Blackpill We operate at a "slave-morality" level and are shaking our fists at the wind quite foolishly.

[SuperMario64DS]

All of us, with our engrained social and cultural values growing up - probably in Islam, Christianity, Judaism, maybe Hinduism - have embraced fully a set of moral values and ideas that envelop "weakness." And this weakness we take pride in.

"Blessed are you who are poor,
for yours is the kingdom of God.
Blessed are you who hunger now,
for you will be satisfied.
Blessed are you who weep now,
for you will laugh.
Blessed are you when people hate you,
when they exclude you and insult you
and reject your name as evil,
because of the Son of Man.
Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their ancestors treated the prophets."


We embrace these values of weakness because deep down, we are all envious of power, prestige, endless sex, endless greed, endless money. We all crave it, and we hate that those who have it that are able to attain it, in a way we never will.

From Nietzsche's "On the Genealogy of Morals":

"The reader will have already surmised with what ease the priestly mode of valuation can branch off from the knightly aristocratic mode, and then develop into the very antithesis of the latter: special impetus is given to this opposition, by every occasion when the castes of the priests and warriors confront each other with mutual jealousy and cannot agree over the prize. The knightly-aristocratic "values" are based on a careful cult of the physical, on a flowering, rich, and even effervescing healthiness, that goes considerably beyond what is necessary for maintaining life, on war, adventure, the chase, the dance, the tourney—on everything, in fact, which is contained in strong, free, and joyous action. The priestly-aristocratic mode of valuation is—we have seen—based on other hypotheses: it is bad enough for this class when it is a question of war! Yet the priests are, as is notorious, the worst enemies—why? Because they are the weakest. Their weakness causes their hate to expand into a monstrous and sinister shape, a shape which is most crafty and most poisonous. The really great haters in the history of the world have always been priests, who are also the cleverest haters—in comparison with the cleverness of priestly revenge, every other piece of cleverness is practically negligible. Human history would be too fatuous for anything were it not for the cleverness imported into it by the weak—take at once the most important instance."


It is in our inherent human nature, written on our biology to dominate, to have as much sex and validation as possible, to eat food that makes us feel good, to secure as much as resources as possible. And we will never get this power because of our biology.

So we constantly yell at, scream at the sluts, the STD-filled dog who humps everything in sight, the junkies, the corporate pig, the retarded jock - but they, because of who they are, are inherently "good." They are "good" because they have the adventure, the war, life, the dance, the tourney, from strength, from freedom, whereas we will never be "good." We are inherently "evil" because we are ugly, because we are weak, because we are poor, because we are pathetic. Nothing changes the fact that they get away with everything - nothing changes the fact they will go on to live successful lives. Why? Because they are "good," and we are "bad," and nature herself hates us and wants us dead because of how ugly, bad, and evil we are.


All the pagan religions in Europe and the Middle East, before the onset of Judaism and it's offspring (Christianity and Islam), placed huge value on these naturally "good," "animalistic" values.

Just look at Greek mythology! Sex itself was made a goddess (Aphrodite). Partying, orgies, drunkenness was made a god (Pan). War itself was made a god (Mars). Uncontrolled Lust was made a god (Cupid). The leader of the gods wielded the power of lightning and constantly cheated on his wife, even turning into animals to fuck women (Zeus). The god of wisdom tried raping a young, presumably teenage girl (The rape of Daphne).

These were all worshipped! And similar gods and similar stories are all around the Near East and Europe in their respective pagan religions.

To quote Nietzsche:

"All the world's efforts against the "aristocrats," the "mighty," the "masters," the "holders of power," are negligible by comparison with what has been accomplished against those classes by the Jews—the Jews, that priestly nation which eventually realised that the one method of effecting satisfaction on its enemies and tyrants was by means of a radical transvaluation of values, which was at the same time an act of the cleverest revenge. Yet the method was only appropriate to a nation of priests, to a nation of the most jealously nursed priestly revengefulness. It was the Jews who, in opposition to the aristocratic equation (good = aristocratic = beautiful = happy = loved by the gods), dared with a terrifying logic to suggest the contrary equation, and indeed to maintain with the teeth of the most profound hatred (the hatred of weakness) this contrary equation, namely, "the wretched are alone the good; the poor, the weak, the lowly, are alone the good; the suffering, the needy, the sick, the loathsome, are the only ones who are pious, the only ones who are blessed, for them alone is salvation—but you, on the other hand, you aristocrats, you men of power, you are to all eternity the evil, the horrible, the covetous, the insatiate, the godless; eternally also shall you be the unblessed, the cursed, the damned!" "


So why are we angry at "good" people? The gods (nature herself) want us dead, and they are the ones that have determined our fates as "ugly," "evil," "disgusting," "repulsive."


