Discussion What % of men are actually incels?

[Choler]

I see many people in blackpill community saying how only chads have sex and every other man is an incel, this is obviously cope and pure autism, whenever i go on tiktok or other social media i see below average males with girlfriends, whenever i go outiside i also see a lot of sub5s with GFs, guys from .org also said they see sub5s with GFs in their countries, so it's not only in south america

But what percentage of men are actually incels?
Percentage of young men who are virgins

According to Data Psychology, 50.52% of men aged between 18 and 20 are virgins

According to Data Psychology, only 1.9% of men aged between 25 and 30 are virgins

2022–2023: Newsweek reported that 24% of men were sexless
The study, conducted by the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) among people of all sexualities, found that the proportion of male virgins in this age group rose from 4 percent in 2013-15 to 10 percent in 2022-23.

The proportion of women aged 22-34 who said they were virgins rose from 5 percent in 2013-15 to 7 percent in 2022-23.

2019: The Washington Post reported that 28% of men under 30 had not had sex in the last year

In 2023, a Business Insider survey found that more than 37% of Gen Zers (ages 18–26) had not had sex

I dont buy this shit at all, its just like when they say faggots are only 1% of population, but you see a fag every fucking day/week, or when they say 5'9 is average but everyone outside is taller than you
I think the actual % of virgins/incels is less than 2% of population, sex is a biological need, you have to be extremely fucked up to be sexless, i saw recessed manlet losers with GFs with my own eyes, you see a loser manlet sub5 in the streets and think he is an incel like you? WRONG, he most likely has a girlfriend and gets laid every week

What do you guys think? Tell me your thoughts and hopefully we can put an end to this topic

 

[manletcel1488]

Probably 20-30%
Remember a lot of men will lie and say they aren't virgins when they hit 25+ including me, imagine having to tell someone irl you've never had sex.
Plus a lot of non-incels are probably sexually frustrated too, a lot of normies that got lucky one or two times but aren't nearly as sexually active as they want to be.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

I'd say that maybe 5% are incels and a far smaller minority are blackpilled. But it’s not just about the extreme cases, it's the guys who aren't technically 'incels' but still get zero attention from women and struggle with the current sexual market. I bet if you include those, the percentage is closer to 30%—many of those being pathetic betabuxxers and cucks in one-sided ""relationships"".

 

[WeirdoDesperado]

I estimate that around 20% are incels, 60% are normies who have boring relationships, get cheated on and get divorced, but still have sex occassionally and the rest 20% are attractive men whose lives are full of adventures and experiences, then they get married to blonde stacy or stacylite, have children, enjoy high standards of living and live together to the end. Majority of boomers lived like chads nowadays and incels were quite rare.

 

[universallyabhorres]

I'd say that maybe 5% are incels and a far smaller minority are blackpilled. But it’s not just about the extreme cases, it's the guys who aren't technically 'incels' but still get zero attention from women and struggle with the current sexual market. I bet if you include those, the percentage is closer to 30%—many of those being pathetic betabuxxers and cucks in one-sided ""relationships"".

What do you consider as struggling? Is it getting laid by a landwhale once a year or a relationship where they have sex once a year and she cheats on him or is it getting laid once and being a virgin for the rest of your life?

 

[Choler]

Remember a lot of men will lie and say they aren't virgins when they hit 25+

How they deal with the sexual frustration? Incels are known for being extremely sad, depressed, and aggressive sometimes, i can't see 20% - 30% being like this.

Do you think some men can handle inceldom better than others to the point where they don't even consider themselves incels?

 

[Choler]

I'd say that maybe 5% are incels and a far smaller minority are blackpilled. But it’s not just about the extreme cases, it's the guys who aren't technically 'incels' but still get zero attention from women and struggle with the current sexual market. I bet if you include those, the percentage is closer to 30%—many of those being pathetic betabuxxers and cucks in one-sided ""relationships"".

Makes sense

 

[SilverBullet]

About 10-20% are incels. About 60-80% are normie betabuxxers. 10-20% are Chads. If you’re sub-8 it never began

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

What do you consider as struggling? Is it getting laid by a landwhale once a year or a relationship where they have sex once a year and she cheats on him or is it getting laid once and being a virgin for the rest of your life?

Struggling to form any kind of relationship with a woman where you’re receiving the same level of interest as her. Being a betabuxx, orbiter or a desperate simp for a woman is the biggest form of cuck behavior and it’s pathetic. Pretty much everything you listed are things I would consider as struggling.

