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Why didn't Trump go full Tiananmen square during the riots?

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I remember when those riots were going on, but I was not yet politically active or informed but in retrospect, I believe it would make far more sense for Trump to send in the military to restore order. Libshitarians will say this is extreme and treads on liberty or some shit, but I think military force for ensuring security is SOMETIMES necessary.
 
America is not a country where you can do that
 
Because he was told not to by his jew jefe
 
because biden was in charge
 
Because the way things work in the US is extremely different from communist China
 
He wanted to invoke the insurrection act, which permits the president to deploy the military unilaterally on domestic soil, to clamp down on political protests

but his subordinates dissuaded him of such a notion
 
America has an armed population, unlike the PRC and other authoritarian countries, where weapons are given only to hunting and only to loyal regime citizen.
 
America has an armed population, unlike the PRC and other authoritarian countries, where weapons are given only to hunting and only to loyal regime citizen.
Cope

Citizens possess neither the means nor the will to mass produce tanks, artillery, or WMDs

What will a few guns in the hands of an atomized populace (rednecks scattered across the American countryside) be compared to that?

Violence is monopolized by the modern nation-state
 
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Cope

Citizens neither possess the means nor the will to mass produce tanks, artillery, or WMDs

What will a few guns be compared to that?

Violence is monopolized by the modern nation-state
Several thousand trained rebels with AR15s, bulletproof vests and helmets can put up a very strong resistance. I don't think the American army will use tanks or aircraft to fight against its people.
 
Several thousand trained rebels with AR15s, bulletproof vests and helmets can put up a very strong resistance. I don't think the American army will use tanks or aircraft to fight against its people.
they will if a Civil War starts

The Insurrection Act allows the President to deploy military troops unilaterally on US soil in the event of an emergency

The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law[1] that empowers the president of the United States to deploy the U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection, or rebellion.
 
Several thousand trained rebels with AR15s, bulletproof vests and helmets can put up a very strong resistance. I don't think the American army will use tanks or aircraft to fight against its people.
Even in a Liberal Democracy, human rights will be curtailed in the event of an emergency,

FDR had Japanese Americans sent to internment camps, not to mention Hawaii was put under Martial Law for the duration of WW2 after Pearl Harbor



Hawaii during the three years after Pearl Harbor was basically a Military Dictatorship
 
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Even in a Liberal Democracy, human rights will be curtailed in the event of an emergency,

FDR had Japanese Americans sent to internment camps, not to mention Hawaii was put under Martial Law for the duration of WW2 after Pearl Harbor

Yes, but the US Army and the National Guard are not aliens, but other Americans and the same part of the people. Not everyone will follow orders, perhaps some officers and sergeants will go over to the side of the rebels.
 
Yes, but the US Army and the National Guard are not aliens, but other Americans and the same part of the people. Not everyone will follow orders, perhaps some officers and sergeants will go over to the side of the rebels.
Ever heard of the Milgram experiment?


Most people are essentially mindless drones who will follow orders

Very few people will rebel against authority



Anyway, I'm going to sleep in a few minutes, so let's continue to debate sometime later
 
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Ever heard of the Milgram experiment?


Most people are essentially mindless drones who will follow orders

Very few people will rebel against authority
I look at historical examples, about 30% of former officers of the Russian Imperial army went over to the Bolsheviks /Workers Peastant Red Army.
 
That was still happening during his first term and attempting to go all Mao Zedong on armed civilians would murder his chances at getting re-elected, even by the standards of his own supporters more than likely.

Plus the riots reflected leftist values, so getting involved instead of letting his rivals commit political suicide would be retarded
 
I look at historical examples, about 30% of former officers of the Russian Imperial army went over to the Bolsheviks /Workers Peastant Red Army.
Russia was a country that was on the brink of collapse due to WW1, not to mention the fact most of the populace were either peasants or industrial laborers who thought they had nothing to lose from a revolution

Contrast that to America, a developed, First World Nation, which is a country that hasn't experienced any substantial civil unrest or invasion since the American Civil War in the nineteenth century, where the average person has ready access to Neetbux and plentiful consumer goods to facilitate coping



NOT to mention the fact that political stronghold of the Reds during the Russian civil war was located in the industrial, urban, and primarily European part of Russia. Which granted them greater latent military potential and helped them win the Russian Civil War over the Whites, whose base of support was located outside major industrial regions

The segment of the American populace who owns firearms are atomized: scattered across the Republican, rural, and relatively impoverished countryside of America, NOT the Northeast nor Northwest, the two most economically vital parts of the US
 
I hope there will be government massacres in USA in a later date. Would be funny watch
 
Russia was a country that was on the brink of collapse due to WW1, not to mention the fact most of the populace were either peasants or industrial laborers who thought they had nothing to lose from a revolution

Contrast that to America, a developed, First World Nation, which is a country that hasn't experienced any substantial civil unrest or invasion since the American Civil War in the nineteenth century, where the average person has ready access to Neetbux and plentiful consumer goods to facilitate coping



NOT to mention the fact that political stronghold of the Reds during the Russian civil war was located in the industrial, urban, and primarily European part of Russia. Which granted them greater latent military potential and helped them win the Russian Civil War over the Whites, whose base of support was located outside major industrial regions

The segment of the American populace who owns firearms are atomized: scattered across the Republican, rural, and relatively impoverished countryside of America, NOT the Northeast nor Northwest, the two most economically vital parts of the US
Industrialized does not mean total victory in a civil war. Food is extremely important. A example is Afghanistan of 2021, where Talibans captured rural lands to surround Kabul. After all, there is no war machine if there is no food.
 
I hope there will be government massacres in USA in a later date. Would be funny watch
I doubt Supreme leader Donald Trump would allow media coverage, but if he did, that would be quite amusing. Amerimutts getting crushed by tanks in Chicago or St Louis or some other shithole
 

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