Serious Why are short men almost allways also bald?

[Copecell]

Has anyone noticed this?

 

[Krezo]

Shit genetics

 

[Deleted member 7573]

I do not know what you're talking about, I personally always see men taller than 1.77m who are getting bald

 

[tulasdanslos]

5'8" and balding, can confirm.

 

[Bagelcel]

Yeah, alot of people are going bald. i'm 6ft2 and i'm losing my hair from my crown. I got a hair transplant though.

 

[Deleted member 8]

Genetics aside, I believe stress also affects hair loss. Suicide rates of short men show that many manlets are on the verge of roping, even more so than the average male. It's a pretty cruel joke. Stress out over being a manlet, which then makes you into a balding manlet.

 

[Evildoer]

Because misfortune never comes alone. If you're genetic trash, you always handle something more than simply balding/manletism alone.

 

[3uxp]

In general more people are balding in our generation I've noticed when watching TV almost everyone has twin heads or receding hairlines or they are NW2 even teens.

 

[Evildoer]

Genetics aside, I believe stress also affects hair loss. Suicide rates of short men show that many manlets are on the verge of roping, even more so than the average male. It's a pretty cruel joke. Stress out over being a manlet, which then makes you into a balding manlet.

Fair point, but i doubt stress (even constant one) have as devastating effect on hair as DHT levels do. Balding almost always means that you have trashcan genetics, not something else.

 

[Creep]

Prly stressed about their horrible life.

 

[maynarde]

Yeah, alot of people are going bald. i'm 6ft2 and i'm losing my hair from my crown. I got a hair transplant though.

Hmmm. well, a lot of short men are hispanic

i dont think they bald quicker than whites

quite the opposite

 

[Deleted member 6470]

They lost the genetic lottery.
Sad but there is nothing they can't do about it.
If they'd take drugs for hair, they'd develop a different problem.

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

Really high testosterone levels can cause raised DHT levels, and thus escrabate hair loss. High testosterone also stunts growth indirectly in adolescence by converting into estrogen in perpherial tissue and maturing bone faster.

 

[Bagelcel]

Really high testosterone levels can cause raised DHT levels, and thus escrabate hair loss. High testosterone also stunts growth indirectly in adolescence by converting into estrogen in perpherial tissue and maturing bone faster.

100% true, but if you're going to go down the route of TRT, you wouldnt wanna take it in adolescence (under the age of 20) anyway, OR if you are you'd take it with an aromatose inhibitor (AI) to stop the estrogenic conversion.

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

100% true, but if you're going to go down the route of TRT, you wouldnt wanna take it in adolescence (under the age of 20) anyway, OR if you are you'd take it with an aromatose inhibitor (AI) to stop the estrogenic conversion.

I was pretty high T in my early adolescence, growing pubic hair at 12 and growing a beard at 14. But the consequence of it was me developing a little bit of gyno and being 3 inches shorter than my projected height.
Youngcels, wait to gear up. Don't do it at a young age or you will regret it.

 

[Bagelcel]

I was pretty high T in my early adolescence, growing pubic hair at 12 and growing a beard at 14. But the consequence of it was me developing a little bit of gyno and being 3 inches shorter than my projected height.
Youngcels, wait to gear up. Don't do it at a young age or you will regret it.

Yeah... Ironically Low testosterone/higher estrogen makes you taller during the end of your puberty, probally the case with me being 6ft2.

 

[Evildoer]

Really high testosterone levels can cause raised DHT levels, and thus escrabate hair loss. High testosterone also stunts growth indirectly in adolescence by converting into estrogen in perpherial tissue and maturing bone faster.

Universal cope for manlet baldcels, going hit the gym, shave head and coping to everyone who mocks you "muh T levels that's why i'm bald and short and also muscular".

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

Yeah... Ironically Low testosterone/higher estrogen makes you taller during the end of your puberty, probally the case with me being 6ft2.

Not high estrogen, but low T/Estrogen causes higher stature. It's the reason less masculine guys end up with taller stature.
Eunches are an interesting case study to look at. Boys who are castrated end up way taller due to almost no T, and as a result, have almost no estrogen to halt growth.
Estrogen insensitivity is also an interesting thing when it comes to height. People with estrogen insensitivity often continue growing even in their 30's.

