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Discussion Which sex offenses be legal? v2 with poll

Which sex offenses should be legal?

  • Rape should be legal

    Votes: 20 42.6%
  • Rape should be a crime

    Votes: 20 42.6%
  • Prostitution should be legal

    Votes: 36 76.6%
  • Prostitution should be a crime

    Votes: 9 19.1%

  • Total voters
    47
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V1 post here https://incels.is/threads/should-all-sex-offenses-be-legal.469286 didn't have poll so v2 has a poll.
Also the votes are anonymous for your privacy

Should all sex offenses be legal?

If you think about it all sex offenses are not logical. Anything that matters is covered under physical assault and kidnapping.

Examples of sex offenses:
- rape : forcing someone to have sex against their consent. It should be treated as physical assault.
- prostitution: getting paid or paying for sex. People should have free trade for sex.
- sex trafficking: moving people for sex. It should be treated as kidnapping.

Legalizing of all sex crimes would fix sex crimes in a more natural way. For example a girl wouldn't go to a guy's house since she can't argue that she was kidnapped to go there and it is implicitly assumed she wanted sex if she was going to be there.

Also with birth control it means that sex doesn't even have consequences.

Sex offenses being a crime are more harmful than good.

This is based on the famous 'how to stop rape' proposal by rooshv


For the sake of clarity here is the link quote. It effectively explains why it is important for all sexual offenses to be legalized.





I keep reading in the mainstream media that there is a rape culture in the United States. This issue concerns me since I have a sister who I don’t want to be raped, so I carefully examined the articles on Salon, Buzzfeed, and Huffington Post that were written by professional journalists who pursue truth and justice over mass hysteria and delirium.



What I’ve gathered from the words of these future Pulitzer Prize winners is that women are not getting raped by violent offenders while taking a jog in the park or walking through a dark street—they are getting raped by men they already know, especially at college. I learned that if a man and a woman both drink at a party and have sex, she was in all likelihood raped since she could not give full legal consent. This made me confused because a woman who drinks and has sex is not responsible for her actions, but if that same woman gets into a car and drives it into someone else, causing a loss of life, she would be prosecuted and sent to jail. I couldn’t find an explanation for this inconsistency.



I also read that men must be taught not to rape, which means that they are all born with the capability to rape and have zero instinct to know that taking a woman with violence is improper. Thankfully, a man only has to be told the phrase “rape is bad” at some point after puberty by an overweight feminist to definitively stop his future brutal and bloody rape career. It’s a miracle that more men have not raped their mothers, babysitters, and sisters before being taught in college that rape is actually not a good thing.



I knew from an early age that rape was bad, as was all forms of violence, not just against women but men as well. I also knew that killing, stealing, and having sexual interest in relatives was bad. I don’t remember if someone specifically taught me these rules, but I also don’t remember being taught that the sun rises and sets once a day, or that I will go splat if I jump off a tall building. I don’t know of a single man entering adulthood who thought that rape was good and had to be manually taught it was bad in order to stop him from raping, so when journalists and cultural commentators suggest that the best way to defeat rape culture is to teach men not to rape, I couldn’t possibly agree. I saw a different set of problems instead.



I saw women wholly unconcerned with their own safety and the character of men they developed intimate relationships with. I saw women who voluntarily numbed themselves with alcohol and other drugs in social settings before letting the direction of the night’s wind determine who they would follow into a private room. I saw women who, once feeling awkward, sad, or guilty for a sexual encounter they didn’t fully remember, call upon an authority figure to resolve the problem by locking up her previous night’s lover in prison or ejecting him from school.



By attempting to teach men not to rape, what we have actually done is teach women not to care about being raped, not to protect themselves from easily preventable acts, and not to take responsibility for their actions. At the same time, we don’t hesitate to blame men for bad things that happen to them (if right now you walked into a dangerous ghetto and got robbed, you would be called an idiot and no one would say “teach ghetto kids not to steal”). It was obvious to me that the advice of our esteemed establishment writers and critics wasn’t stopping the problem, and since rape was already on the law books with severe penalties, additional laws or flyers posted on dormitory doors won’t stop this rape culture either.



I thought about this problem and am sure I have the solution: make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds.



