RageFuel We need to have more discussions on the struggles of short cels

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I am a rich Jewish trucel and I am trucel Becuase I am ugly and 5’4. I do not understand why we tolerate 5’8+ “incels” jfl who probably are just larping and going back to their gfs at night. I am 20 and in a cucked university and have never had any interest from a foid in even a friendly way. All I have ever experienced was escorts. While this forum tolerates all kinds of fakecels and low tier normies. I propose we do height surveys every week to clean the forum of fake cels. Mods please don’t ban be just take down this thread if you disagree.

 

[Zer0/∞]

I am 5'4 too.
But I am Bangladeshi currycel.

 

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I am 5'4 too.

Brutal. I am sorry for your struggle brother

I am 5'4 too.
But I am Bangladeshi currycel.

Fucking brutal

 

[Overdosed]

By that logic we should ban richcels because several mentalcels have a difficult time moneymaxxing.

We need to understand the geographical context regarding incels' heights. Someone who's 175-177cm may be a slayer in China, would be incel in the Netherlands.
Although those who are over 183cm should be definitely banned as their height is universally desired by women.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I am a rich Jewish trucel and I am trucel Becuase I am ugly and 5’4. I do not understand why we tolerate 5’8+ “incels” jfl who probably are just larping and going back to their gfs at night. I am 20 and in a cucked university and have never had any interest from a foid in even a friendly way. All I have ever experienced was escorts. While this forum tolerates all kinds of fakecels and low tier normies. I propose we do height surveys every week to clean the forum of fake cels. Mods please don’t ban be just take down this thread if you disagree.

Nah bro, I’m also a somewhat rich kike. However, my face is just deformed. No height for your face.

 

[It all fell down]

I'm 5'3 blackcel in a non anglo country. It has been over for me since teenhood.
I would have roped myself If I had born in Europe, USA or so because 5'9 boys are considered manlets while in my country that's the average.

The best thing to do for people like us is escortmaxxing, Heightpill is by far the worst and if you are ethnic is a death sentence. I'm lean-fit, pretty face(yes, I had my matchs with mid tier Beckys on Tinder but things went nowhere after foids asked my height), NT and knowledgemaxxed. Even if I'm like it I have nothing to do toward a 5'9+ normie.

And yes, I ascended many times but with girls like this:

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All of them requested me "favors" like money for rent, food for their children and other shit like that but they have been giving children for chads and low tier normies. Some of them cut me off after I refused and other accepted a more fair deal(being low cost escorts). But Why have to pay for sex for 2/10 foids? Because of my height. I will never know what's the infamous teen love. I will never feel what's genuin love because of what I'm and not of what I can provide. My parents treated my dwarfness as a illness and yes is true. An illness that has been disabled me of true love for my entire life.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

No amount of height would help a disfigured face. There's not one concrete round to inceldom. There can be different factors but we end up at the same place.

Stop gatekeeping inceldom retard.

 

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No amount of height would help a disfigured face. There's not one concrete round to inceldom. There can be different factors but we end up at the same place.

Stop gatekeeping inceldom retard.

I’m not gatekeeping, i also have an ugly face. I’m talking about 5’8 guys with average faces

By that logic we should ban richcels because several mentalcels have a difficult time moneymaxxing.

We need to understand the geographical context regarding incels' heights. Someone who's 175-177cm may be a slayer in China, would be incel in the Netherlands.
Although those who are over 183cm should be definitely banned as their height is universally desired by women.

I’m not rich enough to leave my shithole yet

 

[NagarNikkucel]

I’m not gatekeeping, i also have an ugly face. I’m talking about 5’8 guys with average faces

Anyone who isn't short, isn't facially visibly deformed, has normal skin, and isn't balding shouldn't be an incel tbh.

 

[Emba]

Ok

 

[Ika-Sama]

 

[It all fell down]

No amount of height would help a disfigured face. There's not one concrete round to inceldom. There can be different factors but we end up at the same place.

