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Experiment What's the best way to deal with inceldom?

37YearOldVirgin

37YearOldVirgin

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Which is best and why?

I'm personally leaning toward ascend right now, but I'm also probably half volcel half truecel at this point, and only recently resolved to lifemax and escape. Maybe I'll crash and burn hard and end up somewhere else on the spectrum eventually.
 
You're a 37 year old volcel, huh? How oh how did you manage to turn down sex all these years? :feelsohh:
 
I LDARed seven years. Can't recommend.

I'd say try to ascend and if not succesful, go MCTOW.

I came to the conclusion that there is no point in ER and while I am sympathetic towards roping most incels can't make an educated choice or are to depressed to organize working help. Would be wasted lifes.

If truecels don't like MGTOW, they should try to fight for their rights like LGBTQ did (we all should honestly).

If life is to painful and there is 100% no way out, yeah rope. Not before your mid thirties though.
 
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You can't. The longer your body goes without sex, the more it ratches up the hormones. You can cope for a little while, but you will eventually become numb to whatever cope you're using as your body demands sex harder and harder.

There is no escape. Most can't even rope because their body knows it would stop them from having a chance at reproduction
 
ascend obviously. how the fuck is this even a question?
 
Good copes, including escorts.

Also never giving up on finding good partner 1 day.
 
ascend obviously. how the fuck is this even a question?
WTF is that even an option? If ascending were truely possible there would be no blackpill or incels. Only volcels.
 
ascend obviously. how the fuck is this even a question?
You think so right, but it's weird.

I honestly think theres a point (around 28 maybe) where you are so fucked by life of incel even if you ascend you cannot enjoy properly. Like even it could make it worse.
 
You're a 37 year old volcel, huh? How oh how did you manage to turn down sex all these years? :feelsohh:

No, I got turned down/ ignored for 25 years, but I attribute that mostly to my short height, small frame, and bad looks, and partially to the fact that I've mostly put the blame off of myself all that time and not tried to get bigger or improve my confidence and pickup skills. Basically I've been lazy and scared, but this year on my birthday I finally decided that I need to fucking take matters into my own hands and do whatever it takes to be successful. That's what I mean by volcel.
 
You think so right, but it's weird.

I honestly think theres a point (around 28 maybe) where you are so fucked by life of incel even if you ascend you cannot enjoy properly. Like even it could make it worse.

i suppose. in that case cope is the way to go. i wouldnt trade vidya for ascension anyway.
 
WTF is that even an option? If ascending were truely possible there would be no blackpill or incels. Only volcels.
That's what I think too. But I do think there are a lot of truecels who just need to swallow the black pill, but also a lot of volcels who 'could' ascend if they actially tried, and use the black pill as a crutch to shift the responsibility of their celibacy off of themselves. I was/ am one of those ppl (even though I didn't know it), but want to change that now.
 
No, I got turned down/ ignored for 25 years, but I attribute that mostly to my short height, small frame, and bad looks, and partially to the fact that I've mostly put the blame off of myself all that time and not tried to get bigger or improve my confidence and pickup skills. Basically I've been lazy and scared, but this year on my birthday I finally decided that I need to fucking take matters into my own hands and do whatever it takes to be successful. That's what I mean by volcel.
Dude, if you are an ugly manlet, it isn't your fault you have never been desired.
 
That's what I think too. But I do think there are a lot of truecels who just need to swallow the black pill, but also a lot of volcels who 'could' ascend if they actially tried, and use the black pill as a crutch to shift the responsibility of their celibacy off of themselves. I was/ am one of those ppl (even though I didn't know it), but want to change that now.
And what do you think you can do differently to get any worthwhile female attention?
 
And what do you think you can do differently to get any worthwhile female attention?

Well I'm planning to try bodybuilding and Brazilian jujitsu (started already). I'm 100 lbs now and ectomorph, so really hard to build muscle, but if I eat a lot or take a gainer and really lift like 4-5 days a week, I should be able to get much more built. And bjj still let's you be killer tough at my size. Wont fix my height but I'm 5'5-5'6, so not totally disqualified if get more built.