There's no point in embracing "Judeo-Christian" values. It is vanity, vanity of the highest order, PRIDE of the highest order, to believe that we can overcome our biological immitations for some "higher good" like "justice, humility, weakness, poverty of spirit, loving our neighbors."

Our biology is written, and no amount of resisting our biology will allow us to overcome our biology.

 

[Fat Link]

Yeah.

The Jews were able to destroy the Roman Empire and subjugate the white race with their subversive Christ cult which they created to control the white goyim and later destroy him.

The cult exists now but in mutated form among the SJW’s and related antifa libtards who falsely believe they are atheists but functionally prove to be otherwise as leftwards have their own saints just like the Christians.

For example they’ve got Trayvon, Mike Brown and just recently now George Floyd was added to the list and also like their Christian counterparts they have an object of worship but instead of that being the suffering down trodden Jesus, theirs is that of the suffering downtrodden nigger archetype.

Christ insanity is simply Communism 1.0.

Everyone here interested in this subject should read the book “Bolshevism From Moses To Lenin” which if memory serves correct was based on a conversation between Hitler and Dietrich Echhart.

David Lane's Pyramid Prophecy and Various Written works Written "Rev History"

Also the writings of the late David Lane author of the famous “14 Words” are very enlightening on this subject.

 

[SuperMario64DS]

Yeah.

The Jews were able to destroy the Roman Empire and subjugate the white race with their subversive Christ cult which they created to control the white goyim and later destroy him.

Christ insanity is simply Communism 1.0.

Everyone here interested in this subject should read the book “Bolshevism From Moses To Lenin” which if memory serves correct was based on a conversation between Hitler and Dietrich Echhart.

For anybody who has read any of Hitler's works, speeches, or discussions (I'm not a Nazi but I have read some of these), Nietzsche was Hitler's favorite philosopher.

And even though I'm agnostic, no, Hitler was not a "Christian" by any stretch of the imagination. He hated it, but he ESPECIALLY hated Protestantism because it was more ascetic (puritan) than Catholicism.

He respected Christianity's contribution to the development of German culture, but that's where the line ended.

 

[Deleted member 23981]

islam is the only based religon, even hitler himself knew christanity is cucked, islam is much better

 

[SuperMario64DS]

islam is the only based religon, even hitler himself knew christanity is cucked, islam is much better

Islam suffers from the same problems as Judaism, which is at the root of both Christianity and Islam. In Islam, humility, poverty, purity, asceticism, fasting are seen as virtues in complete contradiction to the biological reality of the human species which seeks to dominate, seeks to plunder, seeks to have sex, seeks to eat. Those who can't do the latter do the former out of jealousy from weakness, and those who can choose do the latter do it without caring about the former.

The "Judeo-Christian" roots of Islam can be seen out of the externals of Islam; praying 7 times a day like the Christian Book of Hours, prostrating like in Eastern / Oriental Orthodoxy, "liturgical chant" like in Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy; circumcision and bans on alcohol and pork like in Judaism; the iconoclasm of Judaism; the same old Old Testament stories like Abraham, Jonah, Moses, Noah, Adam and Eve, and Jesus Himself.

Why is it that the rich and the educated tend to be godless? Because those are able to achieve power from inherent biology, strength, and power do so.

 

[Fat Link]

Agreed SM64DS.

That said many low IQ WN’s out there simply cannot understand that when Hitler spoke in a positive sense about Christ insanity in his speeches that this is what is commonly known as “political pandering” and has ZERO merit to offer as for what he really felt about the Jew cult.

When Hitler did that he was basically doing the same song and dance routine for his public that ZOG puppets of the United States have been doing all this time which is “appealing to the masses and or the base”.

No high IQ person actually believes George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton or Donald Trump believes Christ insanity is true.

Its just political pandering ie kissing the asses of all the bumpkins that really do believe in it that are out there and unfortunately are allowed to vote.

 

[Deleted member 24160]

So would you say society shouldn't exist? Because if the natural state of things is a bunch of lazy pretty people getting everything off the backs of millions of slave doesn't sound sustainable.

 

[Deleted member 23981]

Islam suffers from the same problems as Judaism, which is at the root of both Christianity and Islam. In Islam, humility, poverty, purity, asceticism, fasting are seen as virtues in complete contradiction to the biological reality of the human species which seeks to dominate, seeks to plunder, seeks to have sex, seeks to eat. Those who can't do the latter do the former out of jealousy from weakness, and those who can choose do the latter do it without caring about the former.

The "Judeo-Christian" roots of Islam can be seen out of the externals of Islam; praying 7 times a day like the Christian Book of Hours, prostrating like in Eastern / Oriental Orthodoxy, "liturgical chant" like in Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy; circumcision and bans on alcohol and pork like in Judaism; the iconoclasm of Judaism; the same old Old Testament stories like Abraham, Jonah, Moses, Noah, Adam and Eve, and Jesus Himself.