The exception for public rape is aimed at those seedy and deranged men who randomly select their rape victims on alleys and jogging trails, but not as a mechanism to prevent those rapes, since the verdict is still out if punishment stops a committed criminal mind, but to have a way to keep them off the streets. For all other rapes, however, especially if done in a dwelling or on private property, any and all rape that happens should be completely legal.



If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone. If rape becomes legal, a girl will not enter an impaired state of mind where she can’t resist being dragged off to a bedroom with a man who she is unsure of—she’ll scream, yell, or kick at his attempt while bystanders are still around. If rape becomes legal, she will never be unchaperoned with a man she doesn’t want to sleep with. After several months of advertising this law throughout the land, rape would be virtually eliminated on the first day it is applied.



Without daddy government to protect her, a girl would absolutely not enter a private room with a man she doesn’t know or trust unless she is absolutely sure she is ready to sleep with him. Consent is now achieved when she passes underneath the room’s door frame, because she knows that that man can legally do anything he wants to her when it comes to sex. Bad encounters are sure to occur, but these can be learning experiences for the poorly trained woman so she can better identify in the future the type of good man who will treat her like the delicate flower that she believes she is. After only one such sour experience, she will actually want to get fully acquainted with a man for longer than two hours—perhaps even demanding to meet his parents—instead of letting a beer chug prevent her from making the correct decisions to protect her body.



The benefits of eradicating rape laws would extend to honest men who unfortunately now live in fear over imprisonment in the case the girl they had sex with had a blood alcohol level of 0.04 instead of 0.05 or some other arbitrary, untested, and made-up value that may imply consent was not fully achieved. There is no more having to guess the interpretation of a woman’s mixed signals or to artificially amp up her base emotions with clownish banter. Because women will never enter a man’s apartment without accepting that sex will happen, he can escort her to his bedroom and romantically consummate a relationship after it was certain he proved himself to be a good and decent man the woman fully trusted. My proposal eliminates anxiety and unfair persecution for men while empowering women to make adult decisions about their bodies.



It turns out that we don’t need more laws, policies, and university propaganda that treat every man like a criminal and every woman like a mild retardate—we need more common sense that can only come from making rape legal. Such a change will provide a mature jolt to American women who have been babied for too long, who are protected and coddled as if they have no agency or intellect of their own. If a woman is indeed a child then maybe we really need to keep promoting “rape culture” as a way to keep them safe, but if they are actual adults, which is often claimed, then we can start treating them like adults by allowing them to take responsibility for the things that happen to them which are easily preventable with barely a strain of cognitive thought, awareness, and self control.



Let’s make rape legal. Less women will be raped because they won’t voluntarily drug themselves with booze and follow a strange man into a bedroom, and less men will be unfairly jailed for what was anything but a maniacal alley rape. Until then, this devastating rape culture will continue, and women who we treat as children will continue to act like children.
 
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Covergn
 
Prostitution should be legal for buyers and illegal for sellers
 
it would create all out anarchy very fast

Lets say two man want to rape same slut. They both have right to do it. If they both have big egos and want to rape her all alone, it would cause struggle between two of them.

Much more sustainable solution is to make foida property for men. You can rape, kill and do whatever you want with your own foid. If you kill it, you can buy a new one.

Also add public foids for the poor ones. You get your timeslot to rape and beat her up, but you cant kill the public foid.
Ok when you put it that way i understand why people don't like the idea of legalizing rape. But i think people don't really realize that in most places rape is effectively legal. The basic expectation is that you wouldn't put yourself in a rape situation in the first place. Rape is like physical contact or bullying you just suck it up if it happens. This seemed to have been normal in society until it got cucked by feminists. The social contract is that if someone rapes you then you would just avoid them physically. For example if a daughter was raped by her father she would just move to live somewhere else. He wouldn't actually be punished.