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Probably 20-30%

That's a terrifying figure

 

[Choler]

That's a terrifying figure

Why? if this is true, its good for us incels, we are not alone

i dont believe it tho

 

[Cincel]

I don't know and tbh I don't wanna know.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

it's hard to say what the male numbers are, but they are definitely getting worse.
i'm not sure if "scoring" when you are late 20s is such a big win either, the best years of your life are over at that point lmao.

what we know is:
- men are getting more lonely
- women are getting gradually more insane and hooked on antidepressants
- STDs are generally getting worse, but especially for women

my conclusion: more sex is happening than ever before, but it's more degenerate and selective than ever, and the damaging kind that creates emotional fallout, all that lines up with a large number of male incels because what do you need betas for in a sexual landscape like this? they serve no purpose at all

the number of real untouchable incels may be just a couple percent, but the number of men who are coasting by and acting like tough guys because they went on one date in the past 5 years is massive and could be as high as 30% or more.
just look at how alleged "normies" act. some fat dude will be alone and will never talk about being alone or an incel, for like 5 years, then he'll suddenly come out with some big deal that just happened where he went on Hinge after losing weight, and got a few dates and he walks around like a rooster in the henhouse for a while. but he never actually got a girlfriend and he just goes silent for like another 5 years.
there, there's your cool normie male who is "not an incel".

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

one thing that protects men from inceldom is living in a very healthy micro-community that's isolated from the greater hellish world. like a small neighborhood where people actually talk to each other, go to church, do not use hookup apps, etc. but how many men actually have access to this anymore?

 

[Choler]

what we know is:
- men are getting more lonely
- women are getting gradually more insane and hooked on antidepressants

We are literally experiencing the mouse utopia, overpopulation and industrialization side effects are clearer than water

- STDs are generally getting worse, but especially for women

Never heard abt this, lifefuel if true

the number of real untouchable incels may be just a couple percent, but the number of men who are coasting by and acting like tough guys because they went on one date in the past 5 years is massive and could be as high as 30% or more.
just look at how alleged "normies" act. some fat dude will be alone and will never talk about being alone or an incel, for like 5 years, then he'll suddenly come out with some big deal that just happened where he went on Hinge after losing weight, and got a few dates and he walks around like a rooster in the henhouse for a while. but he never actually got a girlfriend and he just goes silent for like another 5 years.
there, there's your cool normie male who is "not an incel".

Makes a lot of sense, i think this might be the response

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

Nonchads are 99%+, so they're betabuxxers at best.

 

[V c z s q e]

Sex is done for non chads. So that's a lot of men.

 

[IncelFig]

Not many.

 

[IncelFig]

I'd say that maybe 5% are incels and a far smaller minority are blackpilled. But it’s not just about the extreme cases, it's the guys who aren't technically 'incels' but still get zero attention from women and struggle with the current sexual market. I bet if you include those, the percentage is closer to 30%—many of those being pathetic betabuxxers and cucks in one-sided ""relationships"".

I think only 1% of the human population is truly blackpilled.

 

[daydreamER]

I dont buy this shit at all, its just like when they say faggots are only 1% of population, but you see a fag every fucking day/week, or when they say 5'9 is average but everyone outside is taller than you
I think the actual % of virgins/incels is less than 2% of population, sex is a biological need, you have to be extremely fucked up to be sexless, i saw recessed manlet losers with GFs with my own eyes, you see a loser manlet sub5 in the streets and think he is an incel like you? WRONG, he most likely has a girlfriend and gets laid every week

What do you guys think? Tell me your thoughts and hopefully we can put an end to this topic

1 percent of the population isn't "only". It means one out of a hundred people. When you think of it that way, it's easy to imagine noticing a fag every day out of the hundreds of people you see. I believe incels are very rare, especially above university age, but they are slowly getting more common. If you want to expand the incel definition to people who have had something before but now don't, there are probably many more.

 

[Kanye's Cousin]

I estimate that around 20% are incels, 60% are normies who have boring relationships, get cheated on and get divorced, but still have sex occassionally and the rest 20% are attractive men whose lives are full of adventures and experiences, then they get married to blonde stacy or stacylite, have children, enjoy high standards of living and live together to the end. Majority of boomers lived like chads nowadays and incels were quite rare.

I think this is probably the most accurate response

 

[Corvus]

Like anyone over 25 is going to admit to being a virgin

 

[Choler]

1 percent of the population isn't "only". It means one out of a hundred people. When you think of it that way, it's easy to imagine noticing a fag every day out of the hundreds of people you see. I believe incels are very rare, especially above university age, but they are slowly getting more common. If you want to expand the incel definition to people who have had something before but now don't, there are probably many more.

True, solid point

I don't know how these men can deal with sexual frustration, i suppose the combination of being low IQ, bluepilled and NT makes you able to handle everything in life

 

[TheAbsoluteMaximum]

Like anyone over 25 is going to admit to being a virgin

Yeah, it's a known fact that men increase their numbers and women decrease theirs.