Stop gatekeeping inceldom retard.

Heightpill is by long shot the worse. You can put all the incels in front a wall that foids will choice the tallest ones.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

Heightpill is by long shot the worse. You can put all the incels in front a wall that foids will choice the tallest ones.

I get cucked by men shorter than me because my face is disfigured by acne scarring. I'm the tallest person in my friend group.

I'd say face > height.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

More?

 

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I get cucked by men shorter than me because my face is disfigured by acne scarring. I'm the tallest person in my friend group.

I'd say face > height.

I know a really tall guy with a face deformity (extreme recessed jaw needing surgery) who had Becky gfs just who were attracted to his height(he was autistic af)

 

[NagarNikkucel]

Having a recessed jaw is different, having acne scarring is different.

Acne scarring is pure disgust and horrible.

I know a really tall guy with a face deformity (extreme recessed jaw needing surgery) who had Becky gfs just who were attracted to his height(he was autistic af)

 

[cucksaar]

Anyone who isn't short, isn't facially visibly deformed, has normal skin, and isn't balding shouldn't be an incel tbh.

What about autism though

 

[NagarNikkucel]

What about autism though

I have seen woman chasing after high tier normie autistic man, autism is a turn off, but not until it's extreme.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

I'm on the taller side but I have horrific disease that disfigured me and continues to do so. If you are tall, NT and healthy then you probably shouldn't be here.

 

[Deleted member 2059]

Having a recessed jaw is different, having acne scarring is different.

Acne scarring is pure disgust and horrible.

So true, it is more rare than other typical problems so it is never discussed here, but it is equally on par with the worst of facial deformities and manletism.
I have totally disfiguring cystic acne scarring also which easily drops me 4-5 pts.

What's worse is that treatments for it are totally bullshit, it is not a case of 'just get laser bro' 'just get rfm' 'subcision filler tca cross blah blah', all these treatments are totally worthless for severe cases like me.

 

[Deleted member 35725]

As is indicated by the data, once height drops lower than 175 cm, there is a massive SMV collapse, the likes of which tallfags can't even comprehend. Thus, 175 cm or 5'8 is the minimal threshold, and the "face > height" crowd are just average people who don't get what an overwhelming, brutal failo effect being shorter than that threshold is. I'm 171 cm (5'7), and I can tell you that wearing 2.8 inch elevator shoes dramatically increases my perceived SMV, from being invisible and treated with contempt to finally registering in people's minds as an actual human being. Every inch counts, indeed, and height > everything else.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

So true, it is more rare than other typical problems so it is never discussed here, but it is equally on par with the worst of facial deformities and manletism.
I have totally disfiguring cystic acne scarring also which easily drops me 4-5 pts.

What's worse is that treatments for it are totally bullshit, it is not a case of 'just get laser bro' 'just get rfm' 'subcision filler tca cross blah blah', all these treatments are totally worthless for severe cases like me.

Exactly!! There are surgeries available for recessed jaw, most of the stuff people complained about can be fixed by surgery, like recessed jaw, or bad chin, or a bad nose.

But once your face has pits and craters, that's it. Game over. Incel4life. The current treatments are absolute dog shit money grubbing fest. They're bunch of hyped up scams, and most retarded scar sufferers are totally ok w it and keep spending money on that shit.

I have too, but it's absolutely useless. Nothing can help you or I unless they figure out scarless skin regeneration that can help our dermis regenerate.

 

[Deleted member 2059]

Exactly!! There are surgeries available for recessed jaw, most of the stuff people complained about can be fixed by surgery, like recessed jaw, or bad chin, or a bad nose.

But once your face has pits and craters, that's it. Game over. Incel4life. The current treatments are absolute dog shit money grubbing fest. They're bunch of hyped up scams, and most retarded scar sufferers are totally ok w it and keep spending money on that shit.

