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Blackpill What is the BIGGEST background factor that made the average man look shitty, and stopped natural selection. Thus leading for our modern nightmare.

What was it

  • Religion/inbreeding/noble lords who were short and ugly/ men keeping hypergamy down bc of virtue

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Modern soy/ plastics/ toxic epigenetics

    Votes: 17 68.0%
  • People being generally ignorant of evolution, and when one is aware of it, they focus on gene vanity

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Farmed foods/ agriculture/ grain

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Those who have Typical attractive looks have a hidden genetic component to not wanna breed

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Total voters
    25
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Option number 5 I wrote in simply because it seems like hotter people are not power hungry/ angry/ desiring to propagate and breed constantly. The opposite of that are welfare blacks who collect government checks like crazy by having too many kids, and wanna eventually attack whitey.
 
Female rights and soy
 
Seems that whites are happy and naive by default. Blacks are warrior gene. And asians are materialistic hoarders. Arabs/ Jews are sociopathic 2 face. And mexicans are a mixed bag of violence.
 
It’s choices 2 and 5 primarily
 
Female rights and soy
people were ugly a lot in the 18th and 19th centuries tho. Just more typically roman statue looking whites back then because most jungle ppl didn't have the modern medicine etc. to breed.
 
All of the above choices.
 
Option number 5 I wrote in simply because it for seems like hotter people are not power hungry/ angry/ desiring to propagate and breed constantly. The opposite of that are welfare blacks who collect government checks like crazy by having too many kids, and wanna eventually attack whitey.
for chinks its the first option repeated in extreme for 40000 years to get this anomination
 
for chinks its the first option repeated in extreme for 40000 years to get this anomination
do you think that asians are gonna decline rapidly. because their women are status whores and proud of it. and the men literally lost all testosterone being agricultural for too long.
 
Is mens looks declining? I keep seeing kids with better jawlines than me that was my school age
mog me to death Straight noses and non subhuman, I know they will live a good life eventually while
i rot to death.

Genetics selects winners and loosers
 
do you think that asians are gonna decline rapidly. because their women are status whores and proud of it. and the men literally lost all testosterone being agricultural for too long.
We are going extinct, which is good since this cult should never have existed. I predict the last full blooded chink will be gone before 2150 and definitely before 2200. The last real influence chinks have on the genepool will probably be gone by 2600
 
Is mens looks declining? I keep seeing kids with better jawlines than me that was my school age
mog me to death Straight noses and non subhuman, I know they will live a good life eventually while
i rot to death.

Genetics selects winners and loosers
Nah its all genetic. If doft diets are really to blame for bad jawlines than there wouldnt be any zoomer chads left which we can see isnt true
 
Its out diet mostly like you could have a htn face most probably if you chewed tough food right. Wouldve also been taller and with a way bigger dick if you ate good food
 
yeah but which is the biggest.
I believe that Abrahamic religions have contributed the most to the issue. For centuries, religion has indoctrinated people into prioritizing "moral values" and one's beliefs over physical appearance.
However, various factions opposed to religious rule allowed an appreciation for beauty and art to persist.
This also highlights the hypocrisy of religious zealots, who often depict their gods and messengers as exceptionally attractive men. For example, when Christianity spread to Germanic countries, Jesus was portrayed as a handsome Nordic man, whereas in the eastern regions, he was depicted as a dark-haired, dark-eyed, pale-skinned man of Middle Eastern or Caucasian origins. Similarly, the Shia sects of Islam portray Prophet Muhammad as a tall, strong man with well-defined facial features. However, these objectifications are not important for ordinary believers, for whom the creed and deeds are what truly matter: "it's your personality bro."
Still, Europe's comparatively superior genetic package saved the continent of the genetic decline promoted by these religions, resulting in the continent having the highest Chads and Stacies per capita ratio.
any you think I'm missing?
Wars and the rape that followed? For example, the Moorish conquest and the associated raping in southern Europe.
 
I believe that Abrahamic religions have contributed the most to the issue. For centuries, religion has indoctrinated people into prioritizing "moral values" and one's beliefs over physical appearance.
However, various factions opposed to religious rule allowed an appreciation for beauty and art to persist.
This also highlights the hypocrisy of religious zealots, who often depict their gods and messengers as exceptionally attractive men. For example, when Christianity spread to Germanic countries, Jesus was portrayed as a handsome Nordic man, whereas in the eastern regions, he was depicted as a dark-haired, dark-eyed, pale-skinned man of Middle Eastern or Caucasian origins. Similarly, the Shia sects of Islam portray Prophet Muhammad as a tall, strong man with well-defined facial features. However, these objectifications are not important for ordinary believers, for whom the creed and deeds are what truly matter: "it's your personality bro."
Still, Europe's comparatively superior genetic package saved the continent of the genetic decline promoted by these religions, resulting in the continent having the highest Chads and Stacies per capita ratio.

