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White incels have a right to care about their race

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Sure, hating every non-white is retarded, but the overwhelming majority of white incels just don't want the white race to go extinct.
Just because a white male is an incel, doesn't mean that he cannot acknowledge the declining state of his culture, race, and identity.

With forced immigration and declining white populations in the west, it is no debate that whites are going to decline in the next few centuries. For example in the United States, the Jewish led Immigration Act of 1965 dropped the white population from around 75% to 50%. In Europe, leftists have allowed millions of non-whites to settle in urban areas, irreversibly changing the genetic landscape of previously exclusively white areas.

The Jewish "Conspiracy" isn't a meme. When looking at the majority of leftist uprisings in the history in Europe, Jews played an enormous role in them. This isn't to say that every Jew must die, it's simply acknowledging a trend in history. Sure, Jews don't secretly control everything, but they play a main role in the decline of the white race.

I'm mixed race, so simply calling me white isn't an argument.
 
Whites will be wiped out in the next few generations.

And it won’t all be mixed breeding.

For example, I am white and I am the last male in my bloodline. Millions of years of evolution ends with me simply because foids will only procreate with chads or (in the very rare case) orbiters or rich cucks.
 
Fuck off back to pol. None of this shit actually matters.
 
Please, just don't. I'm not saying you're wrong, but the people who will argue against this just won't get it and this will turn into a shitshow like the other thread where people are literally arguing 2 entirely different things. They're not even having a conversation, and it'll come here, too.

I love my incel brothers, regardless of their race. I hate anyone who hates me because I'm a male, or because I'm white, or because I'm a manlet, etc. and the society that enables them.
 
Whites chose to close their eyes and die. It's over for us. I just want to exploit whatever little privilege I have left by fucking noodles and then get on a motorbike and crash at 200km/h once I'm done
 

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Yep, pretty much.
 
Glad it has been said
 
you white males are racists!!!
very honky clownpill
 
I agree that you have every right to care about your own people. The thing that I find strange is that you would actually care for a people that really don't care for their own. What is there to save? It's just a bunch of atomized individuals that have no identity.

The second thing is that why is it about the collective of white people? Why not save your ancestory: Swedish, German, etc ... Asians do not claim to care about all asians; they care about their specific groups (Vietnamese, Japanese, .. ). Africans care about their specic groups as well ( Ethiopians, Nigerians, ... ). In my mind, saving the whites is too broad.

If whites wanted to convince each other to save themselves, the first thing they should do is convince each other that there is something worth preserving in each specific lineage of white people. The Swedes should rally behind their history, and whatever other subsection of white people should do the same. What ties the "whites" together? What is the common history among the "whites"?
 
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Having cute adorable loli waifu is importanter than preservation of white race
 
but the overwhelming majority of white incels just don't want the white race to go extinct
We're not all stormcucks.

Black females are generally much nicer to me than whites. Same with black men, as a matter of fact.
 
No race for your face
 
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with not wanting your race to die out. But you should remember that whites are dying out because other whites don't give a shit about their extinction. A group of people can only survive if the majority of them has the desire to survive which seems to not be the case for modern-day whites. I can sympathise with whites because Berber culture is pretty much dying out and most Berbers don't care about preserving it in the slightest.
Whites will be wiped out in the next few generations.
I don't think so, what will happen is that the major cities of the west like Paris and London become mixed-race hellholes filled to the brim with hedonistic mongrels but whites will survive in the countryside and other natural enviroments like mountains. Look up the Kalasha of Pakistan: they managed to preserve their Indo-Aryan genes and proto-Hindu religion by living isolated from muslims in the mountains even though they are surrounded by shitskins. It was only after a British colonial officer 'snitched' about their location to local muslims that they got discovered. Same goes for the Mandaeans of Iraq who managed to preserve their pre-Islamic religion by living in a swamp area which was hard to access for outsiders.
 
Sure, hating every non-white is retarded, but the overwhelming majority of white incels just don't want the white race to go extinct.
Just because a white male is an incel, doesn't mean that he cannot acknowledge the declining state of his culture, race, and identity.