Sex crimes don't make sense because they depend on consent, and sexual consent is inherently illogical. When chad fucked a Stacy she will basically say ' no no no' while having sex because that is natural human behavior.
The whole premise of sexual consent is just not logical
 
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Prostitution should be a crime. The cucks who pay for it should be thrown in jail too :feelsjuice:
 
I voted that rape and prostitution should be legal.
About rape i get the idea that if a guy and girl hang out you feel weird if the guy can rape the girl. But that really is just more natural. Rape is a natural expression of sex. Even your parents probably raped each other from a legal perspective. Nobody signs consent forms to have sex. How do porn videos go? They always read body language and not explicitly consent to sex using words it removed sexual seduction.
 
prostitution should be legal. it's no different than any other exchange of goods

rape should be illegal. i want societal collapse and restructuring, not societal collapse followed by total anarchy resulting in charismatic chads running street gangs and incels being turned into forced slave laborers
 
I think people don't really understand how primitive cultures and rural areas around the world see sex offenses and rape. The idea of sex offense is basically a modern and urban phenomena that was created from an over policing of human interaction. Sexual harassment and abuse are basically a part of daily life in 'less civilized' societies. Nowadays cucks go crazy but not too long ago before this insane feminization, what actually happened is that people tolerated sexual harassment and abuse at all levels. It was simply accepted that sexual behavior was a mere part of social behavior. Instead of being brutal to rapists and kind to physical assaulters like people are today, they treated both with an equal disdain. Of course raping females was more serious due to pregnancy being unavoidable, but they took precautionary steps, just as people take precautionary steps to avoid murder and theft.

The main problem with rape is the definition of consent which is basically meant to give females the power to arbitrarily put men in prison and not as a means to prevent sexual abuse - foids just have to decide the next day that they didn't like the guy and he becomes a rapist. Though i admit legalizing rape is excessive overcorrection for what should be fixing the definition of rape to be more lenient.

In general though i think that sex offenses are taken way too seriously in society and are just being weaponized to destroy human interaction and social life. Of course nobody wants to get raped but these sex laws are obviously excessive and illogical. If the government is so incapable of limiting its reach of power and tyranny then maybe the government does not deserve power at all and these sex offenses should always be resolved by the local town and never at the federal level. If anything, having a big government be concerned about how you touch your friends is creepy.

I think that in reality nobody actually minds being raped that much since they can easily reverse it with morning after pills and abortions. Even crimes like theft are more serious than sex offenses since the government does not refund people who lose their life savings and valuables to a robber.

The idea that sex offenses are bad because they are mentally traumatic is utterly hilarious. Little kids spend their entire childhood at schools being bullied to death, and commit suicide regularly, sometimes murder each other with knifes and somehow we consider rape to be more traumatic. If anything being stabbed with a knife is way more traumatic. But of course stabbing isn't a sex offense wtf.

Personally i am 1000x more concerned about who is living near me who has a history of stabbing people with a knife than who raped someone.
 
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Ok fine ideally prostitution should be legal and rape should be illegal, but the definition of rape should be more lenient.
 
it would create all out anarchy very fast

Lets say two man want to rape same slut. They both have right to do it. If they both have big egos and want to rape her all alone, it would cause struggle between two of them.

Much more sustainable solution is to make foida property for men. You can rape, kill and do whatever you want with your own foid. If you kill it, you can buy a new one.

Also add public foids for the poor ones. You get your timeslot to rape and beat her up, but you cant kill the public foid.
200 IQ + based. Inkwell. The only thing I disagree with is, You can only beat up a foid to a certain point. e.g blue eyes and bruises are allowed but Slit, cuts, gashes aren't. Nonetheless you are a intellectual brocel :feelsautistic:
 
Why is prostitution even a crime in burger country?
 
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you faggots ahahahah
 
V1 post here https://incels.is/threads/should-all-sex-offenses-be-legal.469286 didn't have poll so v2 has a poll.
Also the votes are anonymous for your privacy

Should all sex offenses be legal?

If you think about it all sex offenses are not logical. Anything that matters is covered under physical assault and kidnapping.

Examples of sex offenses:
- rape : forcing someone to have sex against their consent. It should be treated as physical assault.
- prostitution: getting paid or paying for sex. People should have free trade for sex.
- sex trafficking: moving people for sex. It should be treated as kidnapping.

Legalizing of all sex crimes would fix sex crimes in a more natural way. For example a girl wouldn't go to a guy's house since she can't argue that she was kidnapped to go there and it is implicitly assumed she wanted sex if she was going to be there.

Also with birth control it means that sex doesn't even have consequences.

Sex offenses being a crime are more harmful than good.

This is based on the famous 'how to stop rape' proposal by rooshv


For the sake of clarity here is the link quote. It effectively explains why it is important for all sexual offenses to be legalized.
People who voted for Prostitution should be a crime and Rape should be a crime are ITcucks.
 

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