I have too, but it's absolutely useless. Nothing can help you or I unless they figure out scarless skin regeneration that can help our dermis regenerate.

Have you found any treatments even a little effective? I'm going to get a fully ablative co2 laser done some time in the end of this year, if this doesn't work I give up as it's the most aggressive treatment. My scarring isn#t even that old, like less than 1 year old but it's totally brutal box car mainly

I think mild scarring is not too huge a failo on chad, but severe is a disaster and could make anyone an incel . I just would like to try to reduce my severe scarring to mild, I don't need complete regeneration , I have long accepted that I will always have subhuman skin, just want it too look less jarring and revolting to normeis.

Exactly!! There are surgeries available for recessed jaw, most of the stuff people complained about can be fixed by surgery, like recessed jaw, or bad chin, or a bad nose.

But once your face has pits and craters, that's it. Game over. Incel4life. The current treatments are absolute dog shit money grubbing fest. They're bunch of hyped up scams, and most retarded scar sufferers are totally ok w it and keep spending money on that shit.

I have too, but it's absolutely useless. Nothing can help you or I unless they figure out scarless skin regeneration that can help our dermis regenerate.

also, how close can we really be to scarless healing really, that sounds a bit sci fi. Even if they can do it in pigs and mice, its gna be fucking years of human trials and more trials, getting it approved, and when it finally is released, its going to be only allowed in extreme burns/damage to kids situations and not ''''cosmetic'''' acne scarring, and when it finally DOES become available for us (in 20-30years), it's gna be so unbelievably expensive. Sounds like a pipe dream.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

Have you found any treatments even a little effective? I'm going to get a fully ablative co2 laser done some time in the end of this year, if this doesn't work I give up as it's the most aggressive treatment. My scarring isn#t even that old, like less than 1 year old but it's totally brutal box car mainly

I think mild scarring is not too huge a failo on chad, but severe is a disaster and could make anyone an incel . I just would like to try to reduce my severe scarring to mild, I don't need complete regeneration , I have long accepted that I will always have subhuman skin, just want it too look less jarring and revolting to normeis.

also, how close can we really be to scarless healing really, that sounds a bit sci fi. Even if they can do it in pigs and mice, its gna be fucking years of human trials and more trials, getting it approved, and when it finally is released, its going to be only allowed in extreme burns/damage to kids situations and not ''''cosmetic'''' acne scarring, and when it finally DOES become available for us (in 20-30years), it's gna be so unbelievably expensive. Sounds like a pipe dream.

Honestly, none of them are effective long term really.

They rely on raising the scar by boosting collagen by damaging the skin in a controlled manner. I've dropped about 10k so far and anyone can still tell me that my skin is scarred badly.

The thing is, collagen will start dropping when you're old, and the scars will surface back. I've seen 45+ y/o people get depressed about their acne scars since they look worse than ever. There's no escaping this shit unless regeneration arrives, and you're right, skin regeneration is somewhat long time away, but once it's achieved I don't think they will only keep it for burn issues, because aesthetic market is insanely big, and it would fetch them insane amount of money.

 

[nambog]

Man I only stood at ~ 5'11" (2 inch lifts and shoes, 5'9" real height) today when I went out and I didn't see many people taller than me, and I was only a short distance from London. Normally I'm getting mogged to hell and back, but I saw a lot of dudes shorter than me with girls, even a lot of black dudes. Fuck, there was one part of this mall where BM/WW couples were flowing out like a fucking conveyer belt. And most were shorter than me. Take in mind I had an otoplasty today and was searching for a headband. That really stuck it to me that my main problem is face, like a really, really fucked up face.

