Discussion Where do we draw the line between an incel and a volcel?

[GhostedPhantom]

Obviously, escortcels aren't volcels.

What about ones who refuse to go on dates and potentially betabux because they're sure that they'll only get scammed? I'd call betabuxxing """ascension""" at best.

I think you're a volcel only if you can have a relationship of this kind:

• You have sex regularly; she doesn't have mysterious "headaches" which are caused by Chad blowing her brains out on the side
• You give her help and resources only roughly as much as she does the same in return
• You talk to her only about things you're genuinely interested in
• You don't have to act as her emotional tampon
• You've been together for at least, let's say, a month
• You've made it clear you aren't interested in cohabitation, marrying or having children; otherwise, she may be doing all this only to scam you later, not because she's interested in you
• She isn't ashamed to at least hold your hand in public (some of us would like public displays of affection to be banned, but at least they're a good way to determine if your relationship is fake if you're in one)

That's a lot of requirements and it surely renders at least half of all men incels, but anything less is just having an escort with extra steps and a potentially much higher price.

I don't think it's a problem if a lot of men are considered incels. Almost all of them still either mog us into oblivion (and as a result humblebrag, against which there is a rule) or are bluepilled cucks, so they aren't allowed into this forum anyway.

 

[Angry_runt]

I think the only definite line that can be drawn is between guys who are trying and guys who are not trying.
If there's some reliable way to determine your looksmatch, then I'd say it's fine if you don't want sex with foids who are more than two points below you.

 

[AbsolutelyBrutal]

It's very difficult to draw a line between incel and volcel due to cultural differences and outright physical requirements.. Some users just wouldn't fuck a land whale because they are legit repulsed and couldn't get their dicks up, whilst other users would definitely fuck a land whale. On a more extreme case, some users would never fuck an elephant woman but others still would.

Most users would agree that rejecting a woman who clearly and undoubtly wants to fuck you and isn't downright disgusting is volcel, then it gets harder to draw the line the uglier the woman in question is.

Not an easy topic to answer.

 

[NoNutNovemberFailed]

no such thing as volcel because if youre on here its over anyways, anyone who claims they slay is larping no normie/chad would rot here

 

[GhostedPhantom]

I think the only definite line that can be drawn is between guys who are trying and guys who are not trying

Any man would try to escape this hell if given some hope that it's possible. If someone isn't trying, then either they falsely think their attractiveness is too low, or they're truly an incel. I hope the former kind of guys manage to ascend, but most of us are probably in the latter category.

If there's some reliable way to determine your looksmatch, then I'd say it's fine if you don't want sex with foids who are more than two points below you.

The only option for everyone other than Chadlite is to date foids at least two points below them. A subhuman foid has even less of a reason to date her looksmatch because he serves as a reminder of her own lack of attractiveness. That would mean for a 3/10 man, the only option is a disabled ugly burn victim with progeria.

It's very difficult to draw a line between incel and volcel due to cultural differences and outright physical requirements.. Some users just wouldn't fuck a land whale because they are legit repulsed and couldn't get their dicks up, whilst other users would definitely fuck a land whale. On a more extreme case, some users would never fuck an elephant woman but others still would.

Most users would agree that rejecting a woman who clearly and undoubtly wants to fuck you and isn't downright disgusting is volcel, then it gets harder to draw the line the uglier the woman in question is.

Not an easy topic to answer.

Yeah, it varies from person to person where a relationship is even feasible.

Now it dawned on me that the opposite of an incel isn't volcel. The real topic should have been "the line between an incel and a non-incel". Volcels are a probably only very small fraction of the non-incel men.

no normie/chad would rot here

Pretty much. If someone actually had a life - even a shitty one by normie standards - they'd rather live it than spend all day here.