let go of themselves, still you of 5 years ago will still mog you and if you were an incel back then, you will still be. Problem is also the older you get, there's less and less single women around your age.

 

[nice_try]

Money/status isnt worth much unless youre a multi millionaire who can afford spending large amounts of cash. You have to provide flashy rich luxury life daily for it to matters.

I don't think that this black and white style of thinking is applicable to the real world, outside of the internet. Money and status increase your SMV graduately, you don't have to be a rockstar millionaire for it to have an effect. Being able to drive that sportscar and live in your own house already is a singificant increase in SMV compared to you riding the bus and living in your mom's basement.

 

[Mecoja]

I don't think that this black and white style of thinking is applicable to the real world, outside of the internet. Money and status increase your SMV graduately, you don't have to be a rockstar millionaire for it to have an effect. Being able to drive that sportscar and live in your own house already is a singificant increase in SMV compared to you riding the bus and living in your mom's basement.

Youre right.

 

[Zer0/∞]

I don't think that this black and white style of thinking is applicable to the real world, outside of the internet. Money and status increase your SMV graduately, you don't have to be a rockstar millionaire for it to have an effect. Being able to drive that sportscar and live in your own house already is a singificant increase in SMV compared to you riding the bus and living in your mom's basement.

Of course you say that, Mr. I own my own house and drive a BMW

 

[Epedaphic]

At least I have money now to afford escorts if they ever become legal here. Or to travel somewhere where they are legal.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

You don't know what SMV is then. SMV consists of multiple factors, not just biological attractiveness. Many of these factors (money, status, intelligence) increase with age for men, that's why a men's SMV absolutely can increase with age if he stays in shape to minimize his body's deterioration.

you work to increase your SMV as you age, but the women that you are allowed to date also get much older.
you might have a situation where your SMV increases, but slowly and in lockstep with you getting older and thus becoming undesirable to younger women, such that it feels like you are standing still instead of making progress, even though you are working hard.
or at some point you might finally have 'good SMV' but you are disgusted by all the women that you can date, because they are all late 30s bags of wrinkles.
it's not that simple.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

At least I have money now to afford escorts if they ever become legal here. Or to travel somewhere where they are legal.

maybe tho i would only do stuff that can't get you an STD probably. i wonder if there will still be escorts in the near future also. in fact even now i'm surprised they still exist in good numbers.

 

[nice_try]

you work to increase your SMV as you age, but the women that you are allowed to date also get much older.
you might have a situation where your SMV increases, but slowly and in lockstep with you getting older and thus becoming undesirable to younger women, such that it feels like you are standing still instead of making progress, even though you are working hard.
or at some point you might finally have 'good SMV' but you are disgusted by all the women that you can date, because they are all late 30s bags of wrinkles.
it's not that simple.

Well, you're not going to pump n dump 18yo prime girls in their hoe phase as an older guy, that's correct, but you still have chances with girls who are in their twenties and are looking for a long-term relationship. Most, if not all long-term relationships that I know of have an age-gap, it's common.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

High IQ thread.

I believe the pattern of older men being with younger women is something that has persisted over decades, reflecting past societal norms. There was nothing inherently wrong with it, as it was primarily about men establishing themselves, and then providing for their younger partners and families. It was a sort of trade: a man's money and status in exchange for a woman's youth and beauty. However, in today's world, this concept is virtually extinct. Western societies have degenerated due to feminism and the rise of "equality," to the point where many women don't need whatever financial support a man can offer. They can earn on their own, sometimes even more, just by capitalizing on their looks. Just a few days ago, there was a thread about a girl selling her virginity for $52K. How can the average man compete with that?

Still, old traditions tend to outlast their real-world applicability. Some men cling to the notion that they can "provide" for a woman. But unless you're a multi-millionaire, it's mostly a fantasy. If you have average or even above-average wealth, the best outcome you can realistically hope for might be a roastie in her 30s, not some 18-23-year-old who is just waiting to divorce rape you.