I would say that the true % of incels (meaning men that have never had sex) is actually pretty low. The number that is increasing is the number of men that haven't had sex in some selected number of years.

 

[Choler]

Yeah, it's a known fact that men increase their numbers and women decrease theirs.

I would say that the true % of incels (meaning men that have never had sex) is actually pretty low. The number that is increasing is the number of men that haven't had sex in some selected number of years.

would you say a guy who gets laid 3 -4 times a year is sexually frustrated?

 

[My Name Jeff]

I estimate that around 20% are incels, 60% are normies who have boring relationships, get cheated on and get divorced, but still have sex occassionally and the rest 20% are attractive men whose lives are full of adventures and experiences, then they get married to blonde stacy or stacylite, have children, enjoy high standards of living and live together to the end. Majority of boomers lived like chads nowadays and incels were quite rare.

sounds right to me

 

[unionistcel]

At what age did Britons lose their virginity? | YouGov

One in five admit to first having sex before their 16th birthday

yougov.co.uk

This say 73% of 20 year olds in UK are sex havers so 27%. (Just over 1 in 4)

 

[PersonalityChad]

10% max but it depends on the area.

 

[ethniccel1]

I see many people in blackpill community saying how only chads have sex and every other man is an incel, this is obviously cope and pure autism, whenever i go on tiktok or other social media i see below average males with girlfriends, whenever i go outiside i also see a lot of sub5s with GFs, guys from .org also said they see sub5s with GFs in their countries, so it's not only in south america

But what percentage of men are actually incels?
Percentage of young men who are virgins






I dont buy this shit at all, its just like when they say faggots are only 1% of population, but you see a fag every fucking day/week, or when they say 5'9 is average but everyone outside is taller than you
I think the actual % of virgins/incels is less than 2% of population, sex is a biological need, you have to be extremely fucked up to be sexless, i saw recessed manlet losers with GFs with my own eyes, you see a loser manlet sub5 in the streets and think he is an incel like you? WRONG, he most likely has a girlfriend and gets laid every week

What do you guys think? Tell me your thoughts and hopefully we can put an end to this topic

been a virgin means nothing. Some guys simply dont have access to alot of foids and remain volcel rather than fuck whales and such.

I would say maybe 15% of men are incel

 

[failmaxxed]

Sex is done for non chads. So that's a lot of men.

Yeah pretty much, would even say that most millenial and younger men are incel, at least here, based on my own interactions with my age group and how i never see any couples outside.
Would explain why the birthrate here is less than 1

 

[ConservativeCel]

8% to 12%, most of these too are not virginal and it's not only escortMaxxers, ugly men can sometimes get laid with ugly women/landwhales.

 

[BPJ]

Probably 20-30%
Remember a lot of men will lie and say they aren't virgins when they hit 25+ including me, imagine having to tell someone irl you've never had sex.
Plus a lot of non-incels are probably sexually frustrated too, a lot of normies that got lucky one or two times but aren't nearly as sexually active as they want to be.

id say this sounds about accurate..its a lot more than a lot of mofos here want to believe, but also a lot less than some may think..

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

i think 80% - 95%

 

[Choler]

Some guys simply dont have access to alot of foids and remain volcel rather than fuck whales and such.

Would you consider these men to be incels or at least as sexually frustrated as incels?

 

[Choler]

how i never see any couples outside.

Which country?

 

[Mecoja]

Exactly the same here seeing losers that you mog with GFs is ragefuel

What country do you live in btw?

Serbia. Its in the Balkans.

 

[CrackingYs]

Whatever it is right now, it's safe to say it's increasing at an incredible rate. If it's not at 10-20% right now, it will be soon, and beyond. With online dating basically in a total collapse, the economy in shambles, and everyone's minds and communication skills going rotten by Instagram/TikTok and video games etc... inceldom will become the default. The birth rate is already crashing, but the real collapse, the one that will bring about the end of society and human civilization is definitely coming.

 

[ethniccel1]

Would you consider these men to be incels or at least as sexually frustrated as incels?

anybody not fucking is frustrated. If a man can get foids but refuses the foids around him because landwhales or mental foids etc then he is volcel not incel because as soon as a better womsn comes along he will take her

 

[Choler]

inceldom will become the default

Hopefully, let's pray for it

but the real collapse, the one that will bring about the end of society and human civilization is definitely coming.

