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Discussion When you found out that “It's over”?

joaosembraco12

joaosembraco12

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It's admirable to see the persistence of some people. On reddit, I often see proto-incels complaining, crying and whining, and always the same answers: “focus on your development”, “be happy on your own”, “I have a hobby that I enjoy” and so on. However, I fell into this trap when I was a bluepill protoincel in my teens, using reddit to vent. 18 years old and I had never kissed and people commented “that's normal”, “be patient” and I believed them. It's funny that all my friends and classmates were kissing, dating, having sex and I was doing nothing, but okay, I believed, I immersed myself in my hobbies and thanks to that I managed to graduate from high school without too many problems. But time went by and nothing, I kept going, I invested in myself, in my studies, in the gym, I hit on women and nothing. Anyway, it was only last year when I discovered reality, at the age of 24. What about you? How did it go? When did you discover that there was no way out? I have a theory, based on stories I read and empirical observations: if you leave high school without having kissed, that's it, there's no going back, you can even not have had sex, but you have to have at least had kissed. I think that's the limit, if you haven't kissed in high school, there's no going back, it's over.
 
The anger built quickly when the longing soured like milk and turned into desperation. Then I felt bitter and angry but not quite yet fully blackpilled, it was a weird half-blackpilled state I was in about 2 months before joining the forum. Then I became fully blackpilled on my own, not knowing what it was even called. All I knew was looks were most important. Then I found .is I browsed for about a couple days here then I joined. I was 21 and still am till the 12th of August.
 
Found out it's over at 16.

I'm 20 now nothings changed.
 
On the first day of kindergarten a foid walked up to me and called me ugly.
 
It's admirable to see the persistence of some people. On reddit, I often see proto-incels complaining, crying and whining, and always the same answers: “focus on your development”, “be happy on your own”, “I have a hobby that I enjoy” and so on. However, I fell into this trap when I was a bluepill protoincel in my teens, using reddit to vent. 18 years old and I had never kissed and people commented “that's normal”, “be patient” and I believed them. It's funny that all my friends and classmates were kissing, dating, having sex and I was doing nothing, but okay, I believed, I immersed myself in my hobbies and thanks to that I managed to graduate from high school without too many problems. But time went by and nothing, I kept going, I invested in myself, in my studies, in the gym, I hit on women and nothing. Anyway, it was only last year when I discovered reality, at the age of 24. What about you? How did it go? When did you discover that there was no way out? I have a theory, based on stories I read and empirical observations: if you leave high school without having kissed, that's it, there's no going back, you can even not have had sex, but you have to have at least had kissed. I think that's the limit, if you haven't kissed in high school, there's no going back, it's over.
When I changed into my fourth state and still got rejected
 
realizing I'm gonna be manlet and won't grow anymore
 
I posted on reddit amIUgly, in which they always tell ugly guys that they're not actually ugly and need to work on their personality, haircut, style etc. They told me I was ugly. One foid said she got scared after opening up the pic of my face. That's when I became blackpilled I would say, although it was also gradual, it took a while to accept.
 
I plan to write about it more in-depth for a story post, but it really took me being engaged and ending that relationship for me to truly see how over it was. It was as if that because I was no longer in that relationship, with the prospect of getting married, that I was no longer a good person. My own mother even said to my now ex, "I'm sorry for my horrible son". All because I was unhappy and decided I did not want a relationship where I was constantly disrespected.

Through that whole ordeal what I learned was no one gives a shit about the male. No one cared how chronically unhappy I was in a bad relationship. Every single part of my existence, value and goodness was apparently placed in my ability to maintain and progress that relationship. When it all ended it very much felt my family and friends stopped respecting me.

I come from a first generation immigrant family. My sister and I were the first in the family to complete University, and I went on to get a Master's degree in my field. I bought my first property in 20s, make very good money, and have several industry achievements to my name. But, my whole being is measured against my ability to keep a foid happy regardless of myself.
 
11 years old

i changed schools and I was bullied the first 3 days of school in a row
 
I started reading r/foreveralone at 15-16 (im 24 now) i remember back then looking at people my age thinking no way i was gonne end up being mid 20s with no gf and still a virgin right? No way that could happen to me. I started self improving as hard as i could from 18 to 21 (mostly softmaxxing) but despite putting in effort and asking girls out i still ended up here. I dont really understand (well i do lol im ugly as fuck) i got accutane to try and fix my acne, got braces, gym, good hygiene haircuts good clothes etc but none of it matters when your ugly as fuck.
 
I started reading r/foreveralone at 15-16 (im 24 now) i remember back then looking at people my age thinking no way i was gonne end up being mid 20s with no gf and still a virgin right? No way that could happen to me. I started self improving as hard as i could from 18 to 21 (mostly softmaxxing) but despite putting in effort and asking girls out i still ended up here. I dont really understand (well i do lol im ugly as fuck) i got accutane to try and fix my acne, got braces, gym, good hygiene haircuts good clothes etc but none of it matters when your ugly as fuck.
I went from a 3 to maybe a 4 on good days.
 

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