Why is it that the rich and the educated tend to be godless? Because those are able to achieve power from inherent biology, strength, and power do so.

the only reason I like it is cos of u can beat ur wife and enforced monogamy

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Why is it that the rich and the educated tend to be godless?

The rich and educated are initiates into the cult of progress, and much like Christians view their coming deaths with positive anticipation, the affluent and aspirational view the deaths of their traditions and nationalities with glee, and think it heralds a better world to come.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

The Jews were able to destroy the Roman Empire and subjugate the white race with their subversive Christ cult which they created to control the white goyim and later destroy him.

 

[krauser]

Which is exactly why as soon as an incel gets a gf, they are never seen here again.

Would you come to this site if you got invited to parties and orgies?

Most of us (Esp those who are NEETing) are guilty of all 7 deadly sins

Lust Envy and Greed are self explanatory.
Wrath - all the ER worship
NEETing - sloth
Pride - our pride in some fake moral superiority over chads and roasties. Trust me, 99.99% of them couldn't care less, and if you could join them, you would abandon your morals too so it's all stuff we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better.
Gluttony - obsession with sex and with wanting to control others' sexuality

 

[SuperMario64DS]

the only reason I like it is cos of u can beat ur wife and enforced monogamy

The "only reason" you like it is because there are still Islamic, religious cultures and states that can enforce it. As soon as the "international clique" dismantles them (which they will at some point, we are already seeing Saudi Arabia and Iran "progress"), Islam will become just as cucked as mainstream Christianity and Judaism. Some forms of Islam are already cucked with female Imams teaching LGBT to kids.

The Byzantine Empire with the Justinian Code, and some Catholic states such as the Kingdom of Spain during the 15th-16th century, would put contemporary Islamic countries to shame with how strict they were.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Perhaps we can't fully overcome our nature, however it's obviously possible to keep our nature in check. Monogamy is a perfect example, it contradicts our biology, and yet it's adoption allowed for a much more stable society. So not all of the values being denounced are worthless.

Sure murder, rape, and the desire to dominate might be natural impulses, but this doesn't tell us anything about whether or not any of it should be done. Tbh I look at nature, along with with biology as a whole, and find it to be pretty irredeemable. I guess what I'm saying is that, while I suppose I agree that resistance against all of this is ultimately futile, I think that's just more evidence that we are creatures who'd be better off never having having existed, along with everything else alive.

 

[DirtyCurryCell]

All of us, with our engrained social and cultural values growing up - probably in Islam, Christianity, Judaism, maybe Hinduism - have embraced fully a set of moral values and ideas that envelop "weakness." And this weakness we take pride in.

"Blessed are you who are poor,
for yours is the kingdom of God.
Blessed are you who hunger now,
for you will be satisfied.
Blessed are you who weep now,
for you will laugh.
Blessed are you when people hate you,
when they exclude you and insult you
and reject your name as evil,
because of the Son of Man.
Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their ancestors treated the prophets."


We embrace these values of weakness because deep down, we are all envious of power, prestige, endless sex, endless greed, endless money. We all crave it, and we hate that those who have it that are able to attain it, in a way we never will.

From Nietzsche's "On the Genealogy of Morals":

"The reader will have already surmised with what ease the priestly mode of valuation can branch off from the knightly aristocratic mode, and then develop into the very antithesis of the latter: special impetus is given to this opposition, by every occasion when the castes of the priests and warriors confront each other with mutual jealousy and cannot agree over the prize. The knightly-aristocratic "values" are based on a careful cult of the physical, on a flowering, rich, and even effervescing healthiness, that goes considerably beyond what is necessary for maintaining life, on war, adventure, the chase, the dance, the tourney—on everything, in fact, which is contained in strong, free, and joyous action. The priestly-aristocratic mode of valuation is—we have seen—based on other hypotheses: it is bad enough for this class when it is a question of war! Yet the priests are, as is notorious, the worst enemies—why? Because they are the weakest. Their weakness causes their hate to expand into a monstrous and sinister shape, a shape which is most crafty and most poisonous. The really great haters in the history of the world have always been priests, who are also the cleverest haters—in comparison with the cleverness of priestly revenge, every other piece of cleverness is practically negligible. Human history would be too fatuous for anything were it not for the cleverness imported into it by the weak—take at once the most important instance."


It is in our inherent human nature, written on our biology to dominate, to have as much sex and validation as possible, to eat food that makes us feel good, to secure as much as resources as possible. And we will never get this power because of our biology.

So we constantly yell at, scream at the sluts, the STD-filled dog who humps everything in sight, the junkies, the corporate pig, the retarded jock - but they, because of who they are, are inherently "good." They are "good" because they have the adventure, the war, life, the dance, the tourney, from strength, from freedom, whereas we will never be "good." We are inherently "evil" because we are ugly, because we are weak, because we are poor, because we are pathetic. Nothing changes the fact that they get away with everything - nothing changes the fact they will go on to live successful lives. Why? Because they are "good," and we are "bad," and nature herself hates us and wants us dead because of how ugly, bad, and evil we are.