Wars and the rape that followed? For example, the Moorish conquest and the associated raping in southern Europe.
I was thinking of that too but that didn’t happen everywhere.

Religion and food are far more passive agents of dysgenica.

What’s funny is that religion sucks but it keeps people hot at the same time. Slavs are gonna look like ugly Americans in 2 generations but the reason they’re hot now is because religion kept the women naive and nonaware to option #3. At the same time it didn’t make them completely hot like nords and Germans who are far more cruel to ugly people.
 
I’m surprised you didn’t mention it but the internet has given people access to view the most attractive people in the world at any time. Without the internet we wouldn’t have access to see that many attractive people -this is the only correct answer
 
We are going extinct, which is good since this cult should never have existed. I predict the last full blooded chink will be gone before 2150 and definitely before 2200. The last real influence chinks have on the genepool will probably be gone by 2600
its not good tbh. nigs and beaners shouldn't b the majority.

are you fucking serious that the entire reason asians are gonna die is because the women dont want the men. then number 3 takes it.
 
I’m surprised you didn’t mention it but the internet has given people access to view the most attractive people in the world at any time. Without the internet we wouldn’t have access to see that many attractive people -this is the only correct answer
thats what number 3 is
 
its not good tbh. nigs and beaners shouldn't b the majority.

are you fucking serious that the entire reason asians are gonna die is because the women dont want the men. then number 3 takes it.
Yes, it’s nature. Chinks are a deformed cursed inbreeding cult of suffering.
 
Yes, it’s nature. Chinks are a deformed cursed inbreeding cult of suffering.
ok how do you figure that. "cult"?

do you think they're a mutation? how do you explain this. I find asian girls hot sometimes but a lot of you are ugly yeah.
 
Female rights
This is the biggest factor, along with technology

Men nowadays dont look worse, its just that women have seen the top 1% of men nowadays thanks to the internet. Before, stacey only compared you against the football jock at hs. But now, she compares you against that chico guy who the looksmaxxers worship, and even the football jock from hs looks ltn in comparison to him.

Also somewhat unrelated but it reminded me of a common misconception some people make which is "feminism existing/women being picky nowadays means ugly men will eventually go extinct so its a good thing because ugly people wont exist in the future" but this is wrong because ugly females will always reproduce, meaning ugly men will always exist.
 
Sexual liberalism
 
This is the biggest factor, along with technology

Men nowadays dont look worse, its just that women have seen the top 1% of men nowadays thanks to the internet. Before, stacey only compared you against the football jock at hs. But now, she compares you against that chico guy who the looksmaxxers worship, and even the football jock from hs looks ltn in comparison to him.

Also somewhat unrelated but it reminded me of a common misconception some people make which is "feminism existing/women being picky nowadays means ugly men will eventually go extinct so its a good thing because ugly people wont exist in the future" but this is wrong because ugly females will always reproduce, meaning ugly men will always exist.
what would women in the 50s to 80s think of celebrities then. abstract nonavailable gods.
 
This is the biggest factor, along with technology

Men nowadays dont look worse, its just that women have seen the top 1% of men nowadays thanks to the internet. Before, stacey only compared you against the football jock at hs. But now, she compares you against that chico guy who the looksmaxxers worship, and even the football jock from hs looks ltn in comparison to him.

Also somewhat unrelated but it reminded me of a common misconception some people make which is "feminism existing/women being picky nowadays means ugly men will eventually go extinct so its a good thing because ugly people wont exist in the future" but this is wrong because ugly females will always reproduce, meaning ugly men will always exist.
What do you think of the boomer millennial gaslighters who act like we’re just filled with anxiety.

That’s what I see them do. They virtue signal and white knight and act like only bimbos do what we’re talking about. But people are vastly interconnected now. Women don’t need to be nice to men anymore. Women used to fear men but libtardism will conjure up a white knight that invalidates other men. And mystifies things for women to feel right.
 
