What's the real reason women dislike nice men?

[DryDick]

Everyone makes nice men out to be guys who are "fake nice" but the majority of nice men prob don't fall into this category. It's just the bullshit narrative society uses to pin the blame on men and not hold women responsible for not choosing nice men.

I'm talking about men who are genuinely nice and empathetic. I'm guessing it turns women off because it's a feminine characteristic. Just like we men don't like assertive or aggressive women, they don't like men who are too kind. It seems like they could be taken advantage of by others and they're not aggressive enough to get through this cruel world.

 

[UnwantedVirgin]

Nice guys finish last and don't hoard as many resources.

 

[Deinogalerix]

Just like we men don't like assertive or aggressive women, they don't like men who are too kind. It seems like they could be taken advantage of by others and they're not aggressive enough to get through this cruel world.

Yeah that's pretty much it. You know how females always say that they want a man who is "confident"? That's basically code for "aggressive asshole".

 

[NoMoreHope]

Nice guys dont make their pussies wet

 

[298r651]

Because being nice -> being weak

Observe nature and you will see it is a cruel and merciless world we live in. Kindness as a trait is not an attractive trait for a man to have. I dont think being nice will make you disliked, but it wont make u very popular with ladies either.

Of course theres a bit more complexity to things. Obviously cooperation at some point is an important trait as well, since humans are social creatures. If you want a better understanding youd have to understand the dual mating strategy. Redpill types call it alpha fux beta bucks. In academic settings I think they called it "cad and dad", call it whatever you want the phenomenon itself is quite well documented.

 

[Lost one]

Nice man are seen as weak man with a weak iman in their hearts.

 

[DryDick]

Yeah that's pretty much it. You know how females always say that they want a man who is "confident"? That's basically code for "aggressive asshole".

I don't think most women like aggressive assholes. They like men who have a balance of masculine and feminine traits. Most men veer toward one side of the spectrum, so they end up choosing the asshole over the nice guy. But a man who is strong physically and mentally and can show kindness is the ideal but very rare. This archetype is embodied by characters like Hector from the movie Troy.

 

[Indari]

simp presents don’t make her wet like chads alpha fist colliding with her face does

 

[Clown]

Because nice guys are weak and weakness gets punished in this world, unlike foids, they get worshipped for whatever they do, cucks will even praise their shit and piss

 

[Ramcel]

It comes down to how a civilization flourishes theoretically and in practice. Generally, in order to achieve massive dominance over other countries, your country has to force them to pay money or to give up natural resources. This requires you to outcompete them or use strongarmed methods to colonize their industries through investment and military conquest. Most nice men don't seem to be capable of leading a country by colonizing and destroying other tribes.

 

[Lolimancer]

I think you are guys are overthinking this, nobody dislikes nice chad

 

[DryDick]

It comes down to how a civilization flourishes theoretically and in practice. Generally, in order to achieve massive dominance over other countries, your country has to force them to pay money or to give up natural resources. This requires you to outcompete them or use strongarmed methods to colonize their industries through investment and military conquest. Most nice men don't seem to be capable of leading a country by colonizing and destroying other tribes.

That's prob why societies throughout history have always shamed faggots. You can't defend your country or take over others if you are a feminine man who likes to get fucked like a woman. Society will shame you into being strong. The shame for hot lesbians is almost non-existent, however. haha.

 

[Loner94]

Unfortunately it's associated with weakness

 

[DespressedCurryCel1]

weakness evolutionarily only the strong genetically gifted alpha hunters got the top foids while we get nothing

 

[runforrest]

I don't think most women like aggressive assholes. They like men who have a balance of masculine and feminine traits. Most men veer toward one side of the spectrum, so they end up choosing the asshole over the nice guy. But a man who is strong physically and mentally and can show kindness is the ideal but very rare. This archetype is embodied by characters like Hector from the movie Troy.

Nailed it

 

[starcrapoo]

Its like how men dislike a really bitchy stuckup, assertive woman. Most men will still fuck these kind of women but for long term relationships, most men will not stay.

 

[Nordicel94]

The ideal male is The Good from "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly". The Hero-archetype is the apex of masculinity and the Hero is nice BUT, the hero sacrifices himself for others. Most nice guys are push-overs. The key ingredient is BRAVERY. A nice guy who isn't brave is unattractive.

 

[Depressed_manletcel]

I think you are guys are overthinking this, nobody dislikes nice chad

 

[SlayerSlayer]

Everyone makes nice men out to be guys who are "fake nice" but the majority of nice men prob don't fall into this category. It's just the bullshit narrative society uses to pin the blame on men and not hold women responsible for not choosing nice men.

