Whitepill is bluepill

[FakeFakecel]

It can be argued that the whitepill is the final stage of the blackpill,however,I've observed that most of the whitepilled incels (that i know irl/online) soon move on to bluepilled shit. How does a truecel even get whitepilled? How do you muster even the slightest sliver of hope out of your circumstances? It baffles me.

Btw,coping is not whitepill,that's not what I mean here.

 

[Nikalas]

Whitepill is more when you give up on being hateful and try to live your best life despite your unfortunate circumstances. Black pill is the theory of why men are lonely due to genetics and why you should rot and die, whitepill is the same without the rot and die part.

 

[Serpents reign]

Whitepill is more when you give up on being hateful and try to live your best life despite your unfortunate circumstances. Black pill is the theory of why men are lonely due to genetics and why you should rot and die, whitepill is the same without the rot and die part.

White pill also gives you a sense of pride and purpose. At least it's different from what the blue pilled world says you're purpose and prospects actually are.

 

[Epedaphic]

How do you muster even the slightest sliver of hope out of your circumstances? It baffles me.

I don’t know but I hope I can manage it someday. Even if it seems impossible.

I guess even that sentiment is bluepilled in a way.

 

[Confessor]

It can be argued that the whitepill is the final stage of the blackpill,however,I've observed that most of the whitepilled incels (that i know irl/online) soon move on to bluepilled shit. How does a truecel even get whitepilled? How do you muster even the slightest sliver of hope out of your circumstances? It baffles me.

Btw,coping is not whitepill,that's not what I mean here.

Tbh the ultimate conclusion of blackpill is to off yourself. Since most incels do not off themselves we are all kinda whitepilled in a way.

 

[FakeFakecel]

try to live your best life despite your unfortunate circumstances.

Well,that's called coping

you give up on being hateful

Yeeeeah maybe it just ain't for me

How can you stop being hateful towards people who hate you as well?

 

[FakeFakecel]

I don’t know but I hope I can manage it someday. Even if it seems impossible.

I guess even that sentiment is bluepilled in a way.

As long as you keep your expectations realistic,I don't think seeking to improve your life is bluepilled

 

[Drakul]

All that sounds nice in theory but I feel it's a cope for people in their mid/late 20s when the best of your life is over but you're not old enough to truly realize how much is over.

Kids in their late teens and early 20s are still in the phase when they're seeing their life slipping away from them and are supposedly to live the apex of their existence so it's not possible for them to not seethe.

At the same time geriatric embittered old devils that are way past 30 realized that every cope has an end and denying that your life was a complete scam is no longer possible, you feel as you need a refund from God/nature and you can't abandon your brooding resentment as it would be like letting him and his humans win. Accepting this utter defeat is the ultimate cuckoldry and being in a way content with your inferiority.

It's like as if the devil accepted defeat and remained in hell coping and being ok with the punishment instead of constantly attacking even if it's vain. It's said in Paradise lost by him (or by Beelzebub can't remember) : "a defeat is never complete and only half of it if you're submitted only through force". The implication being your complete annihilation comes only through acceptance of your position. Another quote this time I'm pretty sure by Satan

"What matters if we lost as long as we have our scheme of vengeance and the immortality of our hatred?"

 

[Soulflayer]

Whitepill is more when you give up on being hateful and try to live your best life despite your unfortunate circumstances. Black pill is the theory of why men are lonely due to genetics and why you should rot and die, whitepill is the same without the rot and die part.

blackpill isnt just about "muh genetics" thats what some inceltear user would say

 

[Drakul]

How do you cope at such age?

Hatred, evil plans of a cERtain kind, animals and console rpgs.

 

[Nikalas]

How can you stop being hateful towards people who hate you as well?