Why do some men still hold onto this illusion? The answer is straightforward: it's all they feel they have left. What's the alternative for them? If you're rated below an "8" in attractiveness, you'll likely struggle with dating; if you're below a "5," Its over. This dream is a coping mechanism. Men might tell themselves, "If I just work hard enough and provide, I'll finally experience what Chads have since their teens." Nope, you won't. In her youth, she simply isn't interested in the average normie wage. She places a greater emphasis on looks than on money because she can easily earn a significant amount by herself, whether through platforms like OnlyFans or other avenues. As a woman, she's welcomed with open arms almost everywhere, and she's often placed in a favorable position in many companies. It's essentially a consequence of the unrestricted hypergamy we're experiencing.

thanks bro. it's like you said these women don't need men anymore, not to the extent that they will "bargain" with men and give them something nice in return for the man's providence. they will extract the most benefit that they can from any interaction with a man. and that means forcing men to marry her when she's old and fucked out and has little to offer.
now we just have men trying to live in the past and sort of ignore what women are doing and thinking.... even though it's women that define when sex happens... lol.

 

[Epedaphic]

Well, you're not going to pump n dump 18yo prime girls in their hoe phase as an older guy, that's correct, but you still have chances with girls who are in their twenties and are looking for a long-term relationship. Most, if not all long-term relationships that I know of have an age-gap, it's common.

Just wonder how to even find these

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Well, you're not going to pump n dump 18yo prime girls in their hoe phase as an older guy, that's correct, but you still have chances with girls who are in their twenties and are looking for a long-term relationship. Most, if not all long-term relationships that I know of have an age-gap, it's common.

While I think your general point holds true, the world isn't black and white, most absolute statements made on here would be more correct if they were expressed as changes in distribution, I would be curious if you have seen any very up-to-date data about how common age gaps like that are.

From surveys (obviously women both lie and don't know themselfs, so not a great basis for predictions) female preferance does seem to be for minimal or no age gap. And there is some data to indicate the same:

Since women are increasingly free to express their preferances maximally, I would predict that these type of man 10 years older than his partner realtionsships are getting less common in recent times.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Well, you're not going to pump n dump 18yo prime girls in their hoe phase as an older guy, that's correct, but you still have chances with girls who are in their twenties and are looking for a long-term relationship. Most, if not all long-term relationships that I know of have an age-gap, it's common.

i don't see it much at all but i'll accept regional differences, sure.
it's just that age gap is usually 3 years max outside of rare cases, which is nothing, and if you look at marriage data the age gap is like 30% of the time with a younger man and older woman.

here's some marriage data from Romania to sift through, you can look at the ages, i'm seeing small age gaps, and foreigners that come here to marry women older than them:

Primaria sector 3 Bucuresti

Primaria si Consiliul local al sectorului 3 Bucuresti

www.primarie3.ro

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

here's a cuck that came all the way from Munchen, to marry some old romanian woman that's 3 years older than him.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I don't cope that I'll ascend with younger women, but I will still try dating for a few more years because I feel like I still haven't exhausted myself completely. High IQ thread though. Exposes yet another red pill bs. They were all about enjoying the decline. Well, the decline is here already, what now, you fucks?

Women dating much older men simply doesn't happen anymore because they can always do better. They can find richer and younger men easily or they can get good money by themselves through simps or affirmative action. In younger age groups women out earn men.

I used to think removing material wealth from the dating scene was going to be a good thing, but women somehow got more shallow after it.

 

[prajeet88]

OP is right about this being largely over in the west. It still exists in the developing and third world though. I'm in tech and when I lived in the west I noticed most CEOs and other rich people I knew:

- Either had a good looking wife but who was roughly their age.
- If they had a good looking younger wife she was always a foreigner, either from SEA or slavlandia.

This makes sense. A typical prime-age white stacy isn't going to be interested in some 45yo CEO just cause he makes 10mn a year. She could easily find a 20-something chad who makes 100k/yr. And while 10mn a year gives you a better lifestyle than 100k/yr it's not THAT much better that it's worth fucking an old ugly guy. This is diff to developed world where 100k/yr becomes 5k/yr and 10mn/yr stays 10mn/yr and the lifestyle gap becomes enormous.