With forced immigration and declining white populations in the west, it is no debate that whites are going to decline in the next few centuries. For example in the United States, the Jewish led Immigration Act of 1965 dropped the white population from around 75% to 50%. In Europe, leftists have allowed millions of non-whites to settle in urban areas, irreversibly changing the genetic landscape of previously exclusively white areas.

The Jewish "Conspiracy" isn't a meme. When looking at the majority of leftist uprisings in the history in Europe, Jews played an enormous role in them. This isn't to say that every Jew must die, it's simply acknowledging a trend in history. Sure, Jews don't secretly control everything, but they play a main role in the decline of the white race.

I'm mixed race, so simply calling me white isn't an argument.
Cope most chads are white and there will always be enough white foids to keep your race alive
 
Who cares, not like white women will fuck you. Instead of chad fucking 5-6 girls per week. He wil fuck 11-12 girl per week.

And ethnic chads would fuck ethnic stacies in their countries.

Only think you’ll achieve is you’ll reduce ethnicels standard of living. Instead of coping in west, hey would have to cope in their shit hole countries
 
What ties the "whites" together? What is the common history among the "whites"?
what ties us together is that all over the world people started shitting on white people for no other reason than being white.

hatred has created many communities in the past.
for example you could argue that the german identity was created by the ancient romans and their hatred of "barbarians".
 
Who cares, not like white women will fuck you. Instead of chad fucking 5-6 girls per week. He wil fuck 11-12 girl per week.

And ethnic chads would fuck ethnic stacies in their countries.

Only think you’ll achieve is you’ll reduce ethnicels standard of living. Instead of coping in west, hey would have to cope in their shit hole countries

Some common sense arguments I keep repeating, that the idiots won't get, I even reiterated your last point (we'd just be downgrading our already shitting lives by moving back to ethnic countries), his point was basically - "you could then go live happily with your own people", this was my response:

Its very convenient to say - "alright everybody back to their parts of the game board" when you own broad walk and park place with hotels on them lol.

"Hey if you want you can go live amongst your people, I mean a lot of these countries we already have power in them, we've drained them of their resources, and made ourselves the "top dog" during the age of colonialism, but hey that shouldn't matter if you want to live with your own kind"

:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Like come on dude, you know its a disingenuous stance

At least try and be honest, you can't pretend like the board isn't set in your favor when you are telling other people to kindly go back to their respective places on the board, especially when you (well your ancestors) were the ones who set it up that way.

One of the best examples of this is the relationship between Haiti and France, in 1825 Haiti paid France what amounted to billions (I think it was 21 if I remember) in order to keep their independence, how the fuck do you demand people to pay you not to enslave them :feelskek:

Then just go about life like its "business as usual"

"Hey if you want, you can just go live amongst people like you in Haiti, that country we drained of resources as payment for us not ruling over them, I mean its only fair, the choice is available"

How about we reset the board and THEN you can rightfully demand that all races return to their respective places, if you can't do that (and you can't because no magic powers lol), then please stop with the disingenuous BS
 
white + incel is an oxymoron
 
High IQ, fuck kike shills who try to shame me for being white. It happens here like it happens everywhere else.
people started shitting on white people for no other reason than being white.
 
what ties us together is that all over the world people started shitting on white people for no other reason than being white.
/thread tbh, but it won't be. There is no white solidarity, there is no secret cabal of white people. There is, however, "POC" solidarity and anti-white groups - governmental and non-governmental. "We" are defined by the movement to destroy us, nothing more. Before that, Germans and Poles (or Serbs and Croats, or Swedes and Danes) barely even considered each other the same goddam species.
 
Yes bro, very high IQ post
 
Don't blame Jews and ethnics for everything. Blame yourselves for not having enough children, for not maintaining the integrity of the family unit, for promoting snowflake individualism and independence over community, for promoting hedonism over stability.
 
people started shitting on white people for no other reason than being white.

Nobody hates white people for being white, they hated white people for being "brazen winners" lol. Whites already won the game via their colonial efforts, good for them, but then they had to go on and be a boastful prideful race, that basically rubbed it in everyones faces, and parade their wealth, and dominate other groups, etc.

