Experiment What are your thoughts about thug/criminal/serial killermaxxing? Do you think it's legit?

[Mainländer]

I was reading this RoK article and it got me thinking.

http://www.returnofkings.com/58136/how-to-get-women-to-pay-for-stuff-and-buy-you-presents

I personally think thugness matters, although less so than looks or status, like I explained here. It can surely help, but merely dressing kinda thuggish and blasting some hip hop or something won't suffice if you're ugly, that much would only help a high tier normie or so. As a sub4, you'd have to go to extremes to be able to compensate for your poor looks, like being an internationally famous druglord or serial killer, which in my opinion isn't worth it.

 

[Deleted member 14866]

its cope

 

[Mainländer]

its cope

How do you explain average- to below-average-looking serial killers who get/got lots of females after them, like Charles Manson, the Park Maniac, Elliot Rodgers, etc?

 

[Dregster]

Nah its more like a bandaid

Shortterm success, but it won't net you anything of worth, unless you want to deal with ratchet ghetto subhumans.

 

[virgin4life]

Being a thug driving Ferraris and Lambos certainly makes whores open up their pants for you.

 

[Deleted member 14866]

How do you explain average- to below-average-looking serial killers who get/got lots of females after them, like Charles Manson, the Park Maniac, Elliot Rodgers, etc?

well yeah dark triad is sort of legit if you are NOT sub4. but 1/3 of dark triad is psychopathy and you cant really "maxx" that. some of those guys also have status due to them being household names after doing their deeds so that could be a factor

 

[gnomen1]

Please tell me how to emulate the behavior a high testosterone brain. You have to be a natural sociopath to play this game.

How do you explain average- to below-average-looking serial killers who get/got lots of females after them, like Charles Manson, the Park Maniac, Elliot Rodgers, etc?

Charles Manson was a musician and a sociopath. Elliot Rodger doesn´t have a female following to speak of.

Psychopath´s are actually good looking. What we call ugliness is something scientists describe as fluctuating asymmetry or FA. A low level of fluctuating asymmetry is also called beauty.

"One study looking at offenders and non-offenders found that, although offenders had higher levels of FA overall, psychopathic offenders had lower levels of FA compared to offenders who did not meet the criteria for psychopathy. Additionally, offenders with the highest levels of psychopathy were found to have similar levels of FA to non-offenders.[41]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluctuating_asymmetry#Mental_health_in_humans

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

I was reading this RoK article and it got me thinking.

http://www.returnofkings.com/58136/how-to-get-women-to-pay-for-stuff-and-buy-you-presents

I personally think thugness matters, although less so than looks or status, like I explained here. It can surely help, but merely dressing kinda thuggish and blasting some hip hop or something won't suffice if you're ugly, that much would only help a high tier normie or so. As a sub4, you'd have to go to extremes to be able to compensate for your poor looks, like being an internationally famous druglord or serial killer, which in my opinion isn't worth it.

Yes I have always thought thugmaxxing or just "dark" personality in general is legit, serial killers and other dangerous criminals who have average or even ugly looks get love letters after their infamy. I have also witnessed it in real life many times that women seems attracted to that behaviour and even admitted it. I think people here are too stubborn and overly pessimistic and maybe even stupid when they straight out deny that something besides looks can do a difference.

 

[ihaveno1]

depends on the extent, if ur in jail for too long then u dont have access to fuck the foids that want u

 

[Gabe]

It's legit if you already have a certain level of attractiveness. A normie that thugmaxxes can gain a few SMV points, a truecel can not.

 

[SchrodingersDick]

https://incels.is/threads/handicapm...nd-why-non-thugmaxxing-only-hurts-you.110904/

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Every maxxing is cope if ur don't have enough face to be worshipped

 

[NEETAndTidy]

Yes its legit. But... the prison. It's probably not worth the pussy.

 

[Sans]

I think it's legitimate, but I wouldn't do it.

 

[Mainländer]

Yes its legit. But... the prison. It's probably not worth the pussy.

I think it's legitimate, but I wouldn't do it.

Yeah my thoughts as well.

Also, good to have you back, NEET.

 

[Lubricure]

Yes, it's legit. The prerequisites are looks above a certain threshold and having nothing to lose. Criminals have higher SMV than their exact law abiding counterparts, but it gets very rewarding at Meeks level or in that ballpark.

I wouldn't ever do it neither as a long term nor a short term strategy, even if I could. Thugmaxxing would give me too many worries with law enforcement, without any guarantees. I feel sciencemaxxing fits me better, aka playing the mad scientist.

 

[gnomen1]

Of course antisocial behavior works.

But how far will emulating the behavior of psychopaths and low inhib thugs take you if you are autistic, schizoid, frame-challenged, manlet or truecel? Even if your body is riddled with piercings and tattoos, foids will immediately discard you when they notice that you are not a natural killer. It´s no different from incels imitating Chads PUA-techniques.

 

[Tempus Edax Rerum]

Women are attracted to power.
Being a serial killer or a thug is just one way for you to signal that you are powerful.

You can be perceived as powerful by women, even if you have a weeb YouTube channel talking about latest anime(and ofc garner a huge following by doing so) They will see you as powerful(someone that can influence others), and their panties will be soaked.