I believe that Abrahamic religions have contributed the most to the issue. For centuries, religion has indoctrinated people into prioritizing "moral values" and one's beliefs over physical appearance.
However, various factions opposed to religious rule allowed an appreciation for beauty and art to persist.
This also highlights the hypocrisy of religious zealots, who often depict their gods and messengers as exceptionally attractive men. For example, when Christianity spread to Germanic countries, Jesus was portrayed as a handsome Nordic man, whereas in the eastern regions, he was depicted as a dark-haired, dark-eyed, pale-skinned man of Middle Eastern or Caucasian origins. Similarly, the Shia sects of Islam portray Prophet Muhammad as a tall, strong man with well-defined facial features. However, these objectifications are not important for ordinary believers, for whom the creed and deeds are what truly matter: "it's your personality bro."
Still, Europe's comparatively superior genetic package saved the continent of the genetic decline promoted by these religions, resulting in the continent having the highest Chads and Stacies per capita ratio.
The invention of enforced religion and enforced monogamy has and had nothing to do with the wombs of women that are usually dysgenic by default by their own accord, since every pregnant woman has a 3-5% chance of their offspring being born with congenital deformities, and nothing apart from advanced genetic engineering will be able to fix it. Women can't even produce the tall and handsome men that they desire for mating partners 99% of the time, since genetic recombination always caps it to a point. Bone structure is completely random most of the time, just look at the parents of attractive male models/actors (Leonardo Di Caprio's parents is an ideal example of this) and you'll see that most of them are average looking, you can only say that height and phenotype are really able to be fully inherited. There's legit no difference functionally between a chad and below average looking man of the same phenotype, apart from a few centimeters of bone in leg and a few milimeters on the face.

It is clear that women's wombs will also keep mutating new teratogens and genetic deformities no matter what attempt you make to prevent it, and killing or neuteuring ugly and short men will do nothing to solve that problem. If you kill off the bottom percentile of undesirable short men, the next bottom percentile will replace their role, until it leads to literal human extinction or the tallest man remaining who would then go on to ruin the gene pool and raise the mutational load in the populace because negative alleles would then be combined and passed onto the offspring that would reproduce afterwards, probably creating many inbred babies with their brains inside out or something lol, and the only advantage is them being taller than average, but the height hierarchy will remain so legit nothing will have changed because, the cycle will restart again with the gene pool being full of retarded inbred tallfags, and this would legit lead to human extinction because they probably wouldn't be able to survive for a single second in our ancestral environment.

Female sexual selection was also proved disastrous with the advent of the Agricultural revolution. Many women willingly left their paleolithic environment to reproduce with neolithic farmers because of higher perceived survability and greater food production, only for their children to be born unhealthier and shorter because of wheat and grain replacing the diet they would have had in paleolithic societies:


Also, a good face didn't do you any good in our ancestral environment anyways. Could it have save you from a stronger ugly man punching you to death? Few milimeters of bone structure wouldn't do shit when it comes to that. Also, short men with a stronger muscle mass in our ancestral environment did way better than tall men in survival. They also took up less resources too. You can look at it in animal species too. Why did mammoths die out whilst their shorter related counterparts, elephants, still exist? It's because their bodies used up more food. There's also an extinct species of babirusa that went extinct because of the female members constantly choosing males with big horns, and the offsprings horns' started to grow into their skulls and killed them all.

Also, short and ugly women are more responsible than short and ugly men because 51% of overall genetic makeup of sons comes from mothers. Ugly and short men should always have an incentive to reproduce more because ugly and short women will always be more responsible for creating subhumans than them. And this confirms that female sexual selection has no correlation with genetic fitness or the survival of species, so it's a completely own different thing from natural selection itself, Fisherian runway exists for a reason. Only strength and intelligence should be eugenic traits, and allowing female sexual selection won't do shit at all for that too.

it seems like hotter people are not power hungry/ angry/ desiring to propagate and breed constantly
Where did you get that from? There is no correlation between jutting bone structure that makes one physically attractive and a 'mysterious gene' that causes them to suddenly not think of reproducing? Attractive people have more extrapair mating options in this current life history, so they have more of an incentive to reproduce, so there's no reason as to why they wouldn't be succeeding in mating opportunities. Women have complete freedom over their sexual selection, unlike for men (the sexual selection of men has completely been muted since there is no actual direct male onfighting like what was going on in our ancestral environment) to choose the fathers of their offspring, and these fathers will always be successful enough to reproduce.

