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Discussion When did the West really start to become decadent?

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  • Decline of the HRE (late 1300s)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Protestant Reformation (1517)

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • French Revolution (1789)

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • End of WW1 (1918)

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • End of WW2 (1945)

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Counterculture/Social Revolution (late 1960s)

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Total voters
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I’ve been able to narrow it down to the events listed
 
end of WW1. exponentially more decadent around the 1960s
 
Protestantism is when all the cucked shit started. Anglos have always liked the jews and kike concepts like divorce.

Also their theology has been the base of all postmodern shit like feminism and trannies
 
You need to go back even further to the beginning of Christianity @Orzmund
 
when Eve ate the apple :reeeeee:
 
The first world war marked the beginning of the Wests decline, but the rot really set in during the 1960s.
 
Socialism and feminism didn't start in WW1, both started quite before. It's interesting how all these movements casually developed mostly in Germany and England (protestantism) and France (pseudocatholic) and how they spread all across the globe because of the power this countries had (remember: nobody would give a flying fuck about untalented Shakespeare if it wasn't because he spoke the language of the English Empire)

I'm not gonna elaborate further because this topic is worth a long thread but Europe was already going very kike long before WW1
 
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Socialism and feminism didn't start in WW1, both started quite before. It's interesting how all these movements casually developed mostly in Germany and England (protestantism) and France (pseudocatholic) and how they spread all across the globe because of the power this countries had.

I'm not gonna elaborate further because this topic is worth a long thread but Europe was already going very kike long before WW1
I mean it's true that it started earlier, but actual protestantism wasn't the cause of it. Protestants are actually right.

Liberalism was the problem, not protestantism.
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I mean it's true that it started earlier, but actual protestantism wasn't the cause of it. Protestants are actually right.

Liberalism was the problem, not protestantism.
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It was the puritan anglos who started zionism, not the jews.

Liberalism is another consequence of protestantism, it didn't have much influence in catholic/orthodox countries until later unlike in protestant countries because of how protestantism dismantled the Ancien Régime
 
Because their policies were influences by them. Rothschilds for example
Jews didn't have much power in England when zionism started getting popular between puritans, its just that these Bible obsessed anglos had to take the part where Israel belongs to the Jews literally

Even Hitler tried to create a jewish state in Palestine in the 30s, Jews never gained much power in catholic/orthodox countries until kike movements like liberal nationalism (not the same thing as patriotism) and socialism sparkled
 
Jews didn't have much power in England when zionism started getting popular between puritans, its just that these Bible obsessed anglos had to take the part where Israel belongs to the Jews literally

Even Hitler tried to create a jewish state in Palestine in the 30s, Jews never gained much power in catholic/orthodox countries until kike movements like liberal nationalism (not the same thing as patriotism) and socialism sparkled
Hitler didn't tried to create a jewish state, he just wanted to deport all the jews to palestine because he didn't know where to deport them to. Nobody wanted them, and later on the nazis became more frustrated (they thought about deporting them to madagascar).
 
Nobody wanted them, and later on the nazis became more frustrated (they thought about deporting them to madagascar).
109 countries, never their fault
Bruce lee laugh 2
 
Protestantism created the enviroment for the enlightment, liberalism and the french revolution.
Yes, and I'm not a big fan of the enlighment or the revolution either. That will be in my long thread dedicated to this topic if I ever make it
 
Im not a Tradcuck but the true decline of Traditionalism and Christianity in europe began with the protestant reformation and the enlightment.

Basically Secularism, Atheism and Liberalism became more and more popular every century after the reformation whilst before the Reformation Everyone was way more religous.
 
Hitler didn't tried to create a jewish state, he just wanted to deport all the jews to palestine because he didn't know where to deport them to. Nobody wanted them, and later on the nazis became more frustrated (they thought about deporting them to madagascar).
It would've ended up as a jewish state anyways, arab palestinians would've suddenly become a minority and US presidents like Franklin Roosvelt or Truman are an example of Bible obsessed protestants who read the Bible everyday
 
It would've ended up as a jewish state anyways, arab palestinians would've suddenly became a minority and US presidents like Franklin Roosvelt or Truman are an example of Bible obsessed protestants who read the Bible everyday
Roosevelt was controlled by kikes and ZOG started to have full control after ww2
 
Still a protestant faggot, like most US presidents
Protestant doesn't mean you have to be liberal or pro israel. There are more than enough protestants that are neither.

In the end they restored the faith while catholics are heretics
 
Post-WW1. Its around this time that Western urbanization rates rapidly increase to 33%-66% of the population. Why is this important? Urban environments breed degenerate lifestyles that embrace hypercapitalism, or the prioritization of the economy at the expense of traditional culture and values. Atheism, pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, casual relationships, single motherhood, sub-replacement fertility, big government, etc. are all products of urbanization.

While the 1960s counterculture is imporant, I see it as the final nail in the coffin. Degenerate urban lifestyles HAD to have been lived and normalized by previous generations to make the counterculture possible. Going further back to the Enlightenment and Protestant Reformation is possible, but these had far less of a degenerating impact than urbanization. Even in a semi-secular capitalist states like the Dutch Republic would most people hold beliefs that modernites view as antiquated and immoral.

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Urbanisation rate in Sweden percent 1800 2010 see online version for colours

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Urban and rural populations in the United States US Census Bureau 1790 to 2010 OWID
 
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After WW1, degeneracy and decay became widespread.
 
Protestant doesn't mean you have to be liberal or pro israel. There are more than enough protestants that are neither.

In the end they restored the faith while catholics are heretics
Protestanrs are heretics too they did not restore anything as christianity never ceased to exist in eastern europe.
 
Protestanrs are heretics too they did not restore anything as christianity never ceased to exist in eastern europe.
Orthodox are just as wrong as catholics
 
the moment that the shunning and shaming of decadence stops, thats when there will be hell to pay sooner or later if they don't turn around.

as history has taught us and that goes for any society/civilization.

why do you think all cultures suppressed that shit lol.

yea science and industrialization makes it so that you don't have to be so conservative but that doesn't mean we should become full on degenerate hedonists. Which is what is happening on a massive scale right now around the world.

sustainable renewable energy is pure bs. oil, coal, and nuclear energy is finite.

the last world war will literally be the culling of humans to see which nation can get the last remaining drops of oil so that they can watch the rest of the world starve off to death.

the world hasn't seen shit yet and we are literally headed to the apocalypse basically. we got 8 billion people and are growing. shits gonna get very real one day. It might be 500 years from now, 800, 1000-2000+ years from now who knows.
 
The decadence started with the spread of Christianity which was an early form of marxism. The late 1960s is when cultural marxism took a complete hold of the West.
 
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Protestantism is when all the cucked shit started. Anglos have always liked the jews and kike concepts like divorce.

Also their theology has been the base of all postmodern shit like feminism and trannies

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