 

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Man I only stood at ~ 5'11" (2 inch lifts and shoes, 5'9" real height) today when I went out and I didn't see many people taller than me, and I was only a short distance from London. Normally I'm getting mogged to hell and back, but I saw a lot of dudes shorter than me with girls, even a lot of black dudes. Fuck, there was one part of this mall where BM/WW couples were flowing out like a fucking conveyer belt. And most were shorter than me. Take in mind I had an otoplasty today and was searching for a headband. That really stuck it to me that my main problem is face, like a really, really fucked up face.

Fuck you im 5’4

 

[nambog]

Fuck you im 5’4

Look I know I'll get shit for saying this and believe me, I know how bad it is being short, but I did see dudes around that height walking with girls today.

HOWEVER, the average couple I see is the guy being 5'11"+, and him 6 inches taller than the girl.

 

[svgmn1]

I have to agree with the title, manlets are truecels and disserve more light shedding on them

 

[Deleted member 2059]

Honestly, none of them are effective long term really.

They rely on raising the scar by boosting collagen by damaging the skin in a controlled manner. I've dropped about 10k so far and anyone can still tell me that my skin is scarred badly.

The thing is, collagen will start dropping when you're old, and the scars will surface back. I've seen 45+ y/o people get depressed about their acne scars since they look worse than ever. There's no escaping this shit unless regeneration arrives, and you're right, skin regeneration is somewhat long time away, but once it's achieved I don't think they will only keep it for burn issues, because aesthetic market is insanely big, and it would fetch them insane amount of money.

Im curious, how much of a failo is this scarring for this chad/chadlite, according to reddit post, it made him incel, but to me he still looks decent, and women in comments still calling him handsome, same for another guy I recently saw with scarring

 

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Look I know I'll get shit for saying this and believe me, I know how bad it is being short, but I did see dudes around that height walking with girls today.

HOWEVER, the average couple I see is the guy being 5'11"+, and him 6 inches taller than the girl.

Landwhales or normal looking girls? I almost never see that and I go to a uni with 14,000 students and lots of incels so I have to pay 500-600 for escorts which is bullshit

 

[NagarNikkucel]

Im curious, how much of a failo is this scarring for this chad/chadlite, according to reddit post, it made him incel, but to me he still looks decent, and women in comments still calling him handsome, same for another guy I recently saw with scarring

It definitely diminished his PSL a lot. He's not where he's supposed to be.

Imagine the best looking guy you can think of. Maybe Sean O pry or Gandy, and give him acne scarring. Their PSL drops insanely. Scarring, especially from acne is just absolutely gross in general bro. That guys scarring is just moderate at best. There's more hyperpigmentation but less pits. So yes, tbh he will suffer securing a relationship.

Perfect clean skin is so insanely underrated.

I hope I die soon.

 

[Deleted member 2059]

It definitely diminished his PSL a lot. He's not where he's supposed to be.

Imagine the best looking guy you can think of. Maybe Sean O pry or Gandy, and give him acne scarring. Their PSL drops insanely. Scarring, especially from acne is just absolutely gross in general bro. That guys scarring is just moderate at best. There's more hyperpigmentation but less pits. So yes, tbh he will suffer securing a relationship.

Perfect clean skin is so insanely underrated.

I hope I die soon.

I understand, it really is a shame this happened to us, idk about you but without my brutal scarring I wouldn't be an incel. btw I saw from your acne.org which I am a lurker on for years postings tht you are willing to Guinea pig yourself with this experimental scar healing drug, so... would you do the excisions on yourself as well?!? that seems like it could go very wrong bro, (and be very painful) I hpe you are prepared to make your scarring 10x worse if that fails. If it works please let us know. I would be tempted if i was as convinced of the efficacy, but the consequences seem dire.

 

[InefficientMarkets]

Fuck you im 5’4

Must be horrible man. I don't want to even imagine.