Put that together with the fact that white men have been exploiting JBW for years and taking advantage of hypergamy to get ethnic women to choose them over their own men, and you have a recipe for hatred and distrust. Asian and indian men especially do not want white men where they live around their women for obvious reasons, whites are seen as the conquerer race, so that by default makes them more attractive in a sense, so ethnic women see it as a "trade up" to even just get pregnant by one.


In history, between 1880 and 1925, there was a large number of suicides amongst Indian immigrants on plantations in Fiji that reports attributed to sexual jealousy 48. Sexual jealousy was high amongst these immigrants due to the disproportionate ratio of sexes: a high number of men to a low number of women. In suicide reports, sexual jealousy was described as a "racial trait" belonging to Indian men and was evoked when European men slept with their women during an era of European colonization of india.49

Its like - "alright you won, do you have to be so open about it and going around the planet rubbing it in the faces of all the defeated groups, courting their women, etc" lol

Nobody likes "sore losers", people absolutely hate "brazen winners"

If whites had just quietly and secretly enjoyed their wealth in the background like jews, they would not face the problems they do today


Yes bro, very high IQ post

No, very low IQ

Whites NORMIES have a right to care about their race
White INCELS do not

You are the niggers of your own race, you don't even count as part of your race, your race won't even let you breed amongst them while ironically a Tyrone can. Allegiance to a group that rejects and disrespects you in such a way means you are a fucking retard.
 
Some common sense arguments I keep repeating, that the idiots won't get, I even reiterated your last point (we'd just be downgrading our already shitting lives by moving back to ethnic countries), his point was basically - "you could then go live happily with your own people", this was my response:

Yea man, it’ll just make ethicels life hell. These white cells are selfish and don’t care about their ethnicel bros.

They would rather send us back while they maintain their bottom of the barrel lifestyle. But hey Atleast it’s a all a white country now.

If white chad and white stacy don’t give a fuck about “muh white race” then why do the bottom of the barrel white cel care about it so much who don’t benefit at all? Like what’s their end game plan?
Oh what’s that? White women still wont fuck you? Gg you just fucked over ethnicels for no good reason. Cuz ethnic chad and ethnic stacies are still fucking so being in a shithole won’t bother them.
 
"We" are defined by the movement to destroy us, nothing more.
exactly this.
we wouldn't be here talking about this if those groups didn't exist.

Nobody hates white people for being white

you wasted a lot of effort for this post.
when my skin color comes with a history attached to it, how is it not my skin color?
I distinctly remember you stating being ethnic is worse than having autism, so i wont waste my time going into detail.
 
Nobody hates white people for being white, they hated white people for being "brazen winners" lol. Whites already won the game via their colonial efforts, good for them, but then they had to go on and be a boastful prideful race, that basically rubbed it in everyones faces, and parade their wealth, and dominate other groups, etc.

Put that together with the fact that white men have been exploiting JBW for years and taking advantage of hypergamy to get ethnic women to choose them over their own men, and you have a recipe for hatred and distrust. Asian and indian men especially do not want white men where they live around their women for obvious reasons, whites are seen as the conquerer race, so that by default makes them more attractive in a sense, so ethnic women see it as a "trade up" to even just get pregnant by one.




Its like - "alright you won, do you have to be so open about it and going around the planet rubbing it in the faces of all the defeated groups, courting their women, etc" lol

Nobody likes "sore losers", people absolutely hate "brazen winners"

If whites had just quietly and secretly enjoyed their wealth in the background like jews, they would not face the problems they do today




No, very low IQ

Whites NORMIES have a right to care about their race
White INCELS do not

You are the niggers of your own race, you don't even count as part of your race, your race won't even let you breed amongst them while ironically a Tyrone can. Allegiance to a group that rejects and disrespects you in such a way means you are a fucking retard.
Lmao they basically borderline cucks at this point.
 
If white chad and white stacy don’t give a fuck about “muh white race” then why do the bottom of the barrel white cel care about it so much who don’t benefit at all?

Its a cope, they need something to feel inspired by, an unachievable goal to endlessly chase after so their life has meaning and they can keep pushing on, anyone can sit for at least 30 mins and reason out that racial allegiance AS AN INCEL is completely illogical and does not benefit said incel at all, not only that, an ethnostate would be impossible to create in these times.