I also want to improve my personal style. I've always worked in a kitchen at a sports bar and just worn over sized jerseys and baseball caps and sneakers. Pretty standard in my city and not a good look on a small frame. I've been really thinking about it though and the edgy/ biker look could work for me if I get a little more built. Grow out a beard and sculpt it to have a strong jawline that'll completely mask my weak chin and sqint a bit for that hunter look. Match my hair to the look, maybe get a big tattoo, and wear more fitted/ ripped jeans and t's and a leather jacket. Totally different me.
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(Basically this look)

Lastly, ive always been 'nice guy' week/ soft/ timid and lacking confidence when talking to girls. I put them on a pedestal and went in assuming rejection, which combined with my size is the most beta weak look ever. It only got worse as I got older and then I stopped trying altogether.

So I've been reading about the qualities and attitudes that attract and turn women on and also the ones that turn them off or that they find repulsive. I'm going to start approaching now (even though I haven't looksmaxed or stylemaxed yet) and practice using some of this stuff to reduce my anxiety and get comfortable talking to girls, and maybe even being flirtatious or sexual in a non-creepy or threatening way.

Then once I've looksmaxed I'll be ready to go in for real. That's my plan anyway. I estimate it'll take 3-6 months near term, and a year or two to 'really' transform myself. But I'm determined (now anyway).
Dude, if you are an ugly manlet, it isn't your fault you have never been desired.

But are: a) 'Not being instantly desired while putting in little to no effort and in spite of your character flaws.', and b) 'Never having a hope of being desired due to reasons that are entirely out of your control.' The same thing?

As far as I can tell, being Incel literally means it's over. You were dead in the water from the very beginning due to reasons that were outside of your control, and what's more.. there's nothing you can ever to do change it.

So by definition, if there's anything at all you 'could' do that could increases your chances at getting a girl and you refuse to do it... you are a Volcel. Because you could have done it and 'voluntarily' chose not to. Otherwise all the normies who don't get pussy thrown at them, and yet refuse to try, would be Incels too. And tbh.. based on the comments I'm reading so far, that's all that 90% of this forum is.
 
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You sound bluepilled af, what are you even doing here?

And you better do more research before hitting the gym, I can't imagine anyone with any real knowledge will tell you lifting 5 days a week is a good idea.
 
>I'm going to get fit! That'll get me girls!
You have no life experience. You have no idea what you'd do when you get with a girl and you'd have no idea how relationships work. You'd be like a 15 year old but at 30. No woman wants that. That's a hard blackpill to swallow but it's true.
 
You sound bluepilled af, what are you even doing here?

And you better do more research before hitting the gym, I can't imagine anyone with any real knowledge will tell you lifting 5 days a week is a good idea.

In what way do I sound Blue pilled? (Serious) I actually want to know. I'm new here, and so maybe haven't bought into the ideology yet.
Also, Is this a community, or a religion? Do you want a diversity of thought in the conversation? Or do you want to live in a self-affirming echo chamber where everyone conforms to the same dogma? **Incidentally, I've yet to see a single rebuttal to my point about everyone being volcels unless they can say they've 'really' tried everything to escape inceldom. So far nobody's even engaged with the idea other than to call me bluepilled or some other derogatory thing.

To your second point, from what I've read on Bodybuilding.com there are several optimal workout splits for bodybuilding. 3 days a week, 4 days, 5 days and even 6. It just depends how you focus on muscle groups on which day. Look it up?
 
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Killing yourself
 
>I'm going to get fit! That'll get me girls!
You have no life experience. You have no idea what you'd do when you get with a girl and you'd have no idea how relationships work. You'd be like a 15 year old but at 30. No woman wants that. That's a hard blackpill to swallow but it's true.

Yeah, I've struggled with that one for years. I thought it was over for me at 30 and so I've given up for the last 6-7 years. But it's a miserable existence. All I do is work, drink, and feel lonely. I finally decided I'm not gonna go to the grave that way, and until I can honestly say I've done 'everything' I can, then it's not over. Besides, your right that 'most' femoids won't want that, but I'm sure there are some who would take the positive qualities in me and be willing to teach me the rest. After all, i do have 'lots' of life experience, just not with dating and sex.

Good copes, including escorts.

Also never giving up on finding good partner 1 day.

Good ideas
 
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