Universal cope for manlet baldcels, going hit the gym, shave head and coping to everyone who mocks you "muh T levels that's why i'm bald and short and also muscular".

How is it cope?

 

[WarriorSkull]

Found this:
http://jonathangerow.com/connection-height-hair-loss/

Genetic material was taken from a group of over 22,000 men from multiple countries all over the world. Assessing the genetic samples revealed more than sixty different changes for DNA which is capable of increasing the possibility of developing premature baldness. Specifically, this research found four key areas within the DNA that showed a strong correlation between the hair loss in the men and their height.
Men who are short have a much greater chance of developing MPB (Male Pattern Baldness) than those who are of average height or taller than normal. This study is considered to be the largest to be conducted on the phenomenon to date. It draws data from 8 association studies which are genome wide and independent. Over 10,800 subjects who have premature baldness were analyzed, with another 11.600+ men who do not suffer from hair loss. But MPB is not merely linked to men that are shorter; there are also a number of other factors at play.

 

[Bagelcel]

Not high estrogen, but low T/Estrogen causes higher stature. It's the reason less masculine guys end up with taller stature.
Eunches are an interesting case study to look at. Boys who are castrated end up way taller due to almost no T, and as a result, have almost no estrogen to halt growth.
Estrogen insensitivity is also an interesting thing when it comes to height. People with estrogen insensitivity often continue growing even in their 30's.

How is it cope?

hmm i'd have to look more into it, but i figured the extra stature was due to the low T and high estrogen combination as evident in people with klinefelters.

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

hmm i'd have to look more into it, but i figured the extra stature was due to the low T and high estrogen combination as evident in people with klinefelters.

Estrogen speeds up bone maturation, which is why women will always be shorter than men. But high T always raises estrogen levels.
Kinefellers syndrome lowers T levels, which is why they are taller and less stocky.

 

[Bagelcel]

Estrogen speeds up bone maturation, which is why women will always be shorter than men. But high T always raises estrogen levels.
Kinefellers syndrome lowers T levels, which is why they are taller and less stocky.

explains ma 5.8inch wrists at 6ft2 yo

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

explains ma 5.8inch wrists at 6ft2 yo

Estrogen doesn't shrink your bone structure, it helps support it and keeps it from degrading. Androgens modify the action of IGF-1 and causes the areas responsible for male bone structure to grow.
Your small wrists are due to low testosterone, not high estrogen.

 

[Bagelcel]

Estrogen doesn't shrink your bone structure, it helps support it and keeps it from degrading. Androgens modify the action of IGF-1 and causes the areas responsible for male bone structure to grow.

Why do people with klinefelters have more eunochoid characteristics (narrow shoulders, wide hips, small wrists with longer legs/arms)?

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

Why do people with klinefelters have more eunochoid characteristics (narrow shoulders, wide hips, small wrists with longer legs/arms)?

Because of low T.

 

[Bagelcel]

Because of low T.

Someone should've given me more T during puberty. i would've happily sacrificed height

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

Someone should've given me more T during puberty. i would've happily sacrificed height

Sadly all high T did to me was ogreify my looks and made me less attractive to women while making me shorter. Women want a tall, feminine and attractive man. It's all about facial harmony, height, and youth, boyo.
I realized this when I noticed all the JBs fucking the tall feminine guys instead of an ogre like me. Take the ogrepill. It's not totally ogre for you.

 

[Kanakops]

Because that nature does things well

 

[Bagelcel]

Sadly all high T did to me was ogreify my looks and made me less attractive to women while making me shorter. Women want a tall, feminine and attractive man. It's all about facial harmony, height, and youth, boyo.
I realized this when I noticed all the JBs fucking the tall feminine guys instead of an ogre like me. Take the ogrepill. It's not totally ogre for you.

LMAO well maybe there's still hope for me then, i always felt like 5ft9ish wide as fuark boned slightly ogre faced would do better.

 

[Stoiccel]

Bad genes sometimes come in packages.

 

[wandercamp]

Incel traits come in a package.

Chad traits come in a package.

 

[Evildoer]

Because that nature does things well

Nature doesn't give a fuck about balding manlet subhumans and their suffering.

