What do you think has held back knowledge/ science in human history more, religion or general human irritability?

[Pinpoint]

Common Quantity Autism in the population surely has lead to vast amounts of irritability. I wonder if a lot of autistic special interests don't apprize knowledge, but just things of vanity. I might leave that for a post later.

But what do you all think has hurt human intelligence and knowledge as a whole more? Religion or the general temperament of primal humanity.

 

[seija]

Religion, specifically Christanity has held us back and has held our society back.

 

[mylifeistrash]

women worship / general cuckoldry

 

[Akhnai]

I don't get why people always paint religion as this big evil that destroy science.

Thing is,religions as a whole has little to do with naturalistic knowledge and do not benefit from supressing science.
This is because things religions believe-That there is a God,that God is a triune,that reincarnation happens-are extranaturalistic claims that can neither be proven nor disproven by science.Its philosophy.

Of course there are things like creationism.Or those beliefs in a giant turtle carrying the world.
But religious people can always reinterpret this into something more grounded in reality.
The same applies with areligions and ideologies btw.Ever heard about lysenkoism?

Really,when we get into it,the thing that prevent the progress of science is the lack of funding and the lack of crisis and war in modern age.The lack of capitalism,too.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Humans. As everything that arose as opposition to science arose from humans aka being the common denominator.

 

[femalesentience]

The two arent comparable so superficially and if anyone views religion as an antagonist to human potential they are incredibly low sentience and ill informed. Humanity's primitive temperament is its greatest obstacle by far and across all categories. Religion has at times been an asset and at others a detriment. Capital S Science as religion will be viewed in decades to come as a major inhibitor of authentic progress.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

has held our society back.

In what way? The religion isnt an issue, its only the people that follow it. Which in most cases are totally cucked.

 

[seija]

In what way? The religion isnt an issue, its only the people that follow it. Which in most cases are totally cucked.

Christians essentially stolen & plagiarized Greek art and their culture and claimed it was theirs. Greeks were already advanced with their own society.

 

[keithbauhaus]

Human nature, of course. Male atheists are still biologically wired to court a girl and attempt to support her and their offspring because of gynocentrism.

 

[Ellsworth]

Women and political correctness

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Christians essentially stolen & plagiarized Greek art and their culture and claimed it was theirs. Greeks were already advanced with their own society.

Christianity isnt a race nor a country, so I could only assume that they converted the Greeks to the branch which is Christian Orthodox. The art and culture is still Greek, but its Greek Christian Orthodox.

You have any links I could read regarding this? Seems interesting.

 

[seija]

Christianity isnt a race nor a country, so I could only assume that they converted the Greeks to the branch which is Christian Orthodox. The art and culture is still Greek, but its Greek Christian Orthodox.

You have any links I could read regarding this? Seems interesting.

I do remember watching a youtube video someone linked me a while back where the main idea is that Christianity has stolen the Greeks art & culture but I don't exactly remember the name of the video or I remember the channel that made the video.

 

[LittleDarkAge]

I used to think religion was evil and held society back. It's only in recent years that I have realised that religion might be necessary to prevent a society becoming completely degenerate. Or at least there needs to be something that provides the same functions as a religion.

On reflection, human nature has probably held us back more than religion has

 

[Deleted member 18515]

supposedly the destruction of a library in a city called Alexandria, it has a romantic appeal that one library held all the knowledge known to man. but that's just a myth created by cucks and foids

 

[Deleted member 17599]

Society was far more based when it used to be religious. The abolishment of religion in the west lead to the emancipation of foids and turned men into cucks.

 

[DerPreuße]

A lot of people here are Americans, so they mistake Evangelical Christians as "normal Christians" or as a regular phenomenon.
So they associate that being religious means to be superstitious and only accepting myths or sacred texts like the bible (so written myth) as literal accounts of reality, instead of stories full of metaphors and symbols.

Greek Theater was something explicitly religious, it was a ritual for Dionysos, yet we don't consider this entire art form as something religious anymore. Anything art-related that is part of our identity is Religion. Doesn't matter, if you consider yourself a Christian, Pagan or Atheist, but if you are Western European, then our giant gothic Cathedrals will probably invoke some form of awe in you.
And even if you are a pure Christian, then going deep into a forest is probably a spiritual experience for you too.

And when old germanic myths and sagas are a core part of being a pagan than why do we consider modern art and media as not as similarly important? I don't want to go all bugmen and talk about superhero movies, but it's obvious that Deities like Thor are still kinda alive with the movie and people running around with plastic Mjöllnirs are kinda worshipping Thor in a weird way. (I just wish they were written by a people that was benelovent towards us and don't try to damage our spirit by subversion)

Though there is one thing Christianity can definetly be blamed for, that really halted the advancement of science and that was the transition period from pagan Europe to Christian Europe. Christianity got rid of the private tutor system and many philosphical schools, because they were competitiors. It's kinda understandable in a purely machiavellian sense, but still bad for science long term.
Although it's also really undervalued how it was Muslim Piracy, Slavery and Conquest that set Europe into a Dark Age, not necessarily the fall of the Roman Emperor. Because Visigothic Spain managed to maintain Roman Culture and Standards very well, which is why people love to glorify Muslim Spain after that and give it all the credit for basically inheriting that from Visigothic Spain.

 

[ryhan]

Common Quantity Autism in the population surely has lead to vast amounts of irritability. I wonder if a lot of autistic special interests don't apprize knowledge, but just things of vanity. I might leave that for a post later.

But what do you all think has hurt human intelligence and knowledge as a whole more? Religion or the general temperament of primal humanity.

Secret societies secret cabal's state's have held back humanity

 

[zangano1]

Females

 

[Deleted member 8884]

Niggers and their culture. No one else will say it I will.

 

[Noob Cake]

You got it backwards. Science has kept humanity backwards. Read the unabomber uncle ted’s manifesto. He explains perfectly what is going on today with society because of technological advancements.

 

[DaveBuster]

I used to think religion was evil and held society back. It's only in recent years that I have realised that religion might be necessary to prevent a society becoming completely degenerate. Or at least there needs to be something that provides the same functions as a religion.

This is where I'm at, too. I thought religion was dumb and this regressive force in society, and I still can't bring myself to believe in a god, but I now understand the role religion served in the cultures that practiced it. Globalism is our new religion and it's worse than anything I ever suffered under Christianity.

To answer the OP, what holds back knowledge is fear and the force of groupthink especially when emotionally invested in a certain idea and the worldview around that. That could come from religion, but it can just as easily come from our modern gods like Buzzfeed and Reddit.

 

[LastGerman]

women worship / general cuckoldry

 

[tulasdanslos]

Glad to see most of the forum is blackpilled. Christian monks preserved most of the knowledge we have today. Religion is still bluepilled horse dung with the credibility of a guy saying he observed invisible lava-eating cats, but it isn't at odds with science like basic bitches claim.

 

[Anoncel123]

Many jesuits and other catholics contributed to modern science, as Copernicus, Newton, Bacon, Steno, Mendel. etc. Other example is that a muslim, Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi, was the one who created algebra. Religion has nothing to do with oscurantism.

Only (((political correctness))) is what has held back the progress of humanity as a whole species: as it currently happens with the negationism of the race, the falsification of history and all the sexual deviations that many (((lobbies))) want to normalize.