Discussion What do you think about "male loneliness problem"?

[Limitcel]

I don't see this as a political problem and I don't think anyone should change it, to be honest.
Male loneliness is caused by the fact that the average man has little value to society, this is a biological fact, so no one will have that desire to befriend him like with a woman or a chad
I don't think it's something changeable

The only way to combat male loneliness is with enforced monogamy, I think that will probably be the future if modern capitalist society collapses, (all the moral changes of the last decades are motivated by matters of economic efficiency)

 

[VideoGameCoper]

So many normal men rotting alone is detrimental to their own lives and society as a whole. These are the men that do all the jobs that keep society going, and if these men are depressed and have nothing to live for, society is gonna suffer a lot.

Women don’t realize how much they depend on average men and below average men too, and they are in for a rude awakening in the future.

 

[HotDogCel]

The only way to combat male loneliness is with enforced monogamy

 

[Longboimentalist]

Everything started to fall apart after femoids gained rights. They were doing perfectly as child bearers and housewifes. Guy would come home from work to a warm meal and even warmer kiss and hug. Then they had four kids together. Nowadays, women only get married to get cash, they almost never make children on purpose and are just outright sluts in general. They don't get that by getting right to vote, they ruined thousands of generations of normal humanity and decency

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

The male loneliness problem is more of a symptom of an overall social decay. It indicates a society that is not fulfilling its basic duties, a society that doesn't value its individual members or give men the sense of worth they need to thrive.

Men are necessary and have always been necessary—to make all the things we take for granted. All these cars, houses, computers, internet, smartphones, medicines, infrastructure, etc. Men are responsible for every single one of them, and modern society has discarded men. We don't live in the jungle like simians who can allow hypergamy.

 

[Grodd]

It's foids fault

 

[PolskiKartofel]

Mouse utopia prediction projected into mankind is real

It's foids fault

And even if they want to have children they would want to have only with men meeting their unrealistic expectations and fertility rate will drop down to zero, at least in "developed countries"

 

[Only_Perspective]

Male loneliness is caused by the fact that the average man has little value to society, this is a biological fact, so no one will have that desire to befriend him like with a woman or a chad
I don't think it's something changeable

Pretty much, though it bothers me how simp cucks despite the situation they still can't open their eyes and keep coddling holes.

 

[Limitcel]

Pretty much, though it bothers me how simp cucks despite the situation they still can't open their eyes and keep coddling holes.

Simps made me give up on men, like fuck "men's rights" or some shit like that, I just accepted that men are miserable by nature, slaves to their own libido and female approval

 

[TheJoker]

This is why a lot of men just go out and commit crime, they have had enough.

 

[Only_Perspective]

Simps made me give up on men, like fuck "men's rights" or some shit like that, I just accepted that men are miserable by nature, slaves to their own libido and female approval

If anything cunts are taking the privileges they're being given, which is natural, everyone would do the same. Men are the ones who have absolutely no self-respect and enable them.

 

[daydreamER]

I am male.
I am lonely.
It’s a problem.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

By "male loneliness" I'm going to assume you mean in the broader sense rather than just the "no gf" aspect.

Aside from the fact that an increasingly high percent of young men have never even had a gf or been on a date, a lot of it is because the current culture is extremely socially oppressive, at least from the prospective of an extrovert. People these days are extremely closed off and hyper-introverted. Young people rarely go out just to "hang out" with friends. Most young men have zero problem with most of this though. They're still lonely and want a gf, but most of them just cope with onlyfans or whatever. But aside from that, they have no problems with the hyper-introverted culture that is dominant these days. They have no real interest in the lives of other guys and have no desire for male friendships. Aside from the fact that they want a gf, they're perfectly content with just scrolling on social media, playing video games, watching anime or netflix, and gymcelling. They see absolutely no problem with living this way and their ideal life would be living the same way they do now, just with a gf added.

Zoomers don't even like talking on the phone, they prefer texting. Wanting to talk on the phone is "weird" "creepy" and "boomer-ish". Even online they're closed off, most zoomers think it's "creepy/weird" just to send a DM to someone. If you're DMing someone these days, you better have a damn good reason.

I was very extroverted when I was young and I would have REALLY hated the socially oppressive introvert dominated culture of today had I had to grow up under such conditions.

 

[ERpill]

I think there's no male loneliness problem for normie men. I don't even know why they say that. Everyone has friends and a family and most people have girlfriends. It's probably a reddit thing because redditors are not actually well calibrated normies but a bunch of losers like us except they're also emasculated, low IQ bullies.

 

[Maocel]

average man has little value to society

Male surplus, even having equal number of males as females is too much.

 

[KinkyKanga]

So many normal men rotting alone is detrimental to their own lives and society as a whole. These are the men that do all the jobs that keep society going, and if these men are depressed and have nothing to live for, society is gonna suffer a lot.

Women don’t realize how much they depend on average men and below average men too, and they are in for a rude awakening in the future.

True.

 

[turbosperg]

The only way to combat male loneliness is with

MARXISM-RODGERISM.

if modern capitalist society collapses

Not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when".

We're reaching mouse utopia levels that shouldn't even be possible.