Literally all it would take for every one of these copers to give up on this nonsense would be to spend 30 mins HONESTLY thinking over the feasibility of their goals, the costs and the benefits.

I'd bet my life these idiots haven't spent even an honest 10 mins thinking about it, and seriously considering how they'd go about creating their ethnostate, its just a cope for them. Ironically they are the ones that will say normies are NPC's and aren't introspective.
 
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Theoretically many Asian families’ bloodlines will die out when whites do, because we all know noodlefoids disproportionately prefer white chads.
 
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If white chad and white stacy don’t give a fuck about “muh white race” then why do the bottom of the barrel white cel care about it so much who don’t benefit at all? Like what’s their end game plan?
Oh what’s that? White women still wont fuck you? Gg you just fucked over ethnicels for no good reason. Cuz ethnic chad and ethnic stacies are still fucking so being in a shithole won’t bother them.
It's not about selfish benefits
 
I distinctly remember you stating being ethnic is worse than having autism, so i wont waste my time going into detail.

I distinctly can't remember saying this, it would be nice if you distinctly quoted me

As for addressing it now, depends on the degree of autism. I have minor autism that allows me to go about not looking and acting "too weird", but full on retard autism is definitely worse than being ethnic. However being ethnic in of itself is worse than having the level of autism I do and maybe even slightly above it.

An average white guy with my kind of autism will have black girls that I would struggle to make notice me, swoon over him, while if I don't act like a nigger and have "swag" I don't have a chance with them.

So yes, being ethnic is worse than having certain levels of autism

If were talking about this autism:


Then obviously being ethnic is better
 
I distinctly can't remember saying this, it would be nice if you distinctly quoted me
check your warnings i reported that brain diarrhea and it got deleted
 
check your warnings i reported that brain diarrhea and it got deleted

Never happened, you are confusing me for someone else, either that or it got deleted without me getting a warning. I would have definitely remembered getting a warning for something that insignificant, as I would have argued it with the mods.
 
Why is it always race on this site? why does it even matter now? we'll all probably be dead in the next 50 years....
 
Whites should blame themselves:

-Renaissance
-Atheism
-Individualism
-Liberalism
-Secularism
-Anti-Traditionalism
-Capitalism
-Mass Consumerism
-Globalism
-Feminism
-Female sexual freedom/emancipation

Ask yourself who's enforcing these ideologies upon the world?
Ask yourself where these ideologies were created and have manifested itself for the first time in human history?
Ask yourself who's still waging war for these ideologies and spreading army bases all around the world to enforce this shit?
Ask yourself who are the people not rebelling against those who enforce this bullshit all around the world?
Ask yourself who created the refugee waves of the modern world?


Answer is: The whites and the Jews.

Whites have always been the psychical power of the Jews and now they're going extinct because their women don't make babies anymore, whites have the lowest birth-rates on this world and yet it's the fault of the refugee and the immigrant that the white race is dying? I don't give a fuck, as long white people don't rebel against their current establishment and don't reject globalist policies I don't give a fuck what happens to them.
 
Some common sense arguments I keep repeating, that the idiots won't get, I even reiterated your last point (we'd just be downgrading our already shitting lives by moving back to ethnic countries), his point was basically - "you could then go live happily with your own people", this was my response:

Lol Ookpillpres refuses to seriously consider anything I said and goes around strutting like the cock of the walk, who thinks he beat all of his competitors because he broke a mirror pecking madly at his reflection.

"So I says to him I says, 'YOU ARE A NORMIE STORMCUCK, who is loyal to NORMIES. Allegiance to your race is THE BLUEPILL because you are not acting in your SELF-INTEREST. You should only consider your incel brothers, because you have a responsibility to not Just Be White cuz of colonializerisms and because ethnic girl love you, so we gots to take your privilege 'brother'. And the Jews are very smart and blackpilked, so it's good when they do it.'"

What can't you understand? It's not about 'worship le storm'. It's about keeping your clawing hands and demanding, insidious perfidy outside of contexts in which they can affect White incels (and yeah, Whites generally). You are only digging yourself a deeper hole with your ludicrous fever dream posts about 'and ITISOVER do JBW in Thailand and colonializers were evil and you deserve me and the blackpilled Jews to bleed you dry ooga booga'

@Modus Coperandi put it succinctly enough:

what ties us together is that all over the world people started shitting on white people for no other reason than being white.
 
