For me it's the implications and humiliation of not being desired by anyone ever.
Discussion What bothers you most, being a virgin or the humiliation of being a virgin (undesirable, unattractive)?
The physical aspect of being deprived of sex, cuddling, and love bothers me way more than the social stigma. But the social stigma is a severely underrated aspect
Ahh social stigma. Those are the words I was looking for my man.
Same here. If I lost my virginity to a hooker I’d still feel like utter shit knowing that I am still just as undesirable as before
Same. The only reason I want to lose it to a hooker is to feel the physical aspect of it and truthfully say I'm not a virgin
same but idc about the social stigma, its not like people are asking me.
but maybe later when my parents start asking, i will feel it more
Yeah exactly. The knowledge she is disgusted by me...
I found a local massage parlor with Chinese bitches, and I might go there for a basic massage soon and see if they offer me a "happy ending" afterwards. Gonna try when I have spare cash and I feel up to it. I'll bring $400 with me so I have enough money to pay for the happy ending if they offer it.
I'm so desperate to escortmaxxx ASAP to at least feel it and know I'm not physically a virgin anymore. It really pisses me off that USA is so cucked and prostitution is illegal almost everywhere
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Parents are the least of your concerns. Picture having to lie to your coworkers, acquaintances, and maybe even boss. If your parents find out, they most likely will still care about you if they are decent. And jfl, they probably already know you never had a gf. They are the safest people to tell. Imagine what would happen if your coworkers find out. Something I worry about almost every day I go to work
The humiliation of being ugly/undesirable is the worst for me.
Let us know how it goes
It drives me crazy
why would coworkers care?
ik my parents will always care for me, but i would feel ashamed, since i cant give them grandkids.
how old are you? im 19
I will if I end up doing it. I don't know when or if I'm gonna do it, because I fear legal trouble
the social and mental humiliation and shame of being a virgin, and potentially dying virgin, and being the end of my bloodline
You underestimate normie social dynamics. Getting along with and respected by coworkers is generally just as important or more important than how good you are at the job itself. If they find out you are KHHV, they will treat you like literal dirt and make your life hell. All respect will be lost, and you will probably catch hell there until you quit and try again elsewhere. This is why you NEVER tell them you never had a gf. Always lie, trust me.
Sounds like they are good parents. That's good. Mine were good to me as well. I could care less about having kids though. I told them that I never wanted kids long before I knew I'd be incel.
Basically the same age. I assume you NEET?
Ah if they ask you though it should be OK right, I heard of something like they can't entrap you
but if i get caught lying that would be only worse right? and tbh i dont really speak with coworkers since my job is pretty dependant, i dont see coworkers for like hours on end
yh i have always wanted kid, even when i was a kid so idk.
no i go to college and work.
i wish i could neet but i still live at my parents house and i want to move out.
idk how you guys can neet bro, where are you gettin money, if not from disablity checks or stuff like that
what kind of job have you had that has that kind of dynamics? if i hear that it sounds like an office job.
thats why i want to graduate, and just get remote work, from home
Yes. You have to let them ask. If they don't ask, you have to accept defeat and leave
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imo hooker is better then arranged marriage.
Can't go into details about the job, as I do not want to risk potential doxxing. But rest assured office jobs and many blue collar jobs are like this, as I have seen it in many places. If it's anything better than McDonald's or some other basic job where the turnover is insanely high, it's gonna be just like this.
Good luck with that. Remote jobs are very hard to come by. But hope it works
Possibly
You are stronger than me being able to hold a job and go to school while dealing with this bullshit
bro i dont have a choice, i hate this shit with a passion but my parents wouldnt like me dropping out
Try to get along with people and lay low. Don’t go into too much details about much of your life. If they ask if you currently have a girlfriend, I’d say, “Not at the moment”. This way you don’t have to be stuck when they ask for her name or to see pictures. But it also implies you have indeed had girlfriends in the past.
Now if they ask if you’ve ever had a girlfriend, this is much harder to successfully get past. I’d straight up lie and just casually say yeah. And if they ask about what it was like, just tell them it was good but you had to cut things off because of disagreements.
I have had to straight up lie about this before to save face. It’s difficult lying straight through your teeth like that and keeping a straight face and normal voice tone
I feel ya, stay strong brother
alright thanks
you too
Both really it's Being ugly which leads to being a virgin which leads to humiliation 
it's a cycle
it's a cycle
No problem. I don’t want to see any of you get more hell from this shit. I’m not joking when I say that they would make my life hell if they knew I was KHHV. You just gotta be clever to lie and try to steer conversations away from sex and relationships in the first place, as it’s best to never even be asked.
But it isn’t always avoidable
yh i dont talk to them anyway tbh, unless i have to ofc
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I'm not really bothered by either. I couldn't give a rat's ass about the social implications, and while I imagine being loved romantically must be nice, I'm not really bothered by the fact I'm not.
THE HUMILIATION OBVIOUSLY
exactly. We can just genuinely masturbate or get a sex doll but we are seen as losers and freaks and foids aren't shy about their disgust towards us
Smart
The lack of future.
Yes. Strictly being a virgin is easy to fix. Might have to travel if you want to do it legally. Also all the missed milestones and mental development.
It's entirely the lack of meaning to life for me.
i try to avoid normtards as much as possible by NEETing so the humiliation of being subhuman and undesirable isn't nearly as bad as being touch deprived.
Same. If they don't know we exist they aren't laughing at us
Trust me I feel you brother. It is very distressing that the most exciting things we can hope to do in our lives are playing vidya or watching a movie
This. That is so fucking based , it made me tear up a bit , may the god's blessings come your way!
this, it ruins my self esteem and makes me feel terrible about myself
Even without the social stigma, being a touch-starved khhv is incredibly painful. Your body is constantly flooded with cortisol. You constantly feel stressed, agitated, lonely, depressed, inadequate and irritable. And you experience a constant sense of emptiness and adhedonia to any pleasurable emotion. It kills your drive to do anything. Sometimes it's hard to sleep.You can't live healthily like this. This deprivation will one day kill me.
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also, people don't even ask me if i am a virgin or been in a relationship, they just assume i am a virgin
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