I'm talking about men who are genuinely nice and empathetic. I'm guessing it turns women off because it's a feminine characteristic. Just like we men don't like assertive or aggressive women, they don't like men who are too kind. It seems like they could be taken advantage of by others and they're not aggressive enough to get through this cruel world.

its because they are just fucking DORKS. Women want an ASSHOLE that can DOMINATE EVERYONE like it's WWE-- but not in an overcompensating way, but rather in an effortless sly way

 

[SlayerSlayer]

The ideal male is The Good from "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly". The Hero-archetype is the apex of masculinity and the Hero is nice BUT, the hero sacrifices himself for others. Most nice guys are push-overs. The key ingredient is BRAVERY. A nice guy who isn't brave is unattractive.

its not about bravery,-- its about being silm tall and white

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Nice = low status. If a guy isn't nice then her hamster wheel starts spinning and one of the conclusions why a guy wouldn't be nice to women, is because he gets so much pussy he doesn't care. So its kind of like preselection. If there's something women hate about men its when men are neurotic and nice towards them, because it signals inexperience with women and it dries their pussy fast

 

[Leonardo Part V]

Because they were created by Satan.

 

[wgm24]

I think you are guys are overthinking this, nobody dislikes nice chad

Nice Chad gets fucked over by darktriad gigachad every time

 

[wgm24]

Nice = low status. If a guy isn't nice then her hamster wheel starts spinning and one of the conclusions why a guy wouldn't be nice to women, is because he gets so much pussy he doesn't care. So its kind of like preselection. If there's something women hate about men its when men are neurotic and nice towards them, because it signals inexperience with women and it dries their pussy fast

 

[andinocel]

OP I think you answered your own question, tbh.

Despite all the technological advances, humans still have hunter-gatherer brains, and in Paleolithic times, nice guys would get slain by a rival clan he trusted or mauled by an animal he felt too sorry to kill.

Nice = low status.

This too. Acting like a jerk sends the signal that you don't care because you don't need anyone, and when foids see this, they think "he has resources to fall back on"

 

[DryDick]

Nice = low status. If a guy isn't nice then her hamster wheel starts spinning and one of the conclusions why a guy wouldn't be nice to women, is because he gets so much pussy he doesn't care. So its kind of like preselection. If there's something women hate about men its when men are neurotic and nice towards them, because it signals inexperience with women and it dries their pussy fast

If an ugly guy is mean to women she's not going to be curious about him, she's going to despise him. Being an asshole only works when you're around her looks level.

 

[DryDick]

This too. Acting like a jerk sends the signal that you don't care because you don't need anyone, and when foids see this, they think "he has resources to fall back on"

It could also mean you're an outcast from the tribe who has nothing to lose.

 

[Saint Cho]

Women are attracted to strength. A stereotypical "nice" guy can be attractive if he's also tall, strong, & dominant when the situation calls for it.

 

[felizhombre]

It could also mean you're an outcast from the tribe who has nothing to lose.

i lost many friends with that stupid attitude

 

[felizhombre]

Women are attracted to strength.

if he gets beat down by a 5'3 gymcel the girls is no way getting with the gymcel, she will just find another tall nice guy

 

[Saint Cho]

if he gets beat down by a 5'3 gymcel the girls is no way getting with the gymcel, she will just find another tall nice guy

Well being tall is the most relevant physical indicator of strength that can be passed down to descendants. That's why women find it attractive.

The reason why a 5'3 gymcel is unattractive is because his hard work in the gym cannot be passed down to his children. His strength is basically locked to his character while a tallfaggots strength gets a new-game+ mode.

 

[ResidentHell]

Women are attracted to strength. A stereotypical "nice" guy can be attractive if he's also tall, strong, & dominant when the situation calls for it.

Correct, "niceness" doesnt necessarily connote weakness or low status. You can find "merciful but potentially deadly" males who exercise self-control and humility when dealing with people who they could easily hurt or kill

However there are two reasons for females to dislike "niceness" in males:

1) Evolutionary female survival mechanism - As the female is the weaker sex, she may need protection from material threats in the animal world in order to fulfil her biological imperative (especially when in the maternal role). In result she may gravitate towards a male with dark-triad personality or history of violence, on the basis this kind of male is better suited to protect her (and her potential offspring), than a male who's passive and has no known history of violence

2) The female body's sexual responsiveness to aggressive or violent treatment - Based on what stats have implied, female bodies are more sexually responsive to aggressive, forceful behavior. The exact reason for this condition in female nature is unclear, but it inevitably motivates them to exhibit sadistic and masochistic traits in their behavior

