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What is your opinion on MGTOW? Is the red pills enough?

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I was always curious what the Incel community's thoughts are on MGTOW?
 
MGTOW = Normies who were fucked over by women
Red Pill = Normies who never asked a woman out
 
MGTOW guys are just a bunch of copers.

If they didn't announce it they would have my respect.

Those guys give good advice to normies about not getting cucked/divorce raped but that is their only purpose.
 
red pill and black pill are pretty much the same fucking thing. the only difference is that red pillers have more of a focus on game and they generally still have hope/looksmaxx.
 
red pill and black pill are pretty much the same fucking thing. the only difference is that red pillers have more of a focus on game and they generally still have hope/looksmaxx.
So the black pill is about giving up?
 
It's useful to know about female nature. Where else can you find the truth about it?
 
MGTOW guys are just a bunch of copers.

If they didn't announce it they would have my respect.

Those guys give good advice to normies about not getting cucked/divorce raped but that is their only purpose.

How would you know if such a movement existed without them announcing it though?
 
So the black pill is about giving up?

thats the major difference between those two pills.

red pill = you looksmaxx, gamemaxx etc.

black pill = LDAR and give up.

a lot of users on this forum including myself are technically redpillers. there are also slight differences in the two pills philosophys as red pill focuses more on shit like game and confidence a lot whilst black mostly sticks to looks but thats about it.
 
It's useful to know about female nature. Where else can you find the truth about it?

Agreed, i am inclined to believe that incels are being too harsh on MGTOW. Cant say the same thing about PUA and Red Pill though.
 
How would you know if such a movement existed without them announcing it though?

That's the point. It shouldn't have to be a movement. It should just be something men do without making a big deal about it. It should be as natural as breathing, common sense.

Incels are different because there is a lot to discuss about the black pill. MGTOW is not as nuanced and doesn't need a community seems more like a circle jerk.

I am suspicious that it is allowed to exist as well and /r/incels was banned.

I just see them as posers.
 
Black pill is mgtow on steroids to me, added in how important face and body are. Mgtow would tell you women will only want you for your money. But they won't tell you the woman you're with for your money had sex with dozens of chads for free, and only sees you as a beta provider because you're ugly and will probably not give you any sex and cheat on you.

Mgtow will only talk about how risky it is being involved with a woman. But they don't tell you it's only risky because you're an ugly beta. Chads don't have to worry about the same risks and cuckoldry we do.
 
Black pill is mgtow on steroids to me, added in how important face and body are. Mgtow would tell you women will only want you for your money. But they won't tell you the woman you're with for your money had sex with dozens of chads for free, and only sees you as a beta provider because you're ugly and will probably not give you any sex and cheat on you.

Mgtow will only talk about how risky it is being involved with a woman. But they don't tell you it's only risky because you're an ugly beta. Chads don't have to worry about the same risks and cuckoldry we do.

Very true.
 
Black pill is mgtow on steroids to me, added in how important face and body are. Mgtow would tell you women will only want you for your money. But they won't tell you the woman you're paying for had sex with dozens of chads for free, and only sees you as a beta provider because you're ugly and will probably not give you any sex and cheat on you.

Mgtow will only talk about how risky it is being involved with a woman. But they don't tell you it's only risky because you're an ugly beta. Chads don't have to worry about the same risks and cuckoldry we do.

Good summary. Also it's important to mention that are basically two types of MGTOWs: older guys who got divorced raped(the more genuine side) and coping incels who latched on.
 
Good summary. Also it's important to mention that are basically two types of MGTOWs: older guys who got divorced raped(the more genuine side) and coping incels who latched on.
When I called myself mgtow i'm guilty of being the incel who wanted to latch on to something because I related to it the most.
 
Black pill is mgtow on steroids to me, added in how important face and body are. Mgtow would tell you women will only want you for your money. But they won't tell you the woman you're with for your money had sex with dozens of chads for free, and only sees you as a beta provider because you're ugly and will probably not give you any sex and cheat on you.

Mgtow will only talk about how risky it is being involved with a woman. But they don't tell you it's only risky because you're an ugly beta. Chads don't have to worry about the same risks and cuckoldry we do.

Legit. Lots of MGTOWs won't admit they're ugly and think that all women want is money when they really want Chad.

Steve Hoca is one of, if not the only, MGTOWs who recognizes that looks are what hold men back.
 
Legit. Lots of MGTOWs won't admit they're ugly and think that all women want is money when they really want Chad.
Some ugly mgtows think they don't have to spend their money and still get women chasing them. I'd like to see how that works in the street or at clubs.
 
Men SENT their own way = incels in denial
Red pill = the belief that rituals and negging are a secret loophole into a femoid's brain, regardless of looks.
 
Steve Hoca is one of, if not the only, MGTOWs who recognizes that looks are what hold men back.
And he wasn't that ugly compared to the other mgtows I've seen. They'd get a lot more respect if they admitted women don't like them for their looks, and women's standards are out of control.
 
Men
Sent
There
Own
Way
 
When I called myself mgtow i'm guilty of being the incel who wanted to latch on to something because I related to it the most.

It seems like a normal coping strategy when you start to swallow the kind of redpills in movements like that. Then your hobbies of video games and porn get boring and you get blackpilled.
 
I respect the middle-aged members of the MGTOW community who have already been married and divorced - one less betabux saving women from their poor life choices.

The younger members of that community are just incels in denial.
 
It seems like a normal coping strategy when you start to swallow the kind of redpills in movements like that. Then your hobbies of video games and porn get boring and you get blackpilled.
It was a good gateway to the blackpill. I don't know if my brain would handle going from bluepill to blackpill right away. Maybe that's why the beta cucks are having such a hard time swallowing it and we scare them.
 

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