If anything, it's because of how women especially in the west, utilise synthetic unnatural methods to prevent pregnancy, like contraceptives and birth control. They do it to avoid the consequences of giving birth, and to try and prolong their neverending quest of finding a sexually desirable man enough that they find attractive enough to reproduce with, and the vast majority of them fail in that quest, either ending up as single mothers in their 30s because of chasing a man with too many extrapair opportunities (99% of the time bad fathers who have low parental investment and would not ensure the survival of these offspring in an ancestral environment), and many of their children have higher rates of autism, down syndrome, and congenital deformities because of the mean age women are reproducing at nowadays.
 
The invention of enforced religion and enforced monogamy has and had nothing to do with the wombs of women that are usually dysgenic by default by their own accord, since every pregnant woman has a 3-5% chance of their offspring being born with congenital deformities, and nothing apart from advanced genetic engineering will be able to fix it. Women can't even produce the tall and handsome men that they desire for mating partners 99% of the time, since genetic recombination always caps it to a point. Bone structure is completely random most of the time, just look at the parents of attractive male models/actors (Leonardo Di Caprio's parents is an ideal example of this) and you'll see that most of them are average looking, you can only say that height and phenotype are really able to be fully inherited. There's legit no difference functionally between a chad and below average looking man of the same phenotype, apart from a few centimeters of bone in leg and a few milimeters on the face.

It is clear that women's wombs will also keep mutating new teratogens and genetic deformities no matter what attempt you make to prevent it, and killing or neuteuring ugly and short men will do nothing to solve that problem. If you kill off the bottom percentile of undesirable short men, the next bottom percentile will replace their role, until it leads to literal human extinction or the tallest man remaining who would then go on to ruin the gene pool and raise the mutational load in the populace because negative alleles would then be combined and passed onto the offspring that would reproduce afterwards, probably creating many inbred babies with their brains inside out or something lol, and the only advantage is them being taller than average, but the height hierarchy will remain so legit nothing will have changed because, the cycle will restart again with the gene pool being full of retarded inbred tallfags, and this would legit lead to human extinction because they probably wouldn't be able to survive for a single second in our ancestral environment.

Female sexual selection was also proved disastrous with the advent of the Agricultural revolution. Many women willingly left their paleolithic environment to reproduce with neolithic farmers because of higher perceived survability and greater food production, only for their children to be born unhealthier and shorter because of wheat and grain replacing the diet they would have had in paleolithic societies:


Also, a good face didn't do you any good in our ancestral environment anyways. Could it have save you from a stronger ugly man punching you to death? Few milimeters of bone structure wouldn't do shit when it comes to that. Also, short men with a stronger muscle mass in our ancestral environment did way better than tall men in survival. They also took up less resources too. You can look at it in animal species too. Why did mammoths die out whilst their shorter related counterparts, elephants, still exist? It's because their bodies used up more food. There's also an extinct species of babirusa that went extinct because of the female members constantly choosing males with big horns, and the offsprings horns' started to grow into their skulls and killed them all.

Also, short and ugly women are more responsible than short and ugly men because 51% of overall genetic makeup of sons comes from mothers. Ugly and short men should always have an incentive to reproduce more because ugly and short women will always be more responsible for creating subhumans than them. And this confirms that female sexual selection has no correlation with genetic fitness or the survival of species, so it's a completely own different thing from natural selection itself, Fisherian runway exists for a reason. Only strength and intelligence should be eugenic traits, and allowing female sexual selection won't do shit at all for that too.


Where did you get that from? There is no correlation between jutting bone structure that makes one physically attractive and a 'mysterious gene' that causes them to suddenly not think of reproducing? Attractive people have more extrapair mating options in this current life history, so they have more of an incentive to reproduce, so there's no reason as to why they wouldn't be succeeding in mating opportunities. Women have complete freedom over their sexual selection, unlike for men (the sexual selection of men has completely been muted since there is no actual direct male onfighting like what was going on in our ancestral environment) to choose the fathers of their offspring, and these fathers will always be successful enough to reproduce.

