LDAR What are desirable and realistic options for me, or for other long term LDARcels?

[Deleted member 8353]

I mean specifically those who can't NEET indefinitely, either due to not being able to get NEETbuxx, or because they don't come from a rich family.

Whenever the topic comes up and I've mentioned my intentions to kill myself elsewhere online, people tend to assume that I'm just saying that. Which is fair I guess, as most people who talk about suicide won't go through with it. But the thing is, when both my parents are dead I'm fucked. As in imminent homelessness, no remaining close family or irl friends, after lifelong inceldom and many years of isolation. On top of that, the only thing preventing me from roping today is not wanting to hurt my parents, that's literally all.

My question is, since normies seem to believe that this is so unreasonable, what other options are more desirable? Try desperately to get some low tier wageslave job which is even worse than being NEET? Learn a trade? Try to make money online? The issue is that I have severe social anxiety, no talents to speak of, extremely low energy, and I'm bad at basically everything that I do. I'm not afraid to die anymore, I have no realistic hope of ascension, and the primary thing I enjoy is simply forgetting that I exist in this world, so my motivation to do any of this shit is basically zero. You know the feeling of wanting to obtain something in the future, and preference to avoid missing out on whatever the future might hold? For me both of these are gone now.

My health seems to be getting worse, my already awful eyesight (degenerative myopia) is getting worse, and living to old age sounds awful. Am I missing something here? Do most people just understand something about life which I don't? To me it seems like it's the other way around, idk how most people do it, push through the bullshit day after day. Anything more than sitting in my chair, or lying on my bed feels like exertion. I can consciously feel the pull of gravity upon my body despite not even being overweight. It's fucking unreal how much past experiences shape your perception of reality.

 

[universallyabhorred]

ER, sui or LDAR. First two end your suffering, maybe even allow you to make the world a better place. The last one means you will die a miserable lonely death.

 

[ReallyRice]

ER

 

[Deleted member 8353]

ER, sui or LDAR. First two end your suffering, maybe even allow you to make the world a better place. The last one means you will die a miserable lonely death.

Tbh, it's so fucking over.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Very good thread. This is literally the thing that stresses me out the most, and that's why I bitch and moan about it so often.

Actually I started writing a big post but I was doxxing myself more than I am now so I deleted it.

Anyway, realistically it's getting a dead-end job with shitty pay. That's what's going to happen to me in ~10 months. My shitty and useless degrees probably won't help at all, and even with degrees people in this country barely make $300 a month before taxes. So I'll have to slave my ass off from 9 to 5 + commute, just for some measly dollars that can't buy shit. Though of course first I'll have to actually search and compete for that shitty job that I don't even want and doesn't pay well. Ahh, the joys of capitalism. As for being self-employed, that would be my dream but it's not realistic, 99% of business fail, leaving their owners bankrupt. The only people that do succeed are the ones that start the businesses with daddy's or hubby's money, or that are seriously connected and corrupt in other ways.

As for suicide, it's not for me. I've been depressed since ~13, I've thought about suicide intensely for a long time. It's just not gonna happen, I'm too much of a pussy and also I don't want to hurt my parents more than I've hurt them in this life, I've been a horrible and ungrateful son already. Even after they die I won't do it cause I'm too much of a pussy. I did kinda try once when I was drunk on 2 bottles of vodka and drank 19 pills of caffeine worth 38 cups of coffee, but idk if that was a suicide attempt or what, I was so drunk I don't remember what the fuck I was doing, made no sense.

So in conclusion, the answer is slavery. No way around it. There's just no other way, anything else is pure fantasy.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

You'll wageslave for some dead end job at some point. When you'll inevitably be confronted with the idea of being homeless ans starving, your brain will finally make efforts to push you towards that bit of money you could get.

 

[IncelKing]

you should kill yourself.

Im not saying this to be mean, i just think its the best thing to do given your circumstances. Your life will never improve, all that awaits you is more pain/suffering, we're going to all die anyway so why prolong the inevitable?