Basically the female body is more likely to be sexually triggered by aggressive / forced treatment. Females who wish to experience sexual pleasure will have this in mind when in search for potential partners. A male who's aggressive / forceful is more likely to trigger a sexual response from the body of the female, than a male who's passive / timid about how they treat women

 

[Saint Cho]

Correct, "niceness" doesnt necessarily connote weakness or low status. You can find "merciful but potentially deadly" males who exercise self-control and humility when dealing with people who they could easily hurt or kill

However there are two reasons for females to dislike "niceness" in males:

1) Evolutionary female survival mechanism - As the female is the weaker sex, she may need protection in order to fulfil her biological imperative (especially when in the maternal role). In effect she may gravitate towards males with dark-triad personality or a history of violent behavior, on the basis this kind of male is better suited to protect them (and their children), than a male who's passive and has no known history of violence

2) The female body's sexual responsiveness to aggressive or violent treatment - Based on what stats have implied, female bodies are more sexually responsive to aggressive, forceful behavior. Its uncertain as to exactly why this is, but it inevitably drives them towards sadistic and masochistic behavior

Basically the female body is more likely to be sexually triggered by aggressive / forced treatment. So females who wish to experience sexual pleasure will have this in mind when in search for potential partners

True. Basically the first filter is looks & strength. If a male passes both filters then be can probably get laid, but she'd prefer if he was dark-triad on top of that.

dark triad chad > kind chad > dark triad manlet > kind manlet

 

[Feminism Sucks!]

Either way, you lose

Be nice to SLUTS: "oh, he's a pathetic nice guy, not a real man, I won't sleep with him"

Be mean to SLUTS: "oh, he's an asshole, I won't sleep with him"

If Dr. Verwoerd was still here, he'd put those sluts back in their place

 

[Fallenleaves]

Because they were created by Satan.

They are Satan

 

[UnknownR]

Because nice guys are weak and weakness gets punished in this world, unlike foids, they get worshipped for whatever they do, cucks will even praise their shit and piss

 

[Jake Roberts]

I wrote out this whole long rant about this topic but honestly it just boils down to what some of the other guys said in this thread.

Of course looks are above all, but dark triad traits are also very important. Probably around the same importance as things like status, power, wealth, etc. There's so much damn evidence for dark triad trait importance that even some of the fucking redpillers online admit this is true. And that is that dark triad GIGAMOGS any other personality traits, by a long shot.

 

[Broly]

Because women are evil.

 

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

It's a false narrative, because someone can act nice just to get in her panties, "nice" is not the same as good good guy. On the other side, women prefer dark triad men, so what the hell do they expect? You chose him, so bad boy will be bad.

 

[decembrist_kirillov]

Because they dont rape them

 

[Nigerlozi]

Nice guys dont make their pussies wet

 

[NorthernWind]

That's prob why societies throughout history have always shamed faggots. You can't defend your country or take over others if you are a feminine man who likes to get fucked like a woman. Society will shame you into being strong. The shame for hot lesbians is almost non-existent, however. haha.

Some fags can be masculine and in the military.
But, overall, too nice and weak men with feminine traits are despised and picked on by everyone. Doesn't matter if they're fags or straight.
But I don't understand why soyciety shames men for being weak.
Like, it's a double-edged sword. He can turn his aggression towards bullies and higher status men, not necessarily towards the enemy state.

 

[Puppeter]

You said it , its a foid trait caring about others thats why we get fucked in any way foids love abuse

 

[NorthernWind]

Women are attracted to strength. A stereotypical "nice" guy can be attractive if he's also tall, strong, & dominant when the situation calls for it.

 

[Izayacel]

Because they were created by Satan.

 

[NorthernWind]

You said it , its a foid trait caring about others thats why we get fucked in any way foids love abuse

What's why I believe that parents or mentors/teachers who raise boys to be 'nice' and non-combative are committing a crime. Men aren't supposed to be too empathetic and caring. Its feminine trait.
It's Systers of mercy, not Brothers of mercy.

 

[agepillisbrutal]

Just like we men don't like assertive or aggressive women

DNR this thread.

Men like mean and dominant women when they're hot, which is why findom exists.

It's about looks.

 

[ADHD_cel]

Nice man are seen as weak man with a weak iman in their hearts.

 

[agepillisbrutal]

What's why I believe that parents or mentors/teachers who raise boys to be 'nice' and non-combative are committing a crime. Men aren't supposed to be too empathetic and caring. Its feminine trait.
It's Systers of mercy, not Brothers of mercy.

So you're saying women are morally, emotionally, and empathetically superior?

 

[Nemesis]

Because they are ugly