Do you honestly believe a collapse will happen? All the signs of a collapse are here, true, but whoever controls the world has everything under control, men are sedated, passive, if you feel awful they give you some pills to get "happy" and keep wageslaving, men are getting more and more weak and women are getting more and more mentally insane and masculine, it's the mouse utopia in a larger scale

But this will never collapse tho, everything is under control and (((they))) don't want it to collapse

 

[TheJester]

Its hard to say how many "incels" there are.

When it comes to pure virginity, about 27% of Gen Z men are virgins.

44% of Gen Z has not dates at all
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1d79w7u/nearly_half_44_of_gen_z_young_men_havent_dated_in/


Only 1.5% of humans (male and females) above age 25% are still virgin.

Thats why after 25 its usually totally over.

Being an Incel is a vague terminus ultimately it comes down to WHY people are involuntary celibate.

Mental problems, social problems, financial problems, low or non existent status, addictions or simply unattractive looks are all reasons.

Then theres also people that are incels but may not say so because they have taken an Escort.

Especially the latter there are more and more such people.

But Redpill and Blackpill are growing. Youtube is definitely seeing an increase of Doomer content.

In my personal opinion theres far more incels then you think.

Tons of Simps on Onlyfans and Co are Incels, they are just not blackpilled.

Gen Z DEFINITELY has the largest amount of incels and this will stay for a while until Gen Alpha takes the place.

The rate of loneliness and thus "incel creation" will definitely increase.

Social Media and Statusdriven forms of "social warfare" are ultimately what will bring forth more and more redpill and blackpill people.

There will definitely be an increased level of "Fakecel" Incels, what I mean with that is that there are definitely men with enough looks and a rather NT mindset
and good enough money and income to secure a girl or have sex even just as a hook up BUT do not take that because for personal reasons they dont want to hook up but rather want a girlfriend, a girlfriend who is their looksmatch.

Every man who calls themselves a "sigma Male" essentially is such a Form of a more modernized Incel.

And I will guarantee you that a large amount of Gen Alpha men will be such people.

If you look at Alphas - MOST of the boys age 12 to 15 look basically identical, you got this "Chad" Hairline and the mewing and same hobbies, everyone I see on the train each day wears the same clothing and the same slang and what these Alphas have in common over other generations is their amount of Social Media consumption.

Alphas consume more social media content then Gen Z and the content itself is QUITE degenerate way more so then the 2000s and 2010s "trends" the New trends are very much making people stupid.

Thus we will have less Alphas interacting with each other physically and thus more inceldom.

 

[CrackingYs]

Hopefully, let's pray for it

Do you honestly believe a collapse will happen? All the signs of a collapse are here, true, but whoever controls the world has everything under control, men are sedated, passive, if you feel awful they give you some pills to get "happy" and keep wageslaving, men are getting more and more weak and women are getting more and more mentally insane and masculine, it's the mouse utopia in a larger scale

But this will never collapse tho, everything is under control and (((they))) don't want it to collapse

I use to be skeptical but lately it sure seems like things are accelerating towards a collapse. The birthrate collapse, combined with the anti-immigration sentiment that is brewing in western countries, plus the rising probability of some kind of prolonged WW3 or at least low-level war or at least trade war between the US, China, Russia, and between NATO and BRICS countries, plus other possible wars like for Taiwan, and between India and China. And then the US taking over Gaza and potentially erupting a major Middle East war. Birth rates are already collapsing and if we have a legit world war the world population is going to get cut in half pretty quick and won't ever recover. Nukes don't even have to be dropped for this to all go really badly.

 

[67InchesSubhuman]

(minors can't be incels)
25% of men between 18 and 30
5% of men 30+

but 80 to 90% of men are non-chads, so they all struggle with women and sexlessness most of the time (the closer to sub5 the worse)

 

[Choler]

Gen Z DEFINITELY has the largest amount of incels and this will stay for a while until Gen Alpha takes the place.

Do you think gen alpha will have more incels than gen z?

I dont know, but one thing i know is that gen alpha men are aware of lookism(thanks to chinktok) and they are already looksmaxxing hard

 

[Choler]

The birthrate collapse

Really?

 

[Choler]

Birth rates are already collapsing and if we have a legit world war the world population is going to get cut in half pretty quick and won't ever recover

this would be ideal, all problems we are facing nowadays are due to overpopulation

 

[Choler]

(minors can't be incels)

cope

 

[McCurryKing]

In my opinion, 3-5% of western men are incel. Getting pussy is easy. Half of the western incels are not even virgin.

 

[Cheap fuck]

By now? I think it's least 30-40% of the male population. Probably even more. Though most of them fall into the ''failed normie'' category

 

[Choler]

I think it's least 30-40% of the male population.

you think 30% - 40% of men are not getting pussy, really?

 

[67InchesSubhuman]

cope

you need to be at least 18 yo to post here