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Why are mass shooters so bad at mass shootings?

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The Pheonix shooter only killed 2 people and wounded another 6. Why is it so common for mass shooters to fuck up so badly recently? If the news reports that these people trained consistently with their guns, then why did ER kill 3 times as many people while dual wielding his fucking glocks like a cowboy with zero training before hand?
 
alot of it comes down to training and luck. if they dont have any of the two then its bound to end badly
 
alot of it comes down to training and luck. if they dont have any of the two then its bound to end badly
Why not just go to a big crowd of people like a club or something? You don't even have to go inside, just shoot the people lined up.
 
Why not just go to a big crowd of people like a club or something? You don't even have to go inside, just shoot the people lined up.
most shooters these days act impulsively and dont plan that well. but even if they did there have been instances of shooters getting tackled and stopped before they could do anything
 
most shooters these days act impulsively and dont plan that well. but even if they did there have been instances of shooters getting tackled and stopped before they could do anything
Best way to not get tackled is by doing this.
 
if you really want to do it, prepare well to at least be around Tarrant record, otherwise it's not worth it.
 
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They should've joined the military first and gotten good at handling firearms
 
Most mass shooters are not "psuedocommandos".


Most shooters don't seem to "revenge against the world".

Besides, shooting and killing is hard in reality. The recoil, the blood, screaming, noise etc. have you played a military sim like ARMA, shooting against a zip zaping (left and right movement) target? It's hard to aim in real life, especially with low velocity pistols.

And there's improved drills, concealed carry, and faster responses these days.

That's why truck attacks generate higher kill toll these days. Hard to intercept, hard to regret, doesn't require much aim skills, seperates the attacker from the traumatic experience of carrying out a killing. Much less personal.
 
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They mostly act emotionally,
 
They should've joined the military first and gotten good at handling firearms
Most soldiers can't stomach the stress of killing civilians en masse. Even the most gung ho of blackwater PMCs only shot at cars, with the peer pressure of other soldiers.

The fanatics of SS and Japan only did it under meth, and even then, shooting civilian give them traumatic experienced, that's why gas Chambers were invented.
 
if you really want to do it, prepare well to at least be around Tarrant record, otherwise it's not worth it.
Tarrant KDR these days is hard to pull off. Even double digit KDR is very rare.
 
Most mass shooters are not "psuedocommandos".


Most shooters don't seem to "revenge against the world".

Besides, shooting and killing is hard in reality. The recoil, the blood, screaming, noise etc. have you played a military sim like ARMA, shooting against a zip zaping (left and right movement) target? It's hard to aim in real life, especially with low velocity pistols.

And there's improved drills, concealed carry, and faster responses these days.

That's why truck attacks generate higher kill toll these days. Hard to intercept, hard to regret, doesn't require much aim skills, seperates the attacker from the traumatic experience of carrying out a killing. Much less personal.
Using a gun already makes it seem not very personal. From what I've seen with tarrant's bodycam footage. They just drop like ragdolls.
 
Would you be able to?
I won't, and isn't planning to do something like this, rather I am just interested in the (evil) mass killing incidents.

But i am not the one to declare that I can take on the whole world with just a baseball bat, much like the delusional shooters thought, so no.
 
But i am not the one to declare that I can take on the whole world with just a baseball bat, much like the delusional shooters thought, so no.
I mean that sort of a mindset is probably necessary for someone to snap and actually go ahead and commit a mass shooting. Otherwise no one would see the point in doing so. Not really.
 
I mean that sort of a mindset is probably necessary for someone to snap and actually go ahead and commit a mass shooting. Otherwise no one would see the point in doing so. Not really.
Brenton never expected high kill count in his manifesto, and his manifesto was extremely rational, so I don't think so.

Also, kill count isn't everything. I think he chosen NZL because such killing haven't been like in there before. If Brenton attacked in USA, it would just be passed off as "another mass shooting"; likewise if he picked to do it in Afghanistan it would just be "another terrorist incident", but not in NZL. Plus, unfamiliarity with mass shootings also help with kill count.
 
Brenton never expected high kill count in his manifesto, and his manifesto was extremely rational, so I don't think so.

Also, kill count isn't everything. I think he chosen NZL because such killing haven't been like in there before. If Brenton attacked in USA, it would just be passed off as "another mass shooting"; likewise if he picked to do it in Afghanistan it would just be "another terrorist incident", but not in NZL. Plus, unfamiliarity with mass shootings also help with kill count.
True, Cuckzealand was completely oblivious to mass shootings. If it was in burgerland, the police would be much better equipped and ready to deal with it. Even schools are taught how to respond in the case of an active shooting in the States. Certainly not the case in NZ.

Speaking of which I believe he should've killed himself afterwards. Would you if you were in such a situation?
 
Yes I would, such action is alike to suicide. Staring at a concrete wall for next 70 years doesn't sound fun.

Escaping from going ER is another delusion that many killers thought of. Nah, it wouldn't be possible, and if you did escaped from a country interpol would be involved. Even if they aren't, you'll be arrested by the local authority as a dangerous radical
 

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haha, nigga has a really good aim tbh. Is he a former commando or what
Probably trained with it a bit. I'm more impressed with his quick reaction to the white worker though. "Help" he said. "Sorry" Payton responded. It's almost comedic.
 
Probably trained with it a bit. I'm more impressed with his quick reaction to the white worker though. "Help" he said. "Sorry" Payton responded. It's almost comedic.
lmao yea. Btw was he just killing people of colour or what
 
I've always thought of a bayonet as a potential anti-approach device, but I'm not sure it's effectiveness in a mass shooting, and will definitely not find out in my own hands.
Yes bayonets have a psychological effect on prisoners. Could definitely be useful against civilians, especially if it's a crowd.
 
I have it.

Credits to Payton Gendron for the gaming livestream footage.
Lmaooo at the white dude screamed and how the shooter said sorry. I guess he was targeting only blacks? Didn’t he shoot another white dude right before though? I guess it was accidental
 
Many lack experience with guns and act impulsively
 
There are no 100% guarantees of lethality even with skills. There are too many moving factors involved. Angles and targets and whatnot...

Pistol rounds are far less lethal than rifles. No, "hydrostatic shock"

And then there's aiming and calmness. At the twich level a fraction of a mm at the barrel, translates to a potential miss of several feet/ meters.

Add movement and you would be suprised at how few shots land on a target.

Forget about the moving guy on a horse shooting a moving guy on a train with a pistol. It's odds are very low.

Same applys to warfare and murders. Any movement is better than none. "Get off the x!"

Then there's random luck. Sometimes a 1/2 pea sized bullet from a single shot .22 rifle can kill someone in one lucky shot. Sometimes it's a matter of subconscious need!
And sometimes it's just a pure accident.

Calmness and knowledge of the tool helps a lot. As well as desire.
 

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