Kinda unrelated but I did have a early 50s 6ft4 white housemate (who had good hair but still looked visibly old af) who was obviously in a bad financial situation as he was flatting with 20-somethings at the time. He had several ONSs with young women because of the whole daddy-issues thing he had going for him.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

I don't cope that I'll ascend with younger women, but I will still try dating for a few more years because I feel like I still haven't exhausted myself completely. High IQ thread though. Exposes yet another red pill bs. They were all about enjoying the decline. Well, the decline is here already, what now, you fucks?

Women dating much older men simply doesn't happen anymore because they can always do better. They can find richer and younger men easily or they can get good money by themselves through simps or affirmative action. In younger age groups women out earn men.

I used to think removing material wealth from the dating scene was going to be a good thing, but women somehow got more shallow after it.

they also love to piss off men, whenever they get the chance. this can't be understated.

i imagine if you pressed them they would say that a 40 year old man isn't fertile anymore or can't get an erection, just to fuck with you and tick you off.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

they also love to piss off men, whenever they get the chance. this can't be understated.

i imagine if you pressed them they would say that a 40 year old man isn't fertile anymore or can't get an erection, just to fuck with you and tick you off.

True that. Meanwhile women over 40 are at menopause.

They really have destroyed men. There is nothing good about being one. Unless chad.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

OP is right about this being largely over in the west. It still exists in the developing and third world though. I'm in tech and when I lived in the west I noticed most CEOs and other rich people I knew:

- Either had a good looking wife but who was roughly their age.
- If they had a good looking younger wife she was always a foreigner, either from SEA or slavlandia.

This makes sense. A typical prime-age white stacy isn't going to be interested in some 45yo CEO just cause he makes 10mn a year. She could easily find a 20-something chad who makes 100k/yr. And while 10mn a year gives you a better lifestyle than 100k/yr it's not THAT much better that it's worth fucking an old ugly guy. This is diff to developed world where 100k/yr becomes 5k/yr and 10mn/yr stays 10mn/yr and the lifestyle gap becomes enormous.

well that's where it still gets complicated, because big cities tend to be very similar and have very similar culture now with globalization. you can live in a large city in some developing countries, and the foids behavior is as if they are living in New York. if you are stuck in one of those large cities you may be fucked.

 

[Spyro]

It's already known lol Incels already deal with unattractiveness, making the ladder more out of reach. This is why I'm glad I'm picky anyway. Women I find attractive is like attending a monthly event, like finding a rare gem. And the attraction is random and few in between. This is the best cope I have.

 

[Drakul]

Cope

 

[RicecelBetabux]

Cuz they got the money to betabuxx younger foids

 

[TBIcel]

Id say its possible with moneymaxx but you either a) have to be a multimillionare or b) be willing to exaggerate your wealth in SEA but still need to be willing to drop a few grand.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Id say its possible with moneymaxx but you either a) have to be a multimillionare or b) be willing to exaggerate your wealth in SEA but still need to be willing to drop a few grand.

they don't seem to actually get those decent women though.
and we had bitcoin millionaires on some incel sites, they alternated between using escorts and rotting.

 

[Murder Mario]

Amnesia on looksmax is 34 and LARPs as age 24 and bangs college foids.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

- women's abundance mindset means they will immediately cut off any man they catch lying about his age, it's not a "secret way in"

it is a secret way in if you manage to larp well enough and deflower and impregnate. then after it is done, hole will be much less inclined to leave even if she finds out you're a demon

cute avi btw

 

[Murder Mario]

it is a secret way in if you manage to larp well enough and deflower and impregnate. then after it is done, hole will be much less inclined to leave even if she finds out you're a demon

cute avi btw

Age gap relationships exist one example of a lie not working doesn’t mean enough times won’t work it just got more scarce.

Our issue is our bad looks.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

Age gap relationships exist one example of a lie not working doesn’t mean enough times won’t work it just got more scarce.

Our issue is our bad looks.

yeah he also fucked up by going for oldass hag LEGAL TEEN won't leave after impregnation

this is doomer thread tbh. just take the used roast bro it's all everybody does it's fine jb is off limits either way

also he can just lie again to a different bitch. it's better than becoming a new man and being honest to your roasts

anybody got the drop on his skincare routine that he can larp 10+ years with btw?