Don't ask me

 

[Nikalas]

blackpill isnt just about "muh genetics" thats what some inceltear user would say

It literally is (originally) what it is. Blackpill details every single reason an ugly/short/autistic man is lonely

Scientific Blackpill

The Scientific Blackpill is about understanding the nature of human social and sexual behavior with a particular focus on evolutionary psychological perspectives...

incels.wiki

 

[Soulflayer]

It literally is (originally) what it is. Blackpill details every single reason an ugly/short/autistic man is lonely

Scientific Blackpill

The Scientific Blackpill is about understanding the nature of human social and sexual behavior with a particular focus on evolutionary psychological perspectives...

incels.wiki

yes and not every reason is genetics. i cant think of a single thing on my life that i blame genetics on

 

[CircumcisedClown]

The whitepill is when you stop giving a fuck about women and all their opinions, and you realize you don’t even want to bring kids onto this shit Earth. You live life focused on the things you want that aren’t femoid related, and you fuck hookers if you need release.

This is where I’m at. I don’t want

>A wife
>Kids
>A family
>Retirement

I want to live life and die when the time is right.

I still want to experience a foreskin just once. For that, there is no hope. The world won on that one, and there is no solution for now.

I hope to see the nukes fly in my lifetime.

 

[Nikalas]

yes and not every reason is genetics. i cant think of a single thing on my life that i blame genetics on

You are not an incel then?

 

[Soulflayer]

You are not an incel then?

i never had sex or a gf or even a kiss, pretty sure i am incel

 

[FakeFakecel]

I still want to experience a foreskin just once. For that, there is no hope. The world won on that one, and there is no solution for now.

I agree man mutilated genitals fucking suck

The thing is I don't want to experience a ''foreskin'' because it literally is just a part of your penis,not a separate thing-I just want my penis to be complete again

 

[Nikalas]

i never had sex or a gf or even a kiss, pretty sure i am incel

But if you have no faults in your genetics then you should be able to find one easily

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

yes and not every reason is genetics. i cant think of a single thing on my life that i blame genetics on

well, then you are wrong

your personality is genetic, your social / financial status is highly dependend on your and your parent's IQ which is largely genetic, neuroticism, looks, NT or non-N, weight, almost nothing is not at least partly genetic or indirectly influenced by ones genes.

 

[Soulflayer]

But if you have no faults in your genetics then you should be able to find one easily

bluepilled

well, then you are wrong

your personality is genetic, your social / financial status is highly dependend on your and your parent's IQ which is largely genetic, neuroticism, looks, NT or non-N, weight, almost nothing is not at least partly genetic or indirectly influenced by ones genes.

looks are the only thing you said that is actually genetic

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

bluepilled

looks are the only thing you said that is actually genetic

nope. you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Soulflayer]

nope. you have no idea what you are talking about.

you literally said weight is genetic dumb fuck. weight depends on how much / what stuff you eat and personality depends on your environment. the only true genetic thing you said is facial looks

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

you literally said weight is genetic dumb fuck. weight depends on how much / what stuff you eat and personality depends on your environment. the only true genetic thing you said is facial looks

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you combine that with being overly confident and condescending. I have no interest in investing time and effort to improve the accuracy of someone's model of reality when that person isn't even capable of basic courtesy or intellectual curiosity. You can keep living in your dream world for all I care.

 

[Soulflayer]

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you combine that with being overly confident and condescending. I have no interest in investing time and effort to improve the accuracy of someone's model of reality when that person isn't even capable of basic courtesy or intellectual curiosity. You can keep living in your dream world for all I care.

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you sound like an obese redditor who thinks he is super smart. this forum isnt for you.

 

[Carpanesi]

Tbh the ultimate conclusion of blackpill is to off yourself. Since most incels do not off themselves we are all kinda whitepilled in a way.

death of the undesirable is what those responsible for our condition want, even though they'll never admit to it

That's why they bully incels and why pages like inceltears exist. suicide is not the final stage of any pill/philosophy, it's the end goal for the ones who bully us, for us to kill ourselves and leave everything else to them

I'll never off myself no matter how bad it looks, or how hard I get bullied, just so they can never claim their secret and dark victory over me

 

[Carpanesi]

you literally said weight is genetic dumb fuck. weight depends on how much / what stuff you eat and personality depends on your environment. the only true genetic thing you said is facial looks

height is also 99% genetic

 

[Soulflayer]

height is also 99% genetic

if you are short with short parents = your height is genetic
if you are short with average height parents = your height got stunted by environment

 

[Carpanesi]

bluepilled

looks are the only thing you said that is actually genetic

Nonsense. looks can be completely revamped by use of either cheap cosmetics or surgery.