I'm sick of all the crime immigration from shitholes brings, in their cultures it may be normal to behave aggressively all the time or run numbers gang game, carry weapons & shit for protection/scam due to poverty & ppl stealing, rampant corruption in the police & might makes right mentality but I don't want it around myself.

Sure you have asshole bully whites but not on the scale highly ethnic ghettos are renowned for, a bunch of angry disenfranchised ppl looking for someone to blame or fuck with because why the hell not will side with the tribe & go against those they see as less in number, weaker or lacking unity in the surrounding vicinity.

In the animal kingdom the strong hunt the weak, when you have a population that have been neutered through generations of an easy life, cucked passive reinforcing religion, endless sets of rules & social conditioning then you introduce an element that are hungrier & have more fight in them, are unified with the group strong; individual weak mindset, have hatred in their hearts from stories grandpa used to tell them, feel they have nothing to lose or just plain old are of a mindset that what they're doing is actually good because they've interpreted their religious text to state that harming those not of your group or inferior to yourself is the way to go. Well basically the invaders will enslave or drive the original host to extinction.
 
Whites should blame themselves:

-Renaissance
-Atheism
-Individualism
-Liberalism
-Secularism
-Anti-Traditionalism
-Capitalism
-Mass Consumerism
-Globalism
-Feminism
-Female sexual freedom/emancipation

Ask yourself who's enforcing these ideologies upon the world?
Ask yourself where these ideologies were created and have manifested itself for the first time in human history?
Ask yourself who's still waging war for these ideologies and spreading army bases all around the world to enforce this shit?
Ask yourself who are the people not rebelling against those who enforce this bullshit all around the world?
Ask yourself who created the refugee waves of the modern world?


Answer is: The whites and the Jews.

Whites have always been the psychical power of the Jews and now they're going extinct because their women don't make babies anymore, whites have the lowest birth-rates on this world and yet it's the fault of the refugee and the immigrant that the white race is dying? I don't give a fuck, as long white people don't rebel against their current establishment and don't reject globalist policies I don't give a fuck what happens to them.
It is true that our own race played a part in our own demise but there are still members worthy of the white race
 
You shouldn't give a fuck about anyone but yourself if you're incel
 
You shouldn't give a fuck about anyone but yourself if you're incel
It is giving a fuck about myself. I have no loyalty to my race any more than I have loyalty to my gender, but feminists attack me because of my race just like they attack me because of my gender. Anyone who doesn't think whites should take issue with being hated for being white is a feminist, pure and simple.
 
It is giving a fuck about myself. I have no loyalty to my race any more than I have loyalty to my gender, but feminists attack me because of my race just like they attack me because of my gender. Anyone who doesn't think whites should take issue with being hated for being white is a feminist, pure and simple.
being hated is an issue but you shouldnt give a fuck about muh future white generations. that shit is irrelevant
 
You shouldn't give a fuck about anyone but yourself if you're incel
We are not primitive animals only capable of "I want thing cause it make me happy, i don't care if others have thing cuz they not me"
 
being hated is an issue but you shouldnt give a fuck about muh future white generations. that shit is irrelevant
This is where the argument always goes off the rails. Every time. These threads (here and elsewhere) always end up with "pro-whites" arguing simply that they're hated for their race and therefore they're fighting against that, and anti-whites saying that all whites are white supremacists who want to kill black people. Two sides have two entirely different conversations. Every time.
 
Lol Ookpillpres refuses to seriously consider anything I said and goes around strutting like the cock of the walk, who thinks he beat all of his competitors because he broke a mirror pecking madly at his reflection.

"So I says to him I says, 'YOU ARE A NORMIE STORMCUCK, who is loyal to NORMIES. Allegiance to your race is THE BLUEPILL because you are not acting in your SELF-INTEREST. You should only consider your incel brothers, because you have a responsibility to not Just Be White cuz of colonializerisms and because ethnic girl love you, so we gots to take your privilege 'brother'. And the Jews are very smart and blackpilked, so it's good when they do it.'"