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

yeah he also fucked up by going for oldass hag LEGAL TEEN won't leave after impregnation

this is doomer thread tbh. just take the used roast bro it's all everybody does it's fine jb is off limits either way

also he can just lie again to a different bitch. it's better than becoming a new man and being honest to your roasts

anybody got the drop on his skincare routine that he can larp 10+ years with btw?

again if you have any idea how to do get age gap relationship and defend it from predatory normies, just share the wealth

no idea what his routine was but apparently it was pretty high-effort since he had a favorite dermatologist which he visited regularly

 

[Murder Mario]

again if you have any idea how to do get age gap relationship

Well we are incel, but we are speaking hypothetically, so

and defend it from predatory normies, just share the wealth

Tell them to mind their own business. Ask them if they have any issues in their life, say they should focus on those issues, and tell them misery loves company, which is the only reason they are being intrusive.

no idea what his routine was but apparently it was pretty high-effort since he had a favorite dermatologist which he visited regularly

He has spent tens of thousands on surgeries.

@LOLI BREEDING

There are many things he does, but the biggest thing he recommends is NO GLUTEN. Wheat, barley, rye, all have gluten. Also processed grains and oats are bad, avoid those as well. White Rice (not brown) is a decent option. There are also some other grains, and fruit are good for carbohydrates. Those are decent options overall.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

again if you have any idea how to do get age gap relationship and defend it from predatory normies, just share the wealth

yeah I know it's not easy ..

no idea what his routine was but apparently it was pretty high-effort since he had a favorite dermatologist which he visited regularly

yeah. most dermatologists are pretty npc though. at the very least it has to be male

He has spent tens of thousands on surgeries.

@

@LOLI BREEDING

There are many things he does, but the biggest thing he recommends is NO GLUTEN. Wheat, barley, rye, all have gluten. Also processed grains and oats are bad, avoid those as well. White Rice (not brown) is a decent option. There are also some other grains, and fruit are good for carbohydrates. Those are decent options overall.

interesting thx

 

[To koniec]

Cope

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BGC

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Simple, desperate need for some cope. Nothing more.

A bit off topic but I hate these reddits threads about age. When a man is dating a younger foids everyones complain but when is a younger man with a older foid everyone is cool with that.

BGC

 

[PrototypeCel]

career now, hot babes later bro

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kinda sad honestly lol

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

FYI this was never a total doomer thread. i don't plan to ask a granny out.

the issue is the PUA boomers have no idea how to do what they are advertising, which is dating younger women... they are either alone, dating old women or sugardating (prostitution).
and other "shortcuts" like money or fame seem to be losing the power that they had.

so i'm kinda at a loss as to what the master plan is here exactly, because it looks like you are just completely fucked if you ever had to "wait to become a real man" and "build yourself up".
and if that's true then we should acknowledge it as a society instead of still pretending that like 40 year old nobodies with 300k in the bank can go to the club and pick up 25 year old women to be their wives and girlfriends.

everything is just a total disaster, and everyone is always pretending we are living roughly 20-30 years in the past instead of in the horrible now.

 

[naizuri]

asians and their parents are more pragmatic about these things i think. getting a white gf isn't possible for incels no matter what anyway.

 

[Murder Mario]

- women's abundance mindset means they will immediately cut off any man they catch lying about his age, it's not a "secret way in"

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/nsvsb9/guys_does_lying_about_your_age_ever_work/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/nsvsb9/comment/h0pnup0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

@LOLI BREEDING @Made in Heaven

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/nsvsb9/guys_does_lying_about_your_age_ever_work/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/nsvsb9/comment/h0pnup0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

@LOLI BREEDING @Made in Heaven

yes it's great. I love lying

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/datingoverthirty/comments/nsvsb9/guys_does_lying_about_your_age_ever_work/


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@LOLI BREEDING @Made in Heaven

it's becoming more unpopular by the day, and i don't imagine getting laid anytime soon