All the pagan religions in Europe and the Middle East, before the onset of Judaism and it's offspring (Christianity and Islam), placed huge value on these naturally "good," "animalistic" values.

Just look at Greek mythology! Sex itself was made a goddess (Aphrodite). Partying, orgies, drunkenness was made a god (Pan). War itself was made a god (Mars). Uncontrolled Lust was made a god (Cupid). The leader of the gods wielded the power of lightning and constantly cheated on his wife, even turning into animals to fuck women (Zeus). The god of wisdom tried raping a young, presumably teenage girl (The rape of Daphne).

These were all worshipped! And similar gods and similar stories are all around the Near East and Europe in their respective pagan religions.

To quote Nietzsche:

"All the world's efforts against the "aristocrats," the "mighty," the "masters," the "holders of power," are negligible by comparison with what has been accomplished against those classes by the Jews—the Jews, that priestly nation which eventually realised that the one method of effecting satisfaction on its enemies and tyrants was by means of a radical transvaluation of values, which was at the same time an act of the cleverest revenge. Yet the method was only appropriate to a nation of priests, to a nation of the most jealously nursed priestly revengefulness. It was the Jews who, in opposition to the aristocratic equation (good = aristocratic = beautiful = happy = loved by the gods), dared with a terrifying logic to suggest the contrary equation, and indeed to maintain with the teeth of the most profound hatred (the hatred of weakness) this contrary equation, namely, "the wretched are alone the good; the poor, the weak, the lowly, are alone the good; the suffering, the needy, the sick, the loathsome, are the only ones who are pious, the only ones who are blessed, for them alone is salvation—but you, on the other hand, you aristocrats, you men of power, you are to all eternity the evil, the horrible, the covetous, the insatiate, the godless; eternally also shall you be the unblessed, the cursed, the damned!" "


So why are we angry at "good" people? The gods (nature herself) want us dead, and they are the ones that have determined our fates as "ugly," "evil," "disgusting," "repulsive."


There's no point in embracing "Judeo-Christian" values. It is vanity, vanity of the highest order, PRIDE of the highest order, to believe that we can overcome our biological immitations for some "higher good" like "justice, humility, weakness, poverty of spirit, loving our neighbors."

Our biology is written, and no amount of resisting our biology will allow us to overcome our biology.

Yes.

And from a Nietzchean perspective, going ER is the only form goodness we can achieve. And roping is the only form of goodness we can achieve within slave morality.

Also, Hinduism is technically pagan, but was reformed with the advent of Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and the rest, they're South Asias version of abrahamic monotheism because they introduced slave morality to SA. So now Hinduism in this weird syncretic middle ground.

 

[Deleted member 23981]

The "only reason" you like it is because there are still Islamic, religious cultures and states that can enforce it. As soon as the "international clique" dismantles them (which they will at some point, we are already seeing Saudi Arabia and Iran "progress"), Islam will become just as cucked as mainstream Christianity and Judaism. Some forms of Islam are already cucked with female Imams teaching LGBT to kids.

The Byzantine Empire with the Justinian Code, and some Catholic states such as the Kingdom of Spain during the 15th-16th century, would put contemporary Islamic countries to shame with how strict they were.

yeah there already allowing women to drive in saudi cos of cucked westerners, but i guess i agree with your morals aare stupid, there should be laws only because u dont want those to happen to you i.e dont murder because it's immoral but dont murder because you dont want to be murdered

 

[SuperMario64DS]

The cult exists now but in mutated form among the SJW’s and related antifa libtards who falsely believe they are atheists but functionally prove to be otherwise as leftwards have their own saints just like the Christians.

For example they’ve got Trayvon, Mike Brown and just recently now George Floyd was added to the list and also like their Christian counterparts they have an object of worship but instead of that being the suffering down trodden Jesus, theirs is that of the suffering downtrodden nigger archetype.

Christ insanity is simply Communism 1.0.

Yes, absolutely.

I would like to point out to you as well that Soviet communism did the same thing.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RICJ3LftE2E

Just like how the Soviet Union destroyed and subverted religion, burned down Churches (Christianity subverted pagan religions and destroyed their temples), created it's own iconography, defined it's own heresy, and had its own Saints and object of worship, the same thing is happening with contemporary leftism, although perhaps in a more subversive and less revolutionary fashion.

Is it any wonder why political commentators who aren't batshit insane have drawn the parallels between religious zealouts and contemporary far left movements? Drawn up parallels between the Puritans and the far left with "virtue signaling", comparing the blue checkmark to Frollo? Is it any wonder that they are subverting religious groups and destroying their very foundations? Is it any wonder they are censoring their own heresy?