For low-tier males, existence is nothing but torture, missing out on life's pleasures/enjoyment while seeing others experiencing what we'll never experience. Killing ourselves is an act of mercy for our consciousness.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

you should kill yourself.

Im not saying this to be mean, i just think its the best thing to do given your circumstances. Your life will never improve, all that awaits you is more pain/suffering, we're going to all die anyway so why prolong the inevitable?

For low-tier males, existence is nothing but torture, missing out on life's pleasures/enjoyment while seeing others experiencing what we'll never experience. Killing ourselves is an act of mercy for our consciousness.

brutal truth

OP, do you ever wanna escortcel? if you can't, why go on?

 

[The Abyss]

Find a job with minimal interaction with others expected (good luck with that now) or suicide or turn to crime/homelessness.

I got nothing beyond a few ideas that are probably not correct.

 

[Hate_my_life]

you should kill yourself.

Im not saying this to be mean, i just think its the best thing to do given your circumstances. Your life will never improve, all that awaits you is more pain/suffering, we're going to all die anyway so why prolong the inevitable?

For low-tier males, existence is nothing but torture, missing out on life's pleasures/enjoyment while seeing others experiencing what we'll never experience. Killing ourselves is an act of mercy for our consciousness.

As much as I'd hate to admit it, there's no other solution in my opinion.

You can either be a slave to society (Goodluck doing that for 20+ years after the mental torture of the education system + your teenage years) or sign out from living.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Very good thread. This is literally the thing that stresses me out the most, and that's why I bitch and moan about it so often.

Actually I started writing a big post but I was doxxing myself more than I am now so I deleted it.

Anyway, realistically it's getting a dead-end job with shitty pay. That's what's going to happen to me in ~10 months. My shitty and useless degrees probably won't help at all, and even with degrees people in this country barely make $300 a month before taxes. So I'll have to slave my ass off from 9 to 5 + commute, just for some measly dollars that can't buy shit. Though of course first I'll have to actually search and compete for that shitty job that I don't even want and doesn't pay well. Ahh, the joys of capitalism. As for being self-employed, that would be my dream but it's not realistic, 99% of business fail, leaving their owners bankrupt. The only people that do succeed are the ones that start the businesses with daddy's or hubby's money, or that are seriously connected and corrupt in other ways.

As for suicide, it's not for me. I've been depressed since ~13, I've thought about suicide intensely for a long time. It's just not gonna happen, I'm too much of a pussy and also I don't want to hurt my parents more than I've hurt them in this life, I've been a horrible and ungrateful son already. Even after they die I won't do it cause I'm too much of a pussy. I did kinda try once when I was drunk on 2 bottles of vodka and drank 19 pills of caffeine worth 38 cups of coffee, but idk if that was a suicide attempt or what, I was so drunk I don't remember what the fuck I was doing, made no sense.

So in conclusion, the answer is slavery. No way around it. There's just no other way, anything else is pure fantasy.

A few years ago I wouldn't have been able to do it, as just the state of being awake wasn't such a fucking drain on me. Also I think that it helps if you can make yourself believe that you'll wake up living a life that you actually want to live, or really anything that comforts you. Even if it isn't true, what's the harm if it helps? People have difficulty imaging the lack of experience, even if that wouldn't be capable of hurting them, it can become impossible to see it as desirable to any actual future. I know what you mean about not wanting to hurt your parents though, that's exactly how I feel, which is why I won't rope until they die. Or at least I probably won't, I'm not so sure anymore as I have strong urges to rope somewhat often, but I feel extremely guilty just thinking about hurting my parents like that, even if it's partially irrational.

Yeah slaving away is probably the last thing I want to do, I know I wouldn't be able to handle it and I'd just end up snapping at some point anyway. So actually it's not just a problem of not wanting to do it, as I don't think that I'd be capable of holding a job for long. In your case the obvious suggestion would be to try and move to a country with higher pay, but I imagine that you wouldn't be in this situation if that were an actual option.