If anything, it's because of how women especially in the west, utilise synthetic unnatural methods to prevent pregnancy, like contraceptives and birth control. They do it to avoid the consequences of giving birth, and to try and prolong their neverending quest of finding a sexually desirable man enough that they find attractive enough to reproduce with, and the vast majority of them fail in that quest, either ending up as single mothers in their 30s because of chasing a man with too many extrapair opportunities (99% of the time bad fathers who have low parental investment and would not ensure the survival of these offspring in an ancestral environment), and many of their children have higher rates of autism, down syndrome, and congenital deformities because of the mean age women are reproducing at nowadays.
Holy shit, I'm completely amazed! You're just showing off your high IQ now.
I can't reply or refute to this post, /thread.
 
The invention of enforced religion and enforced monogamy has and had nothing to do with the wombs of women that are usually dysgenic by default by their own accord, since every pregnant woman has a 3-5% chance of their offspring being born with congenital deformities, and nothing apart from advanced genetic engineering will be able to fix it. Women can't even produce the tall and handsome men that they desire for mating partners 99% of the time, since genetic recombination always caps it to a point. Bone structure is completely random most of the time, just look at the parents of attractive male models/actors (Leonardo Di Caprio's parents is an ideal example of this) and you'll see that most of them are average looking, you can only say that height and phenotype are really able to be fully inherited. There's legit no difference functionally between a chad and below average looking man of the same phenotype, apart from a few centimeters of bone in leg and a few milimeters on the face.

It is clear that women's wombs will also keep mutating new teratogens and genetic deformities no matter what attempt you make to prevent it, and killing or neuteuring ugly and short men will do nothing to solve that problem. If you kill off the bottom percentile of undesirable short men, the next bottom percentile will replace their role, until it leads to literal human extinction or the tallest man remaining who would then go on to ruin the gene pool and raise the mutational load in the populace because negative alleles would then be combined and passed onto the offspring that would reproduce afterwards, probably creating many inbred babies with their brains inside out or something lol, and the only advantage is them being taller than average, but the height hierarchy will remain so legit nothing will have changed because, the cycle will restart again with the gene pool being full of retarded inbred tallfags, and this would legit lead to human extinction because they probably wouldn't be able to survive for a single second in our ancestral environment.

Female sexual selection was also proved disastrous with the advent of the Agricultural revolution. Many women willingly left their paleolithic environment to reproduce with neolithic farmers because of higher perceived survability and greater food production, only for their children to be born unhealthier and shorter because of wheat and grain replacing the diet they would have had in paleolithic societies:


Also, a good face didn't do you any good in our ancestral environment anyways. Could it have save you from a stronger ugly man punching you to death? Few milimeters of bone structure wouldn't do shit when it comes to that. Also, short men with a stronger muscle mass in our ancestral environment did way better than tall men in survival. They also took up less resources too. You can look at it in animal species too. Why did mammoths die out whilst their shorter related counterparts, elephants, still exist? It's because their bodies used up more food. There's also an extinct species of babirusa that went extinct because of the female members constantly choosing males with big horns, and the offsprings horns' started to grow into their skulls and killed them all.

Also, short and ugly women are more responsible than short and ugly men because 51% of overall genetic makeup of sons comes from mothers. Ugly and short men should always have an incentive to reproduce more because ugly and short women will always be more responsible for creating subhumans than them. And this confirms that female sexual selection has no correlation with genetic fitness or the survival of species, so it's a completely own different thing from natural selection itself, Fisherian runway exists for a reason. Only strength and intelligence should be eugenic traits, and allowing female sexual selection won't do shit at all for that too.


Where did you get that from? There is no correlation between jutting bone structure that makes one physically attractive and a 'mysterious gene' that causes them to suddenly not think of reproducing? Attractive people have more extrapair mating options in this current life history, so they have more of an incentive to reproduce, so there's no reason as to why they wouldn't be succeeding in mating opportunities. Women have complete freedom over their sexual selection, unlike for men (the sexual selection of men has completely been muted since there is no actual direct male onfighting like what was going on in our ancestral environment) to choose the fathers of their offspring, and these fathers will always be successful enough to reproduce.

If anything, it's because of how women especially in the west, utilise synthetic unnatural methods to prevent pregnancy, like contraceptives and birth control. They do it to avoid the consequences of giving birth, and to try and prolong their neverending quest of finding a sexually desirable man enough that they find attractive enough to reproduce with, and the vast majority of them fail in that quest, either ending up as single mothers in their 30s because of chasing a man with too many extrapair opportunities (99% of the time bad fathers who have low parental investment and would not ensure the survival of these offspring in an ancestral environment), and many of their children have higher rates of autism, down syndrome, and congenital deformities because of the mean age women are reproducing at nowadays.
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