 

[Kanakops]

Nature doesn't give a fuck about balding manlet subhumans and their suffering.

it was sarcastic but yeah it's fucking frustrating for them

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

LMAO well maybe there's still hope for me then, i always felt like 5ft9ish wide as fuark boned slightly ogre faced would do better.

Yeah unfortunately if that was true then I'd probably be a Chad for sure. But girls always use the word "cute" when they talk about the guy they like.
However, if you and me increased our facial harmony, then I might become a masc Chad while you would become a pretty boy chad. You would get more JB pussy, however.

 

[Evildoer]

Chad traits come in a package.

How do i buy Chad genes starter pack? 6'4 height is included?

 

[Bagelcel]

Yeah unfortunately if that was true then I'd probably be a Chad for sure. But girls always use the word "cute" when they talk about the guy they like.
However, if you and me increased our facial harmony, then I might become a masc Chad while you would become a pretty boy chad. You would get more JB pussy, however.

My facial harmony is probally pretty good now (aside from my nose) hide my flaws with a beard LOL so it looks like i have a good jawline. but i still aint getting JB Pussy, have you considerred surgery?

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

My facial harmony is probally pretty good now (aside from my nose) hide my flaws with a beard LOL so it looks like i have a good jawline. but i still aint getting JB Pussy, have you considerred surgery?

Yeah, I've greatly considered surgery. I feel like getting surgery to increase my jaw size would transform me from an ogre to a Chad, but I'm using DHT, increasing hgh/igf-1, and mewing to see if I can fix my improper jaw growth. It might actually be working. If you want to remain a pretty boy, then don't use hgh or DHT. These things are potent masculinizing hormones and will turn you into a literal caveman. Use estrogen instead, it will enhance your jaw and keep you feminine by raising DHT. Just look at the jaws of most transsexual women.

If you are ethnic, I think removing your ethnic facial features and grooming should make you ascend. Also try to hit up the social platforms that they use to see if you get any interest from them.

 

[Bagelcel]

Yeah, I've greatly considered surgery. I feel like getting surgery to increase my jaw size would transform me from an ogre to a Chad, but I'm using DHT, increasing high, and mewing to see if I can fix my improper jaw growth. It might actually be working.

If you are ethnic, I think removing your ethnic facial features and grooming should make you ascend. Also try to hit up the social platforms that they use to see if you get any interes from them.

the only "ethnic" facial feature i really have is my nose really (im north indian) might get a nose job but i already got a hair transplant last year so i can't keep dishing out for surgery, the HT was £6000 and i'll need two more once i start TRT, i look persian overall though. i have a subhuman frame naturally though.
Does mewing ACTUALLY work?

 

[LebaneseCel]

I'm a short man yet I have a lot of hair. However I fear one day that I might actually go bald, since my dad lost his hair at a very young age.

 

[Bagelcel]

I'm a short man yet I have a lot of hair. However I fear one day that I might actually go bald, since my dad lost his hair at a very young age.

Generally Male pattern baldness goes on your mothers side of the family, look at the men in your mothers family to gauge potential baldness level

 

[LebaneseCel]

Generally Male pattern baldness goes on your mothers side of the family, look at the men in your mothers family to gauge potential baldness level

Loads of them are bald. It's over.

 

[Kanakops]

How do i buy Chad genes starter pack? 6'4 height is included?

you can but it's in premium gold lootbox at 200$ and who give you 0.2% of chance to get what you want

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

the only "ethnic" facial feature i really have is my nose really (im north indian) might get a nose job but i already got a hair transplant last year so i can't keep dishing out for surgery, the HT was £6000 and i'll need two more once i start TRT, i look persian overall though. i have a subhuman frame naturally though.
Does mewing ACTUALLY work?

It can work. It really depends on if your bone is in an anabolic state or not, and using hormones puts them in an anabolic state. The reason mewing works is because bone grows depending on the forces acting on it. Proof of concept is in how ancient tribes would make people wear something around their heads to change their head shape.

If you want to increase your frame, use hgh. People with acromegaly have enormous frames. I don't have hair loss yet, but I'd also recommend using minoxidil to see if you get hair growth back.