I'm 5'8 and my life is hell already.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

I understand, it really is a shame this happened to us, idk about you but without my brutal scarring I wouldn't be an incel. btw I saw from your acne.org which I am a lurker on for years postings tht you are willing to Guinea pig yourself with this experimental scar healing drug, so... would you do the excisions on yourself as well?!? that seems like it could go very wrong bro, (and be very painful) I hpe you are prepared to make your scarring 10x worse if that fails. If it works please let us know. I would be tempted if i was as convinced of the efficacy, but the consequences seem dire.

Haha well yes that's me, I'm trying to keep myself updated on scarless regeneration. (I think it should happen this decade). Anyway, yes it's the same for me. My brutal scarring has made me incel tier. I think I'd be an HTN without it. How old are you btw? You think if scarless regeneration becomes a reality in few years you'd be able to lead a normal life or it's too late? I'm almost 22.

Anyway, I understand about using verteporfin but Im not going to excise my existing facial scar for it yet, all I need to do is test it's efficacy which I can do by maybe cutting my arm slightly deep and using it and seeing if my arm heals scarlessly. If it does, some doctor should be willing to use it off label I hope. Waiting for its research paper to be published anxiously.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

Ok

 

[BigMorons]

I am a rich Jewish

I'm stop reading

 

[Deleted member 2059]

Haha well yes that's me, I'm trying to keep myself updated on scarless regeneration. (I think it should happen this decade). Anyway, yes it's the same for me. My brutal scarring has made me incel tier. I think I'd be an HTN without it. How old are you btw? You think if scarless regeneration becomes a reality in few years you'd be able to lead a normal life or it's too late? I'm almost 22.

Anyway, I understand about using verteporfin but Im not going to excise my existing facial scar for it yet, all I need to do is test it's efficacy which I can do by maybe cutting my arm slightly deep and using it and seeing if my arm heals scarlessly. If it does, some doctor should be willing to use it off label I hope. Waiting for its research paper to be published anxiously.

Im a bit older than you (24), my scars are totally my own fault. It is from steroid abuse 1 year ago (WORST DECISION EVER), all the scarring is quite new and I have just started treating it, so hoping this means I can get some results from lasers and shit. ALl my old scars are very very minor to the point I don't care aobut, but my new ones can be classified as severe, they look kinda like picture linked in this post

I would hope for scarless healing, I just always imagined it was a sci fi fantasy, it takes ages for treatments to become available on mass, but imo, if they are that close to scarless healing it spells a lot for anti ageing treatments in general, so potentially ageing is not as much of a death sentence in and of itself as it once was as long as
1. Keep your hair
2. don't get fat
3. Have good height
4. have good facial bones
5. Are the right race for your country

WIthout my scars I think I could be alright, but for now I am disfigured. It is quite bad, I think about scarring 23 and out 24 hours of the day. If it happened in 10 years I would be past my prime no doubt, but still better than nothing. Like I said, hoping for more anti ageing treatment in general in that case so will have to moneymaxx to afford all that crap.

Haha well yes that's me, I'm trying to keep myself updated on scarless regeneration. (I think it should happen this decade). Anyway, yes it's the same for me. My brutal scarring has made me incel tier. I think I'd be an HTN without it. How old are you btw? You think if scarless regeneration becomes a reality in few years you'd be able to lead a normal life or it's too late? I'm almost 22.

Anyway, I understand about using verteporfin but Im not going to excise my existing facial scar for it yet, all I need to do is test it's efficacy which I can do by maybe cutting my arm slightly deep and using it and seeing if my arm heals scarlessly. If it does, some doctor should be willing to use it off label I hope. Waiting for its research paper to be published anxiously.