Sometimes I think about things I could do to support myself, the best option is probably to try and make money online, but I never find the energy to bother with it because I just don't care. I can't picture a scenario where living just for or the sake of myself is worthwhile, and I'm far more averse to living to old age as opposed to putting myself through a minute or so of pain. Even disregarding my shit life circumstances, many people have far worse lives than me and don't kill themselves. The only conclusion I can come to is either that something is just wrong with me, or something is wrong with them. I've even tried to take several SSRIs in the past but none of them helped either.

you should kill yourself.

Im not saying this to be mean, i just think its the best thing to do given your circumstances. Your life will never improve, all that awaits you is more pain/suffering, we're going to all die anyway so why prolong the inevitable?

For low-tier males, existence is nothing but torture, missing out on life's pleasures/enjoyment while seeing others experiencing what we'll never experience. Killing ourselves is an act of mercy for our consciousness.

I know what you mean, those are more or less my thoughts on it as well. This is the sort of thing I think about too, nothing good awaits me in the future.

OP, do you ever wanna escortcel? if you can't, why go on?

Maybe I could, but my location and living situation make it impossible currently. I'm also unsure if it would benefit me at all.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

A few years ago I wouldn't have been able to do it, as just the state of being awake wasn't such a fucking drain on me. Also I think that it helps if you can make yourself believe that you'll wake up living a life that you actually want to live, or really anything that comforts you. Even if it isn't true, what's the harm if it helps? People have difficulty imaging the lack of experience, even if that wouldn't be capable of hurting them, it can become impossible to see it as desirable to any actual future. I know what you mean about not wanting to hurt your parents though, that's exactly how I feel, which is why I won't rope until they die. Or at least I probably won't, I'm not so sure anymore as I have strong urges to rope somewhat often, but I feel extremely guilty just thinking about hurting my parents like that, even if it's partially irrational.

Yeah slaving away is probably the last thing I want to do, I know I wouldn't be able to handle it and I'd just end up snapping at some point anyway. So actually it's not just a problem of not wanting to do it, as I don't think that I'd be capable of holding a job for long. In your case the obvious suggestion would be to try and move to a country with higher pay, but I imagine that you wouldn't be in this situation if that were an actual option.

Sometimes I think about things I could do to support myself, the best option is probably to try and make money online, but I never find the energy to bother with it because I just don't care. I can't picture a scenario where living just for or the sake of myself is worthwhile, and I'm far more averse to living to old age as opposed to putting myself through a minute or so of pain. Even disregarding my shit life circumstances, many people have far worse lives than me and don't kill themselves. The only conclusion I can come to is either that something is just wrong with me, or something is wrong with them. I've even tried to take several SSRIs in the past but none of them helped either.

I know what you mean, those are more or less my thoughts on it as well. This is the sort of thing I think about too, nothing good awaits me in the future.

Maybe I could, but my location and living situation make it impossible currently. I'm also unsure if it would benefit me at all.

I don't think you should kill yourself. I know how it feels to be in your state though, and I know for a fact nobody can ever say anything to change your mind, saying anything will seem even laughable, cringe or even cruel. There's nothing I can say, no advice I can give, they would all seem cliche or platitudes. But I just feel like you shouldn't kill yourself. Life sucks, it's true, but unless you're in permanent physical pain, then there are reasons to remain alive too. It takes a little bit of imagination, a little bit of curiosity, things that I and probably you too have kind of lost through the years of depression. But there are things in existence that can be pleasant, amongst all the pain. Anyway, it doesn't matter. You do you, I just hope you somehow manage to make yourself a little happy and focus on the little pleasures that life can offer, as silly as that may sound.

 

[your personality]

Try to save up enough money to move to a country with a less severe prison industrial complex, less neglect of the poor and that has a better accomodations for NEETs.
But because of globalization and immigration those countries may not stay that way forever.
Scandinavian countries might be an option if you can bear the high taxes and socially liberal feminist government policies.

 

[SirIncel]

Luckily in my country I can always leech off welfare. I've been a neet for a year now and live of the government + my parents and my doctor even offered me to write me unemployable so I don't even have to write applications for now.