All in a vain effort to prove the falsehood that all men are somehow equal through totalitarian means, when biology has decreed clearly that they aren't.

Which is exactly why as soon as an incel gets a gf, they are never seen here again.

Would you come to this site if you got invited to parties and orgies?

Most of us (Esp those who are NEETing) are guilty of all 7 deadly sins

Exactly - if any of us had the ability to gain power, money, sex, or social desirability, we would not be shaking our fists on an online forum with our fellow angry virgins out of spite; we would take that power and use it.

 

[Fat Link]

Great follow up post SM64DS.

Also this article by the Jew Marcus Eli Ravage is also quite telling and so I shall post it here for you and the rest of our fellow "goyim" to see and come to understand the implications of his message for themselves.

I've colorized, underlined and bolded perhaps the most pertinent parts.

A Real Case Against The Jews

The following is an article written by an American Jew in 1928 : by Marcus Eli Ravage, reprinted from The Century Magazine January 1928


Of course, you do resent us. It is no good telling me you don't. So let us not waste any time on denials and alibis. You know you do, and I know it, and we understand each other. To be sure, some of your best friends are Jews, and all that. I have heard that before once or twice, I think. And I know too, that you do not include me personally - "me" being any particular individual Jew - when you fling out at us in your wholesale fashion, because I am, well, so different, don't you know, almost as good as one of yourselves. That little exemption does not, somehow, move me to gratitude; but never mind that now. It is the aggressive, climbing, pushing, materialistic sort you dislike - those, in a world, who remind you so much of your own up-and-coming brethren. We understand each other perfectly. I don't hold it against you.

Bless my soul, I do not blame anybody for disliking anybody. The thing that intrigues me about this anti-Jewish business, as you play at it, you make such fantastic and transparent excuses, you seem to be suffering from self-consciousness so horribly, that if the performance were not so grotesque it would be irritating.

It is not as if you were amateurs : you have been at it for over fifteen centuries. Yet watching you and hearing your childish pretexts, one might get the impression that you did not know yourselves what it is all about. You resent us, but you cannot clearly say why. You think up a new excuse - a "reason" is what you call it - every other day. You have been piling up justification for yourself these many hundreds of years and each new invention is more laughable than the last and each new excuse contradicts and annihilates the last.

Not so many years ago I used to hear that we were money-grubbers and commercial materialists; now the complaint is being whispered around that no art and no profession is safe against Jewish invasion. We are, if you are to be believed, at once clannish and exclusive, and unassimilable because we won't intermarry with you, and we are also climbers and pushers and a menace to your racial integrity.

Our standard of living is so low that we create your slums and sweat industries, and so high that we crowd you out of your best residential sections. We shirk our patriotic duty in wartime because we are pacifists by nature and tradition, and we are the arch-plotters of universal wars and the chief beneficiaries of those wars (see "The protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion".)

We are at once the founders and leading adherents of capitalism and the chief perpetrators of the rebellion against capitalism. Surely, history has nothing like us for versatility ! And oh ! I almost forgot the reasons of reasons. We are the stiff-necked people who never accepted Christianity, and we are the criminal people who crucified its founder.

But I tell you, you are self-deceivers. You lack either the self-knowledge or the mettle to face the facts squarely and own up to the truth. You resent the Jew not because, as some of you seem to think, we crucified Jesus but because we gave him birth. Your real quarrel with us is not that we have rejected Christianity but that we have imposed it upon you !
Your loose, contradictory charges against us are not a patch on the blackness of our proved historic offence. You accuse us of stirring up revolution in Moscow. Suppose we admit the charge. What of it ? Compared with what Paul the Jew of Tarsus accomplished in Rome, the Russian upheavals a mere street brawl.

You make much noise and fury about the undue Jewish influence in your theatres and movie palaces. Very good; granted your complaint is well-founded. But what is that compared to our staggering influence in your churches, your schools, your laws and your governments, and the very thoughts you think every day ?

A clumsy Russian forges a set of papers and publishes them in a book called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" which shows that we plotted to bring on the late World War. You believe that book. All right. For the sake of argument, we will underwrite every word of it. It is genuine and authentic. But what is that besides the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we have carried out, which we never have denied because you never had the courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for anybody to read ?

If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about ? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners, and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels ?

You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest Great War but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of nearly every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long, we shall go on doing it.

Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, care-free pagan race. You worshipped countless Gods and Goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of the social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.

But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the world, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to unexplored ends of the earth.

Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our Kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricable woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.

Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.

How did we do it ? Almost by accident. Nearly two thousand years ago in far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism. Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests grew fat. Then a young patriot- idealist arose and went about the land calling for a revival of the faith. He had no thought of setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove the money- changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities , who were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time. The followers of Jesus of Nazereth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifists non-resisters, sharing their memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.

Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non- resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.

This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of the pagan Roman learning than Luther armed with our Gospel arose to down you and re-enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in modern times - the French, the American, and the Russian. What are they but the triumphs of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice ?

And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess us. Again and again the Puritan heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws and national prohibition acts. And while these things are happening you twaddle about Jewish influence in the movies.

Is it any wonder you resent us ? We have put a clog upon your progress. We have imposed upon you an alien book and an alien faith which you cannot digest, which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which keeps you everlasting ill-at-ease, and which you lack the spirit to either reject or accept in full.

In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your hearts you still are pagans. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your social conscience, in spite of all democracy and all your social revolution, is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul, confused your impulses and paralysed your desires. In the midst of the battle you are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek, who said "Resist not evil" and "Blessed are the peace-makers". In your lust for gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday school days about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the Lord. And you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.

So why should you not resent us ? If we were in your place we should probably dislike you more cordially than you do us. But we should make no bones about telling you why. We should not resort to subterfuges and transparent pretext. With millions of painfully respectable Jewish shopkeepers all about us we should not insult your intelligence and your own honesty by talking about communism as a Jewish philosophy. And with millions hard-working impecunious Jewish peddlers and labourers we should make ourselves ridiculous by talking about international capitalism as a Jewish monopoly. No we should go straight to the point. We should contemplate this confused ineffectual muddle which we call civilization, this half- Christian half-pagan medley, and - we should say to you point- blank : "For this mess thanks to you, to your prophets, and your Bible."

["A Real Case Against the Jews", Marcus Eli Ravage, The Century Magazine, January 1928, Vol. 115, No. 3 pp. 346-350]

 

[SuperMario64DS]

I guess what I'm saying is that, while I suppose I agree that resistance against all of this is ultimately futile, I think that's just more evidence that we are creatures who'd be better off never having having existed, along with everything else alive.

Yeah.

Monogamy is a perfect example, it contradicts our biology, and yet it's adoption allowed for a much more stable society.

Does it, though? Does it lead to a more stable society?

Sure murder, rape, and the desire to dominate might be natural impulses, but this doesn't tell us anything about whether or not any of it should be done.

Sure, but two things.

1. You would have to prove that disobeying our impulses is immoral.
2. The only reason one faces consequences for these impulses is, ultimately, either because of biological inferiority or social class inferiority, or because there is someone who holds dominance over you - i.e., the state.

So would you say society shouldn't exist? Because if the natural state of things is a bunch of lazy pretty people getting everything off the backs of millions of slave doesn't sound sustainable.

I'm not saying one thing or the other in terms of social functionality, what I am saying is that what we pride our morals and values on in condemning the used up holes and the undryable AIDS infected cocks is vanity because we are weak and pathetic.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Does it, though? Does it lead to a more stable society?

Well polygamy results in a lot of lonely dissatisfied men, who ultimately have no real reason to see society upheld. But it's a complex issue. I suppose if people like us were removed from the mating equation in some way, then that could be another solution to societal instability. But how do you accomplish this without generating more instability? Placating us with copes might work, just look at Japan. So I would say that monogamy might lead to a more stable society, but it's not the only solution.

1. You would have to prove that disobeying our impulses is immoral.

Nobody can do that, one person's perspective alone isn't enough, because no individual's morality is truly objective. Of course my perspective is the opposite, in that obeying our impulses usually leads to immoral behavior, but that's irrelevant to your point. Maybe I could argue that my subjective morality is correct, but I lack the capacity to truly prove it.

I would say that obeying an impulse to physically torture would lead to a bad outcome for the object of this impulse, as the most obvious and extreme example. But there are multiple problems here. Most of our impulses aren't so easily resisted, attempting to resist them potentially leads to an equally bad outcome for the individual in question (kill an animal or starve to death yourself being the most obvious), and if we leave the manner of execution aside for the sake of argument, it's difficult to determine if killing actually leads to an increase in negative value overall. Perhaps it usually does in the case of humans, because even though I believe that death isn't necessarily bad for an individual in and of itself, the death of one person impacts everyone around them, and obviously the manner of death would almost always be bad.

So even if I can say that suffering is bad, that pleasure is not really worth the cost in negative utility that it causes to others(also usually to yourself), even if I argued that anyone could realize this eventually through enough exposure to suffering themselves, and at least the potential is theoretically there to get everyone to agree by consensus, this is still not objective morality. None of it matters anyway, since none of this will happen. But just for the sake of argument, how many people do you think could kill themselves if they were totally convinced that maintaining their existence requires immoral behavior, and that their own lives were not worth living overall? I'd say a tiny minority, because as pointed out in your OP, we're largely slaves to our impulses.

