Probably around a decade ago, when it became clear that they hated me. I didn't hate them at first, I just reciprocated it. There comes a point after which when a group of people are mean to you, you stop liking them. That's what inceltear doesn't understand. I didn't start to hate foids because they ignored me and didn't want to have sex with me, I started to hate them because they have been nothing but mean and abusive towards me my entire life. But, once again, inceltear won't touch this and they will never acknowledge that this is the case with majority of incels.