Even the appearance of bone structure (and to some degree bone structure itself) can be altered through surgery and implants

Even height can be boosted by LL surgery (but it only lenghtens your legs, your torso will be same size)

But yes, most of it is completely genetic and no one can get much from those procedures

Also there are tricks to looking better withouth that (haircut, beard etc)

 

[Carpanesi]

if you are short with short parents = your height is genetic
if you are short with average height parents = your height got stunted by environment

This isn't how it works

Genetic is the most important factor, hands down. It can't be changed. environment can. Saying it isn't genetic but environmental is the same as saying property value isn't always tied to location (unchangeable) but to whatever was build (changeable). It's not a lie per se, but any real estate investor would put location above everyting else when working

 

[Soulflayer]

This isn't how it works

Genetic is the most important factor, hands down. It can't be changed. environment can. Saying it isn't genetic but environmental is the same as saying property value isn't always tied to location (unchangeable) but to whatever was build (changeable). It's not a lie per se, but any real estate investor would put location above everyting else when working

you clearly didnt read the post at all. there is a difference between being genetically short (lets say 5'7 with 5'2 mom 5'7 dad) and being 5'7 with 5'5 mom 5'11 dad. second one means your growth was stunted

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

This isn't how it works

Genetic is the most important factor, hands down. It can't be changed. environment can. Saying it isn't genetic but environmental is the same as saying property value isn't always tied to location (unchangeable) but to whatever was build (changeable). It's not a lie per se, but any real estate investor would put location above everyting else when working

It also ignores how genetics form the enviorment around you by influencing both your capabilities and preferances, changing what you can and what you want to do. But he's even more wrong about just the basics of why people end up differing so much in e.g. weight and he's obviously never heared of the results of any of the twin studies on the topic.

 

[Carpanesi]

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you combine that with being overly confident and condescending. I have no interest in investing time and effort to improve the accuracy of someone's model of reality when that person isn't even capable of basic courtesy or intellectual curiosity. You can keep living in your dream world for all I care.

Weight isn't genetically defined unless in very rare, incredibly uncommon cases. weight is literally what and how much you each and how much you spend

If you have a calorie deficit you'll lose weight, if you have a surplus you'll get fat. otherwise you'll just mantain your overall weight

Also, body mass index and such are trash and mostly just make people less focused. most strenght athletes like bodybuilders have higher body mass index than overweight karens (muscle is 15% denser than fat, and their bones are also more dense due to training) and are far healthier. None of that is caused directly by genetics

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

you clearly didnt read the post at all. there is a difference between being genetically short (lets say 5'7 with 5'2 mom 5'7 dad) and being 5'7 with 5'5 mom 5'11 dad. second one means your growth was stunted

I feel sorry for the terrible rolls you got in the genetic lottery when it comes to intelligence.

 

[Carpanesi]

you clearly didnt read the post at all. there is a difference between being genetically short (lets say 5'7 with 5'2 mom 5'7 dad) and being 5'7 with 5'5 mom 5'11 dad. second one means your growth was stunted

Those are exceptions and not the rule
Having short parents pretty much guarantees you'll be short forever. But if they're normal or tall, you will be tall as long as you eat correctly and don't have a rare disease.

 

[Phallusy]

The whitepill is when you stop giving a fuck about women and all their opinions, and you realize you don’t even want to bring kids onto this shit Earth. You live life focused on the things you want that aren’t femoid related, and you fuck hookers if you need release.