I think that it's within my best interest to not exist, yet I'm still incapable of killing myself without a very pressing reason to do so. So I guess that from my perspective, life forces everyone to engage in immoral behavior to continue living. But the question is whether or not anybody can be held responsible for this? Are humans moral agents? Can an action be immoral even without anyone capable of being held responsible for it? I don't have the answers, and I believe that this is all an exercise in futility anyway.

2. The only reason one faces consequences for these impulses is, ultimately, either because of biological inferiority or social class inferiority, or because there is someone who holds dominance over you - i.e., the state.

Yeah, I think that's a given tbh. But of course you can also face a consequence for resisting an impulse, which in this case is imposed by nature rather than the state.

 

[SuperMario64DS]

But just for the sake of argument, how many people do you think could kill themselves if they were totally convinced that maintaining their existence requires immoral behavior, and that their own lives were not worth living overall? I'd say a tiny minority, because as pointed out in your OP, we're largely slaves to our impulses.

I think that it's within my best interest to not exist, yet I'm still incapable of killing myself without a very pressing reason to do so. So I guess that from my perspective, life forces everyone to engage in immoral behavior to continue living. But the question is whether or not anybody can be held responsible for this? Are humans moral agents? Can an action be immoral even without anyone capable of being held responsible for it? I don't have the answers, and I believe that this is all an exercise in futility anyway.

Yeah, I think that's a given tbh. But of course you can also face a consequence for resisting an impulse, which in this case is imposed by nature rather than the state.

I'll give a longer response later, but honestly what you are tapping the pulse on is one of the main reasons I'm agnostic. From a slave-morality standpoint, I am, in my essence, evil. I cannot live without being evil, even if I were to consciously be selfless and do everything morally correct with the correct intention at all times, things will arise where I will be put in a situation of moral greyness where there is no way to be sinless, which to me, makes the whole idea of Christ being one who can and never did sin (let alone his mother if we are going the Catholic route) hard to believe, especially in the context of our biology as it pertains to sex (what, did Christ resist every single look of lust that our brains subconsciously do without thinking about it)?

Admittedly this might be coming from a deep-rooted fear of rejection by others and I am interposing that fear onto God, but could you blame me? Jesus says if I look at a woman with lust, I commit adultery with her, and if my eye causes me to sin, it's better to pluck it out than have my whole body go to hell. It seems like it's incredibly likely to end up in hell and be rejected by God, considering that in my essence, I HAVE to sin, and that there cannot be an objective morality which I can follow at all places at all times.

If slave-morality is true and greater than this world with a higher God, in my opinion the Gnostics (actual Gnostics, not the "lmao Satanic orgy" Gnostics) were probably correct in their assertion that the material aspect of ourselves is inherently evil, and it isn't merely a "corrupted nature" where we can choose to not sin and we're condemned for the sins we do choose.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

If slave-morality is true and greater than this world with a higher God, it must be the case in my opinion that the Gnostics were correct in their assertion that our very material aspect of ourselves is inherently evil; not merely a "corrupted nature" where we can choose to not sin.

That's pretty much how I feel as well tbh, the reality of our existence forces us to be evil.

 

[Deleted member 6657]

Great follow up post SM64DS.

Also this article by the Jew Marcus Eli Ravage is also quite telling and so I shall post it here for you and the rest of our fellow "goyim" to see and come to understand the implications of his message for themselves.

I've colorized, underlined and bolded perhaps the most pertinent parts.

A Real Case Against The Jews

The following is an article written by an American Jew in 1928 : by Marcus Eli Ravage, reprinted from The Century Magazine January 1928


Of course, you do resent us. It is no good telling me you don't. So let us not waste any time on denials and alibis. You know you do, and I know it, and we understand each other. To be sure, some of your best friends are Jews, and all that. I have heard that before once or twice, I think. And I know too, that you do not include me personally - "me" being any particular individual Jew - when you fling out at us in your wholesale fashion, because I am, well, so different, don't you know, almost as good as one of yourselves. That little exemption does not, somehow, move me to gratitude; but never mind that now. It is the aggressive, climbing, pushing, materialistic sort you dislike - those, in a world, who remind you so much of your own up-and-coming brethren. We understand each other perfectly. I don't hold it against you.

Bless my soul, I do not blame anybody for disliking anybody. The thing that intrigues me about this anti-Jewish business, as you play at it, you make such fantastic and transparent excuses, you seem to be suffering from self-consciousness so horribly, that if the performance were not so grotesque it would be irritating.

It is not as if you were amateurs : you have been at it for over fifteen centuries. Yet watching you and hearing your childish pretexts, one might get the impression that you did not know yourselves what it is all about. You resent us, but you cannot clearly say why. You think up a new excuse - a "reason" is what you call it - every other day. You have been piling up justification for yourself these many hundreds of years and each new invention is more laughable than the last and each new excuse contradicts and annihilates the last.