The only issue is what will take over. Islam? Another kiked-up fake religion that worships UFOs, AIs and shit?

I'm partial to a Marxist-Rodgerist foidless society wherein foids are locked in breeding facilities and men are free from female shenanigans.

 

[Rapistcel]

I don't see this as a political problem and I don't think anyone should change it, to be honest.
Male loneliness is caused by the fact that the average man has little value to society, this is a biological fact, so no one will have that desire to befriend him like with a woman or a chad
I don't think it's something changeable

The only way to combat male loneliness is with enforced monogamy, I think that will probably be the future if modern capitalist society collapses, (all the moral changes of the last decades are motivated by matters of economic efficiency)

Unfortunately foids are winning and men are losing

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

Male surplus, even having equal number of males as females is too much.

And not only in relationships, but in all other aspects of soyciety.
With phisical labor becoming less in demand than intellectual jobs, and with women being able to work without being burdened by kids after the sexual liberation, most males became superfluous (and even in some areas surpassed by foids) in the job market. In indian villages in the middle of nowhere, parents kill their foid children because they need to raise more men to work in the fields. But in the technologically advanced society, it's the men that get socially killed because women simply fit in better in the current market.
The "male loneliness problem" is not something that needs direct measures to be fixed, as it's merely a consequence of a surplus of males in a foid-centered system.

 

[Maocel]

n, most males became superfluous (and even in some areas surpassed by foids) in the job

Some posters here claim that men iqmog women by a significant margin, which is backed up by some research. What do you think of that?

some areas surpassed by foids)

Agree in some areas like education, but those jobs arent the most desirable in the first place. You can still hear feminists seethe that women have not broke into STEM industries yet

 

[WeirdPanda]

I think there's no male loneliness problem for normie men. I don't even know why they say that. Everyone has friends and a family and most people have girlfriends. It's probably a reddit thing because redditors are not actually well calibrated normies but a bunch of losers like us except they're also emasculated, low IQ bullies.

This is also why I feel insulted by how foids are calling any man with slightly anti-feminist views an incel nowadays. It's like they just can't accept that there's an hierarchy between men and that incels are at the rock bottom of the hierarchy.

I mean, atleast where I live the average man always has either a wife or a girlfriend. I don't see this bs so I can't really defend it.

 

[based_meme]

It's a sociological problem with economic (and thus political) ramifications. The effects of male loneliness and inceldom have cascading effects that are invisible even when it's too late to do a single thing about it. South Korea and Japan are desperately trying to remedy the problem and find a fix to salvage what's going to be left of their country in the coming decades, but even they can't riposte the inexorable fist that's going to punch a hole right through their nations worse than any WMD ever could.

That's the truly fucked up part about it. Even when it's completely fucking over with no way out nobody still will be able to see the underlying issues. Fact is, even if they do see it they won't address it for various reasons (politics and controversial opinions that could cost careers).

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

Some posters here claim that men iqmog women by a significant margin, which is backed up by some research. What do you think of that?

IQ is not everything. Just because I said that foids fit better in the current market doesn't mean that they have higher IQ than men. And it doesn't mean that foids are better overall either, it's just that the current market sucks and values qualities like amicability, conformity and coscientiousness, which women are more likely to have. I think that men mog foids in logical thinking and visual imagination/spatial reasoning, and most importantly in the ability to be innovative and creativity, foids simply don't have the drive to pursue greatness and only follow orders, no matter their IQ. I do think though that on average foids are better in some specific skills like verbal and social skills, and while they are worse in others, research sadly backs this up.

Agree in some areas like education

Education is made to advantage women unfairly and it's preferred to have it for pretty much any job.

You can still hear feminists seethe that women have not broke into STEM industries yet

You could also argue that there are less foids in STEM simply because they have more choices and they decide to do something else. That's why all the programs to push women in STEM don't work. Just because they have the talent doesn't mean that they also have the passion, I don't know if it's true but it's still a possibility. A good number of men also pursues the STEM path not by choice but because mathemathics is their only talent, while the same can't be said for good mathemathician foids, who still tend to excel verbally and socially (at least in school).

 

[slavcel11]

Loneliness is an existential problem of the male sex. One of the essential features that define a man. Men are just innately alone and not welcomed anywhere. You were born a man - you were granted this male "privilege" and have to make up for it to elevate yourself to a first-class citizen somehow (money/status).

 

[Limitcel]

Loneliness is an existential problem of the male sex. One of the essential features that define a man. Men are just innately alone and not welcomed anywhere. You were born a man - you were granted this male "privilege" and have to make up for it to elevate yourself to a first-class citizen somehow (money/status).

Being a man is a process, I think we are just born male

 

[Wenhao Xu]

It's foids fault

 

[Todd Thundercock]

The solution is returning to the days when we had communities. Local people who took pride in their jobs. The mailman, plumber, car repairman, etc... they all knew who each other were and wanted to make each other lives better for everyone in the area so we all thrived. This has been completely eroded in the past 50 years.

I believe men want male friendships today, but once you reach puberty, you realize it's pointless. Men will throw each other under the bus for pussy and there's no other fabric binding us together.