Btw can you not cover any of your scars with facial hair? I can do it a fair bit, not perfectly though but they are lower on my face, still looks like shit.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

Im a bit older than you (24), my scars are totally my own fault. It is from steroid abuse 1 year ago (WORST DECISION EVER), all the scarring is quite new and I have just started treating it, so hoping this means I can get some results from lasers and shit. ALl my old scars are very very minor to the point I don't care aobut, but my new ones can be classified as severe, they look kinda like picture linked in this post

I would hope for scarless healing, I just always imagined it was a sci fi fantasy, it takes ages for treatments to become available on mass, but imo, if they are that close to scarless healing it spells a lot for anti ageing treatments in general, so potentially ageing is not as much of a death sentence in and of itself as it once was as long as
1. Keep your hair
2. don't get fat
3. Have good height
4. have good facial bones
5. Are the right race for your country

WIthout my scars I think I could be alright, but for now I am disfigured. It is quite bad, I think about scarring 23 and out 24 hours of the day. If it happened in 10 years I would be past my prime no doubt, but still better than nothing. Like I said, hoping for more anti ageing treatment in general in that case so will have to moneymaxx to afford all that crap.

Btw can you not cover any of your scars with facial hair? I can do it a fair bit, not perfectly though but they are lower on my face, still looks like shit.

I can absolutely relate to your comment about scars being on your mind 23 out of 24 hours a day. I've been supremely suicidal in the past thanks to this facial deformity. These feel like small amputations you know? Anyway, as far as I understand these scars, the age of these scars don't matter a lot. Once, a chunk of your skin is missing, it remains missing owing to the current treatment standards.

Well, you're right, scarless regeneration would also work as anti-ageing, but being low body fat, micro needling regularly, using Retino-A, and maintaining your hairline is pretty much anti-ageing too you know? Microneedling and retino A imo is the current gold standard for Anti-Aging.

Well, since you mentioned having minor scars before, I'm assuming that your skin must be somewhat acne-prone, juicing while having acne-prone skin is a really bad idea bro. I want to juice too, I try and gymcel, but I can't. My skin is already in a severe state. I can't fuck it up anymore.

My cheeks, temples, and nose look similar to the picture that you sent, and I also have hypertrophic/keloidal scars over my back chest and shoulders. So as you see, it's pretty much over for me until some medical miracle takes place

What got me wondering is though, since your scarring is relatively new, and its the major cause of your inceldom, were you not incel before?

 

[Deleted member 2059]

I can absolutely relate to your comment about scars being on your mind 23 out of 24 hours a day. I've been supremely suicidal in the past thanks to this facial deformity. These feel like small amputations you know? Anyway, as far as I understand these scars, the age of these scars don't matter a lot. Once, a chunk of your skin is missing, it remains missing owing to the current treatment standards.

Well, you're right, scarless regeneration would also work as anti-ageing, but being low body fat, micro needling regularly, using Retino-A, and maintaining your hairline is pretty much anti-ageing too you know? Microneedling and retino A imo is the current gold standard for Anti-Aging.

Well, since you mentioned having minor scars before, I'm assuming that your skin must be somewhat acne-prone, juicing while having acne-prone skin is a really bad idea bro. I want to juice too, I try and gymcel, but I can't. My skin is already in a severe state. I can't fuck it up anymore.

My cheeks, temples, and nose look similar to the picture that you sent, and I also have hypertrophic/keloidal scars over my back chest and shoulders. So as you see, it's pretty much over for me until some medical miracle takes place

What got me wondering is though, since your scarring is relatively new, and its the major cause of your inceldom, were you not incel before?

I was incel due to severe cystic acne that didn't cause scarring when I was a teenager, then it cleared for a few yeras, and came back because of anavar testosterone cycle , this cycle caused scarring.

Yes there is fat loss/collagen destruction in my scars, did you ever try filler?

I can absolutely relate to your comment about scars being on your mind 23 out of 24 hours a day. I've been supremely suicidal in the past thanks to this facial deformity. These feel like small amputations you know? Anyway, as far as I understand these scars, the age of these scars don't matter a lot. Once, a chunk of your skin is missing, it remains missing owing to the current treatment standards.

Well, you're right, scarless regeneration would also work as anti-ageing, but being low body fat, micro needling regularly, using Retino-A, and maintaining your hairline is pretty much anti-ageing too you know? Microneedling and retino A imo is the current gold standard for Anti-Aging.