Not so many years ago I used to hear that we were money-grubbers and commercial materialists; now the complaint is being whispered around that no art and no profession is safe against Jewish invasion. We are, if you are to be believed, at once clannish and exclusive, and unassimilable because we won't intermarry with you, and we are also climbers and pushers and a menace to your racial integrity.

Our standard of living is so low that we create your slums and sweat industries, and so high that we crowd you out of your best residential sections. We shirk our patriotic duty in wartime because we are pacifists by nature and tradition, and we are the arch-plotters of universal wars and the chief beneficiaries of those wars (see "The protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion".)

We are at once the founders and leading adherents of capitalism and the chief perpetrators of the rebellion against capitalism. Surely, history has nothing like us for versatility ! And oh ! I almost forgot the reasons of reasons. We are the stiff-necked people who never accepted Christianity, and we are the criminal people who crucified its founder.

But I tell you, you are self-deceivers. You lack either the self-knowledge or the mettle to face the facts squarely and own up to the truth. You resent the Jew not because, as some of you seem to think, we crucified Jesus but because we gave him birth. Your real quarrel with us is not that we have rejected Christianity but that we have imposed it upon you !
Your loose, contradictory charges against us are not a patch on the blackness of our proved historic offence. You accuse us of stirring up revolution in Moscow. Suppose we admit the charge. What of it ? Compared with what Paul the Jew of Tarsus accomplished in Rome, the Russian upheavals a mere street brawl.

You make much noise and fury about the undue Jewish influence in your theatres and movie palaces. Very good; granted your complaint is well-founded. But what is that compared to our staggering influence in your churches, your schools, your laws and your governments, and the very thoughts you think every day ?

A clumsy Russian forges a set of papers and publishes them in a book called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" which shows that we plotted to bring on the late World War. You believe that book. All right. For the sake of argument, we will underwrite every word of it. It is genuine and authentic. But what is that besides the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we have carried out, which we never have denied because you never had the courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for anybody to read ?

If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about ? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners, and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels ?

You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest Great War but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of nearly every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long, we shall go on doing it.

Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, care-free pagan race. You worshipped countless Gods and Goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of the social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.

But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the world, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to unexplored ends of the earth.

Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our Kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricable woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.

Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.

How did we do it ? Almost by accident. Nearly two thousand years ago in far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism. Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests grew fat. Then a young patriot- idealist arose and went about the land calling for a revival of the faith. He had no thought of setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove the money- changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities , who were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time. The followers of Jesus of Nazereth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifists non-resisters, sharing their memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.

Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non- resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.

This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of the pagan Roman learning than Luther armed with our Gospel arose to down you and re-enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in modern times - the French, the American, and the Russian. What are they but the triumphs of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice ?

And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess us. Again and again the Puritan heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws and national prohibition acts. And while these things are happening you twaddle about Jewish influence in the movies.

Is it any wonder you resent us ? We have put a clog upon your progress. We have imposed upon you an alien book and an alien faith which you cannot digest, which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which keeps you everlasting ill-at-ease, and which you lack the spirit to either reject or accept in full.

In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your hearts you still are pagans. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your social conscience, in spite of all democracy and all your social revolution, is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul, confused your impulses and paralysed your desires. In the midst of the battle you are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek, who said "Resist not evil" and "Blessed are the peace-makers". In your lust for gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday school days about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the Lord. And you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.

So why should you not resent us ? If we were in your place we should probably dislike you more cordially than you do us. But we should make no bones about telling you why. We should not resort to subterfuges and transparent pretext. With millions of painfully respectable Jewish shopkeepers all about us we should not insult your intelligence and your own honesty by talking about communism as a Jewish philosophy. And with millions hard-working impecunious Jewish peddlers and labourers we should make ourselves ridiculous by talking about international capitalism as a Jewish monopoly. No we should go straight to the point. We should contemplate this confused ineffectual muddle which we call civilization, this half- Christian half-pagan medley, and - we should say to you point- blank : "For this mess thanks to you, to your prophets, and your Bible."

["A Real Case Against the Jews", Marcus Eli Ravage, The Century Magazine, January 1928, Vol. 115, No. 3 pp. 346-350]

For making me read this worthless text, I now despise you. I should have known better than to read any of the writing of an Eli.

 

[DirtyCurryCell]

Which is exactly why as soon as an incel gets a gf, they are never seen here again.

Would you come to this site if you got invited to parties and orgies?

Most of us (Esp those who are NEETing) are guilty of all 7 deadly sins

Lust Envy and Greed are self explanatory.
Wrath - all the ER worship
NEETing - sloth
Pride - our pride in some fake moral superiority over chads and roasties. Trust me, 99.99% of them couldn't care less, and if you could join them, you would abandon your morals too so it's all stuff we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better.
Gluttony - obsession with sex and with wanting to control others' sexuality