This is where I’m at. I don’t want

>A wife
>Kids
>A family
>Retirement

I want to live life and die when the time is right.

I still want to experience a foreskin just once. For that, there is no hope. The world won on that one, and there is no solution for now.

I hope to see the nukes fly in my lifetime.

I’m still whitepilled on the hope that an ELE comet or planet is on a direct trajectory to Earth or a massive worldwide collapse. I’ve given up the whitepill about advanced ETs and shit like Nibiru tho. Lol

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Weight isn't genetically defined unless in very rare, incredibly uncommon cases. weight is literally what and how much you each and how much you spend

If you have a calorie deficit you'll lose weight, if you have a surplus you'll get fat. otherwise you'll just mantain your overall weight

Also, body mass index and such are trash and mostly just make people less focused. most strenght athletes like bodybuilders have higher body mass index than overweight karens (muscle is 15% denser than fat, and their bones are also more dense due to training) and are far healthier. None of that is caused directly by genetics

You are not thinking it through to the end. Why are some people able to keep up a diet that stabilizes at a healthy body weight and some aren't? You also haven't seen a single twin study. You have just absorbed 20 year old ideas about calories in / calories out which haven't been updated to integrate the newer research findings from behavioral genetics.

 

[Soulflayer]

I feel sorry for the terrible rolls you got in the genetic lottery when it comes to intelligence.

you didnt answer shit you just throw baseless insults. i have spoken to people who know for sure they stunted their growth while you say everything is genetic. whos the low iq one now?

 

[Phallusy]

It can be argued that the whitepill is the final stage of the blackpill,however,I've observed that most of the whitepilled incels (that i know irl/online) soon move on to bluepilled shit. How does a truecel even get whitepilled? How do you muster even the slightest sliver of hope out of your circumstances? It baffles me.

Btw,coping is not whitepill,that's not what I mean here.

Well, most things happen in cycles, so perhaps once one reaches the peak of the whitepill, they’re delved right back into the bluepill and the cycle continues

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

you didnt answer shit you just throw baseless insults. i have spoken to people who know for sure they stunted their growth while you say everything is genetic. whos the low iq one now?

you literally said weight is genetic dumb fuck. weight depends on how much / what stuff you eat and personality depends on your environment. the only true genetic thing you said is facial looks

 

[Friezacel]

Whitepill is more when you give up on being hateful and try to live your best life despite your unfortunate circumstances. Black pill is the theory of why men are lonely due to genetics and why you should rot and die, whitepill is the same without the rot and die part.

 

[Carpanesi]

You are not thinking it through to the end. Why are some people able to keep up a diet that stabilizes at a healthy body weight and some aren't? You also haven't seen a single twin study. You have just absorbed 20 year old ideas about calories in / calories out which haven't been updated to integrate the newer research findings from behavioral genetics.

It's physics, not biology. No human can accrue more mass than the body intakes.

Mass isn't created like that. Though there are genetical factors, as long as someone intakes less calories than it burns on activities - especially higher intensities - then it physically can't gain weight/mass.

There's also the factor of body composition, which also follows closely what you eat - that's why athletes eat a lot of protein. A more muscle-oriented body requires proportional protein

So, yes there are genetical factor involved but as long as you follow a diet and exercise program, you will get lean/stronger. This is completely different from height.

 

[Carpanesi]

I can say for sure as I have a certain predisposition to accrue fat. I stopped eating fatty foods and high calorie shit because I somehow got my palate accostumed to low sugar food and vegetables, sugary foods and especially fat from meat taste bad for me.

I've lost many kg over last 2 year without ever lifting weights or running. I can't remember last time I ever ran tbh

Only eating cheaper food (vegetables and eggs for protein, I can get a 30-piece package by less than 20 reais / 4 USD) made me less fat

I'm still overweight though

 

[Carpanesi]

You are not an incel then?