Well, since you mentioned having minor scars before, I'm assuming that your skin must be somewhat acne-prone, juicing while having acne-prone skin is a really bad idea bro. I want to juice too, I try and gymcel, but I can't. My skin is already in a severe state. I can't fuck it up anymore.

My cheeks, temples, and nose look similar to the picture that you sent, and I also have hypertrophic/keloidal scars over my back chest and shoulders. So as you see, it's pretty much over for me until some medical miracle takes place

What got me wondering is though, since your scarring is relatively new, and its the major cause of your inceldom, were you not incel before?

its funny first cycle i did test medium dose didn't cause much acne, but test + anavar cut caused deep scarring cysts, it was 2nd cycle, horrible idea obviously, and then i took accutane also which caused purge and made it worse

 

[NagarNikkucel]

I was incel due to severe cystic acne that didn't cause scarring when I was a teenager, then it cleared for a few yeras, and came back because of anavar testosterone cycle , this cycle caused scarring.

Yes there is fat loss/collagen destruction in my scars, did you ever try filler?

its funny first cycle i did test medium dose didn't cause much acne, but test + anavar cut caused deep scarring cysts, it was 2nd cycle, horrible idea obviously, and then i took accutane also which caused purge and made it worse

Shouldn't have ran test when you had cysts before bro, you were walking on a thin ice and could've saved yourself since you were blessed enough to not get severe scarring from your original acne.

I hope skin regeneration is achieved really soon. Have you heard about various different group of researchers working on this? There are lots of groups.

I tried fillers, subcision, microneedling radio-frequency, TCA Cross, derma rolling and ablative CO2 laser.

None of this shit is worth it. It's a fucking scam.

 

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Shouldn't have ran test when you had cysts before bro, you were walking on a thin ice and could've saved yourself since you were blessed enough to not get severe scarring from your original acne.

I hope skin regeneration is achieved really soon. Have you heard about various different group of researchers working on this? There are lots of groups.

I tried fillers, subcision, microneedling radio-frequency, TCA Cross, derma rolling and ablative CO2 laser.

None of this shit is worth it. It's a fucking scam.

Yeah it is something I regret every day of course, as well as not going on accutane when I was a teenager to clear it up for life, as well as not getting it treated with cortisone sooner before the chronic inflammation destroyed fat, because I never scarred before, I thought I was safe genetically, and even if I got acne, it would pass. Lesson learned.

Even though scars do not heal, they do generally improve a bit over a period of two years. Mine are so recent I still have PIE, so there is still inflammation and stuff going on in there, so it might improve a tiny bt more with treatment and about 2 years, but it will not heal to the point I will be happy with it most likely.

Yeah I read a lot of that thread, sounds really promising and could be our saviour, just have to be a bit patient. I can't stand that I fell for the anti accutane propaganda when I was a teenager and thought it would give me depression or something, such bullshit. Even if it gave me sexual impotence there are cures for that like TRT, there is nothing for having the skin of a cane toad like we have.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

Yeah it is something I regret every day of course, as well as not going on accutane when I was a teenager to clear it up for life, as well as not getting it treated with cortisone sooner before the chronic inflammation destroyed fat, because I never scarred before, I thought I was safe genetically, and even if I got acne, it would pass. Lesson learned.

Even though scars do not heal, they do generally improve a bit over a period of two years. Mine are so recent I still have PIE, so there is still inflammation and stuff going on in there, so it might improve a tiny bt more with treatment and about 2 years, but it will not heal to the point I will be happy with it most likely.

Yeah I read a lot of that thread, sounds really promising and could be our saviour, just have to be a bit patient. I can't stand that I fell for the anti accutane propaganda when I was a teenager and thought it would give me depression or something, such bullshit. Even if it gave me sexual impotence there are cures for that like TRT, there is nothing for having the skin of a cane toad like we have.