What can't you understand? It's not about 'worship le storm'. It's about keeping your clawing hands and demanding, insidious perfidy outside of contexts in which they can affect White incels (and yeah, Whites generally). You are only digging yourself a deeper hole with your ludicrous fever dream posts about 'and ITISOVER do JBW in Thailand and colonializers were evil and you deserve me and the blackpilled Jews to bleed you dry ooga booga'

@Modus Coperandi put it succinctly enough:

1. Please stop with the cringe "ook" stuff, I know you want a start a meme, but its a little forced, it will never catch on

2. This right here:
"So I says to him I says, 'YOU ARE A NORMIE STORMCUCK, who is loyal to NORMIES. Allegiance to your race is THE BLUEPILL because you are not acting in your SELF-INTEREST. You should only consider your incel brothers, because you have a responsibility to not Just Be White cuz of colonializerisms and because ethnic girl love you, so we gots to take your privilege 'brother'. And the Jews are very smart and blackpilked, so it's good when they do it.'"

You literally fused two different topics that I never even discussed in relation to eachother, white incels that have allegiance to their race are blue pilled, not because it isn't in their self interest, but because its to the interest of normies, especially Chad and Stacey, it not helping you at all is actually the less significant aspect of how cucked racial allegiance as an incel is, you are basically putting effort in to set up the perfect breeding grounds for white Chads and Stacies, you can't convince yourself that isn't cucked without impressive mental gymnastics

JBW is a seperate issue from this, so nice try at a strawman, nothing you said here was even argued like this

3. Your condescending way of arguing ironically proves the point I made here:
Nobody hates white people for being white, they hated white people for being "brazen winners" lol. Whites already won the game via their colonial efforts, good for them, but then they had to go on and be a boastful prideful race, that basically rubbed it in everyones faces, and parade their wealth, and dominate other groups, etc.

Nobody likes "sore losers", people absolutely hate "brazen winners"

If whites had just quietly and secretly enjoyed their wealth in the background like jews, they would not face the problems they do today

Whites go around acting like dicks, disrespecting all the other races, and then when everyone looks away while the jews fuck you up you are confused, in the same way that I won't run into an alleyway at the sound of a screaming woman, due to the choices women as a collective have made, I couldn't give one fuck about what jews are doing to the white collective, based on what whites have done as a collective.

Allow me to emulate you and create a hyperbole quote (DIFFERENCE IS MINES WILL BE HONEST AN ACCURATE, NOT A MISREPRESENTATION) - "My goodness, you savages ook ook, why won't you support us in our fight against the jews that have destroyed our lives and culture, I mean all we did is drain your nations of resources and treat you as less than, and continue to do so even in present times, while ironically telling you to go back to said resource stricken countries to be among your people. Like come on you should help us beat the Jews that are doing to us, what we do to you, surely me talking condescendingly to you is going to convince you to understand my point of view and support me"

Arguing with you has made me think of a good quote :feelskek:

A nice variation of "better incel than cuck"

BETTER GOOD GOY THAN GOOD BOY

This is going to sound racist on my part, but honestly I expect whites to be smart, yet you guys seem like complete idiots, you don't realize you've made it an easy choice of which side to pick, its not like anyone expects you to kowtow or kiss ass, but at least be respectful, and have a good deal to offer on the table to convince those who you claim are also at threat from the jews to join you

Literally the offer whites have for ethnics is:

"We get our great countries exclusively to ourselves, you get to go back to the countries we helped make shitholes by draining them of resources, that's a great deal isn't it, why aren't you guys eager to sign up and risk your life against the jewish power structure for this?"

Literally what jews offer ethnics:

"Just stick around in these beautiful resource rich countries and breed like crazy, and interbreed with whites, and we'll help you have enjoyable peaceful poverty free lives"

You see jews are the paled skinned people that mastered the art of the deal, regular whites mastered the art of the steal lol. Were well past the colonial age so those raping, pillaging, etc (colonizing/stealing) skills aren't so useful anymore, maybe there's some jew skills you guys need to brush up on.

COME UP WITH A BETTER DEAL

anti-whites saying that all whites are white supremacists who want to kill black people. Two sides have two entirely different conversations. Every time.

Never even seen this
 
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