You mean he's not a blackpilled incel

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

stay intellectually incurious i guess

 

[Carpanesi]

But if you have no faults in your genetics then you should be able to find one easily

That's not how it works at all. that's blackpill, not inceldom. not every incel has genetic problems, and many guys with faulty genes live normal lives without problems to get gfs

 

[Carpanesi]

stay intellectually incurious i guess

I didn't exactly disagree with you. It's obvious that some people can mantain shape with less effort than others

But as long as you follow a diet and an exercise program, you will, 100% of the time, lose weight and gain lean mass. Some will have it easier, while some will have it harder. But as long as you follow it, you will get results

You can't compare weight to other nearly immutable conditions, like bone and height

 

[Med Amine]

white, black, red or pink
looks are the only thing that matters, end of thread

 

[Carpanesi]

My advice is stop eating sugar-rich foods

I stopped without a reason, it simply lost appeal to me. Eating sugar treats or drinking soft drinks tastes awful to me. But I used to drink regularly

Alcohol too, I nevel liked it and from the looks of it I'm somewhat allergic to

I'm still overweight despite eating healthier so I won't deny genetic factors, but I'm much less fat than I was before

 

[Carpanesi]

white, black, red or pink
looks are the only thing that matters, end of thread

I disagree

Social status is king, not looks

It matters little if you're the most beautiful male on the planet if you're poor and considered low value by females

Or weaker, getting beaten by others or bullied. Most "twinks" are considered incredibly beautiful by women, yet they never date them because they can't fuck properly and because they're pathetic weaklings

On the other side, Meeks and other bulkier dudes - especially fighters - who are ugly as fuck seem to get all their attention

Same goes for old bald men with tons of money, who have literal harems despite being old, saggy and some are even shorter than us

Social status is king on reality. Looks dominate only at the online dating scenario, because people can add filters and effects

 

[CircumcisedClown]

well, then you are wrong

your personality is genetic, your social / financial status is highly dependend on your and your parent's IQ which is largely genetic, neuroticism, looks, NT or non-N, weight, almost nothing is not at least partly genetic or indirectly influenced by ones genes.

You’re kinda wrong, but the distinction is mute. Personality is largely affected by how you’re treated growing up, but tall, attractive men are treated better from even preschool. Ask any kindergarten teacher about this, and they’ll tell you the tall, cute boys are already stronger, faster, smarter, etc. They already have lots of friends and girlfriends. Chads are bred to be confident from day one. It’s human nature.

I had a girlfriend in kindergarten, but I was nearly a year older (and had a year more of a growth) in kindergarten. Weirdly enough, I was average to small even in my kindergarten class. It’s kind of a miracle I even became average height and not a turbomanlet. I was a year older and still smaller than much of my class. Looking back at my kindergarten photos were a total blackpill. One kid in particular, we’ll call him Brad, really punched me in the gut. Brad was taller and more masculine looking than me even back then, despite being a year younger. Brad is now 6’3”, muscular, and has a Chad face. The writing is on the wall early, but you don’t realize until it’s too late.

I have met some socially inept Chads, but usually because they grew up super poor and were abused by their parents. One Chad guy I know had drug addict parents that beat the shit out of him. He has insecurity issues due to being raised by poor, awful parents that hated him.

But yeah, if it’s not your genes, it’s the money and circumstances you’re born into, which are also beyond your control. Hell, circumcision has nothing to do with genes, but it’s still a dice roll.

I wouldn’t say your parents wealth is entirely dependant on IQ, but even if it were, you’re not a carbon copy of your parents. Your dad can be a genius, and you can be a retard.

That being said, the easiest way to make money is time, and your predecessors have nothing but time. Ideally, your grandparents should die with their home paid off and with a nest egg of retirement savings. That should go to you. Now you have savings and a house, meaning you can be rich with even a modest income.

Unfortunately, many people have to start from scratch in their lives. They start off at 18 yrs old with no assets, no savings. They have to buy their own house, and car, and everything else and start all over. It doesn’t make any sense because their family should have already done these things, but that’s clownworld.