So maybe move to Central Europe / Scandinavia if it's possible. Or maybe join a monastery.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Try to save up enough money to move to a country with a less severe prison industrial complex, less neglect of the poor and that has a better accomodations for NEETs.

So maybe move to Central Europe / Scandinavia if it's possible. Or maybe join a monastery.

It's not a bad idea, but idk how I'm going to move to another country when I can barely leave my house. Also I obviously need income to do that in the first place. Just lol. Sometimes I wish that I could just start my life over, but honestly I don't even want to go through the same bullshit again, even if I would do things differently.

 

[your personality]

It's not a bad idea, but idk how I'm going to move to another country when I can barely leave my house. Also I obviously need income to do that in the first place. Just lol.

Yeah I think a lot more people would move away from anglo nations with a more historically "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" culture expected for men like the US and the UK if they had enough money to do that.

Sometimes I wish that I could just start my life over, but honestly I don't even want to go through the same bullshit again, even if I would do things differently.

I had wanted to start my life over for the longest time, but I got a chance to kind of do that a few years ago by bluepilling myself and trying to cope with politics and focusing on the bigger picture like stuff having to do with the economy and moneymaxxing. But obviously it didn't work out well since I'm on this site now lol.

I think you're right about how if you got a chance to start your life over you might just go through the same things again. Realizing this showed me how many factors are out of my control and determine whatever my day to day interactions with others will be like in the future regardless of any actions I take to try and improve.

 

[Eschewcel]

Can't you go back to school/uni, or at least get some schooling for something you could do?
Let's be honest, times in which you could climb the job ladder even as a neet are done for good. Once you're at the bottom, you'll stay there...

 

[Caesercel]

What makes you think your parents will support your neetdom until they die?

Anyway, realistically this is what is gonna happen. You can either
A. Continue getting neetbuxx from government(if you live in first world). You may eventually end up as a homeless hobo. Or in some home for poor.

B. Become a wageslave in a dead end career to support yourself and pay rent/bills. Here too you will eventually end up homeless or living in some one room shack. You will probably give up on wageslaving in your 40s and embrace the hobo life. Get neetbuxx as well

C. Inherit wealth from your parents and maybe a home. Then continue to ldar.

As for suicide let me tell you this. Wageslaving would make you even more suicidal than NEETdom. If you stay NEET you have objectively better chances of survival.

Now the best thing you could do is probably go ER. But I don't think you got the stomach for something like that.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Why do you need your parents to survive?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

What makes you think your parents will support your neetdom until they die?

My parents enable my self-destructive behavior, especially my mother whom I live with. Tbh if they were the sort to make me wageslave then I wouldn't really worry about living for their sake.

Why do you need your parents to survive?

I've spent the past 8 years in self-isolation, haven't had an actual job since I was 17.

 

[tehgymcel420]

Can relate to much of this. Being a sand nigger I've got no realistic chance of ascension. My future and career prospects are looking bleak, so I couldn't betabux even if I wanted to. Also got bad eyesight and my teeth are in bad shape, really don't want to live much longer.

 

[FrothySolutions]

I've spent the past 8 years in self-isolation, haven't had an actual job since I was 17.

That doesn't mean give up on independence.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Can relate to much of this. Being a sand nigger I've got no realistic chance of ascension. My future and career prospects are looking bleak, so I couldn't betabux even if I wanted to. Also got bad eyesight and my teeth are in bad shape, really don't want to live much longer.

The worst shit is my eyesight, can't even walk around my own house without my glasses, otherwise it makes me feel sick.

That doesn't mean give up on independence.

I mean I guess not, idk I just have a lot of issues. Most teenagers are probably more competent and functional than me, and I just don't see a point to it all now. Tbh I'm not sure how I even got to this point jfl.

 

[FrothySolutions]

I mean I guess not, idk I just have a lot of issues. Most teenagers are probably more competent and functional than me, and I just don't see a point to it all now. Tbh I'm not sure how I even got to this point jfl.

You do have issues. But just because you can't read doesn't mean you don't learn. Even if you're an adult.

 

[spongysleight]

Hold out a couple more years and save. Then invest in realistic vr sex