So serial killer maxing is just one form of expressing your power. There are other ways as well.

 

[TheRiseOfCope]

I don't think it works. I think looks is the only game in town

 

[Darth Cialis]

It works boosting your status, it's not separate from it.

 

[Mainländer]

It works boosting your status, it's not separate from it.

Interesting perspective.

Back when I went to a therapist, I told her about the fact women love psychopathic serial killers (I had just begun flirting with the blackpill back then, I was a lot into the redpill) and her argument against that notion is that serial killers get a lot of visibility through the media, etc, so so fucking many women got to see them that it was natural that some would manifest some interest in them.

 

[Darth Cialis]

Interesting perspective.

Back when I went to a therapist, I told her about the fact women love psychopathic serial killers (I had just begun flirting with the blackpill back then, I was a lot into the redpill) and her argument against that notion is that serial killers get a lot of visibility through the media, etc, so so fucking many women got to see them that it was natural that some would manifest some interest in them.

Very interesting perspective from your therapist, but it's probably visibility+dark triad. I think dark triad is also perceived very alpha in general.

 

[happiless]

It can help, but thugmaxxing alone isn't enough if you're a sub-4

 

[Mainländer]

Very interesting perspective from your therapist, but it's probably visibility+dark triad. I think dark triad is also perceived very alpha in general.

Yeah, in the thread I linked in OP, I talked about the inceldom triad, but the categories intersect, as well as one thing contributing to the other.

If you have Chad-tier looks, for example, status and money tend to come way easier than they come to an ugly incel.

 

[Deleted member 17599]

No man

 

[SA incel life]

rapists are cool

 

[StaroRavager]

JFL @ becoming a criminal just so you can score

 

[seija]

Even though it may work in getting short-term goals, it won't work for long-term goals. I rather not thugmaxx, serial killermaxxing and criminalmaxx because it won't get me the person that I truly want.

 

[Mainländer]

I recall that @Ryo_Hazuki was a staunch critic of the thugmaxx theory, I summon him here.

 

[Reprobus]

It is possible, it gives you a great deal of status aswell. Jeffery Dahmer's fat ass got fan mail from females and Alek Minassin did too, you don't even need to be a chad serial killer like Ted Bundy to suddenly become Jesus among them.

 

[brunson]

A lot of these women are too mentally screwed up to have a real relationship so they write love letters and even get married to killers they will never have sex with. Most incels are weaker than average, so you'll end up having sex with Tyrone, not some criminal loving hot woman.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Prob legit if youre at least average looking and white

JFL @ becoming a criminal just so you can score

its already over ethnics if people are just telling them to "thugmaxx". Just risk your life and possibly end up in jail getting buttraped to get a foid brooo

 

[MrIncelSaySo2000]

I have been a proponent of the bad boy/violence theory for a long time but it doesn't work for the every male, every male could be violent bum losers but at what cost? You're either going to be dead or serving life in prison by the time women succumb to your bad boy imagine

 

[GetFucked]

just tedbundymaxx bro, there's no downsides

 

[wizardcel]

It might work if you want a favelada

 

[gigacel123]

How do you explain average- to below-average-looking serial killers who get/got lots of females after them, like Charles Manson, the Park Maniac, Elliot Rodgers, etc?

ER got females?

 

[quinn24]

If you're good looking or maybe average looking then I could see it adding halo

but not ugly

 

[Deleted member 14866]

@FrailPaleStaleMale is proof that thugmaxx theory is cope

 

[Mystic]

Truly it depends.

 

[Deleted member 16390]

am curious to how the foid think when she is attracted to someone who wield physical power and prowess over another man, does she think if this guy loves me , he will kill to protect me?
There are plenty of other combat skills and sports that men can prove their physical mastery over other men .and have resulted in killings.
boxing, martial arts, american football, policeman, hunting, using various weapons to hunt and kill people and animals, special forces soldiers, wrestling, assassins, most of them can be done legally with out the risk of prison.

also i think it may be common for rich and high status royalty foids to be attracted to primal strong men type, Being super rich usually mean one have to step and stomped over many people to get that wealth, the wealthier , the more people one have to stomp. Having lots of money is also having the power to destroy many people , 5k or 10k may be all is needed to get an assassin for a hit, a more important person will cost more.
So the Rich/Aristocratic Foid/ ViolentCombat dude couple can have more common ground and complement each other quite well.

 

[Mainländer]

ER got females?

He got some saying he's cute and whatnot after the attack.

 

[Romello Gaghan 2]

It might be legit. I guarantee not enough incels have actually tried it to know for certain.

ER was far from truecel but just for example: if he would have honed his killer instincts over time and not to the abrupt explosive degree that he did, he may have ended up attracting girls while he was still breathing.

 

[Terranigma]

Yeah, blackcels who don't believe in JBB should just join a gang if they have no ethical objections.

 

[GetFucked]

Yeah, blackcels who don't believe in JBB should just join a gang if they have no ethical objections.

Just go to prison and join the BGF bro, you'll get mad ratchet pussy, totally worth it bro

 

[Deleted member 11032]

Hybristophillia is legit. Make sure you are entitled to congenial visits tho.