 

[Bagelcel]

It can work. It really depends on if your bone is in an anabolic state or not, and using hormones puts them in an anabolic state. The reason mewing works is because bone grows depending on the forces acting on it. Proof of concept is in how ancient tribes would make people wear something around their heads to change their head shape.

If you want to increase your frame, use hgh. People with acromegaly have enormous frames. I don't have hair loss yet, but I'd also recommend using minoxidil to see if you get hair growth back.

Already been using minoxidil for a few years, it wont give me growth but it'll continue helping me keep my hair, i wont be using HGH though cause i'll only get minimal bone growth gains from it and the side effect wouldnt be worth it.
TRT though i'll 100% be using, the subsequent DHT will cause hair loss... but thats why i'm getting two more hair transplant or one of those hair systems.
Might consider mewing too, im not sure how bad my chin is currently

 

[PleaseKillMeLoseSkin]

I believe that there are more men that are incels than we are lead to believe since no normie would ever admit that shit. I remember reading a study here about how DNA changes on how it handles cortisol specifically when it comes to inflammation due to stress and loneliness (ie. never fucking). The cortisol creates excess estrogen which then your body creates excess DHT that counteract the estrogen but also attacks hair follicles and since the way that your body handles inflammation is fucked your hair starts falling off quicker and your body treats your hair loss as a wound which causes calcification of the scalp, this also leads to reduced blood flow to the hair follicles which causes the hair that you grow to be thin and brittle, this is why chads get to keep full heads of hair.

Example of cupping to a man that is losing hair in crown area, notice the coagulation of the blood this is due to the calcification process it's similar to a nasty wound healing over and your scar looks sorta shiny silverish.

 

[Bagelcel]

I believe that there are more men that are incels than we are lead to believe since no normie would ever admit that shit..

Admit what? and my brother like 70% of men are incels, most are just coping or waiting to betabux and be cucked inevitably

 

[PleaseKillMeLoseSkin]

Admit what? and my brother like 70% of men are incels, most are just coping or waiting to betabux and be cucked inevitably

To being incels, normies will lie to the teeth about having banged a ton of hot girls when in reality all they bang are a bunch of land whales that don't even wash their ass maybe two times out of the year. This is the reason for the skyrocket in the amount of balding amoungst young men it's happening to the undesirables it's a red flag that women know to avoid these kinds of men.

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

Already been using minoxidil for a few years, it wont give me growth but it'll continue helping me keep my hair, i wont be using HGH though cause i'll only get minimal bone growth gains from it and the side effect wouldnt be worth it.
TRT though i'll 100% be using, the subsequent DHT will cause hair loss... but thats why i'm getting two more hair transplant or one of those hair systems.
Might consider mewing too, im not sure how bad my chin is currently

I've personally used hgh releasing peptides for a year, and I can safely say that I've had no bad side effects at all aside from ones experiences during a growth spurt. Hgh pupsate pattern is also changed by androgens, so growing your jaw and frame will obviously be easier if you also use hgh. If you want results, you have to takE Risks imo.
If you do TRT, keep in mind that DHT will be raised as well as estrogen, so be careful. Both of these hormones should also help grow your jaw though.

 

[Bagelcel]

I've personally used hgh releasing peptides for a year, and I can safely say that I've had no bad side effects at all aside from ones experiences during a growth spurt. Hgh pupsate pattern is also changed by androgens, so growing your jaw and frame will obviously be easier if you also use hgh. If you want results, you have to takE Risks imo.
If you do TRT, keep in mind that DHT will be raised as well as estrogen, so be careful. Both of these hormones should also help grow your jaw though.

How much wrist circumferance increase would i be looking to get after a year of HGH and like.. shoulder width (Bone)? i'm curious as fuark right now.

 

[CroMagnonBoy]

How much wrist circumferance increase would i be looking to get after a year of HGH and like.. shoulder width (Bone)? i'm curious as fuark right now.

I didn't measure the thickness change, so I couldn't give you a number. But the increase was significant enough to be noticeable. You could also do LSJL on your joints to increase thickness and possibly increase limb length.

As far as shoulders, they may grow depending on the growth plates. If they are fused, your shoulders will likely not increase in size unless you gymcel. The good news is that they stay open far longer than the bones in your legs and arms, allowing someone in their 20's tops to increase clavicle.