The redness will fade away, sure. Your PIH and PIE will fade away, but the depressions and pits and craters are here to stay, and will most likely not improve a lot even with the current acne scar treatments available. They're fucking scams to milk money tbh.

Anyway, it's okay though, what has happened, has happened. This is the closest we've ever been to scarless regeneration. Have you read the verteporfin research paper by Michael Longaker?

I'm on my second course of Accutane and I want to kill my acne for once and for all.

 

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The redness will fade away, sure. Your PIH and PIE will fade away, but the depressions and pits and craters are here to stay, and will most likely not improve a lot even with the current acne scar treatments available. They're fucking scams to milk money tbh.

Anyway, it's okay though, what has happened, has happened. This is the closest we've ever been to scarless regeneration. Have you read the verteporfin research paper by Michael Longaker?

I'm on my second course of Accutane and I want to kill my acne for once and for all.

I have seen that mice had remarkable healing properties and had no scarring during the study, of course this has to be replicated on primates or pigs before it be tested on humans, that was all quite recent, it is pretty amazing if it holds up across species. This would have huuge implications for scarring victims of all kinds. I imagine to treat acne scars, you would need to have all the scars excised and new wounds created, and then use the treatment during this healing. For me this would be quite extensive, large sections of face would need to be totally removed, a bit spooky.

The other thing about scars is they are not just cosmetic, they reduce function to, your skin is much more fragile and likely to be damaged by sun etc, has less mobility, has damaged hair/sweat glands and more .

I am also on low dose accutane for about 6 months, all acne totally gone, its black market accutane, i will prob keep it up for a couple of years just to be sure because I have no sides. I am down to 10mg 2x a week and no acne has emerged for at least 2 months now. I am also staying away from steroids obviously.

The redness will fade away, sure. Your PIH and PIE will fade away, but the depressions and pits and craters are here to stay, and will most likely not improve a lot even with the current acne scar treatments available. They're fucking scams to milk money tbh.

Anyway, it's okay though, what has happened, has happened. This is the closest we've ever been to scarless regeneration. Have you read the verteporfin research paper by Michael Longaker?

I'm on my second course of Accutane and I want to kill my acne for once and for all.

But yeah I guess that is one reason not to rope, is that this may be a possibility in the future, contemplating living with scars for the rest of my life really makes it seem not worth it.... I guess we can write off the next few years and hope to become normal in our late 20s/30s.

So fucking unfair, I dont even need good skin, just want to loook like a normal human. A normal dude in his 20s does not need to drop 10k and months of downtime to make slight improvements to not look like freddy krueger. Clear skinned people really dont know how good they have it. I am 6'1 and would trade probably about 5 inches of height to have better skin. I wouldn't go lower than that because then height becomes a equally bad problem, but rather be 5'8 with good skin then 6'2 with scars. Rather be bald too actually. These things are unattractive but they are not disgusting like acne scars.

 

[NagarNikkucel]

I have seen that mice had remarkable healing properties and had no scarring during the study, of course this has to be replicated on primates or pigs before it be tested on humans, that was all quite recent, it is pretty amazing if it holds up across species. This would have huuge implications for scarring victims of all kinds. I imagine to treat acne scars, you would need to have all the scars excised and new wounds created, and then use the treatment during this healing. For me this would be quite extensive, large sections of face would need to be totally removed, a bit spooky.

The other thing about scars is they are not just cosmetic, they reduce function to, your skin is much more fragile and likely to be damaged by sun etc, has less mobility, has damaged hair/sweat glands and more .

I am also on low dose accutane for about 6 months, all acne totally gone, its black market accutane, i will prob keep it up for a couple of years just to be sure because I have no sides. I am down to 10mg 2x a week and no acne has emerged for at least 2 months now. I am also staying away from steroids obviously.

You're on a very moderate dose, I'm on 80 mg/day. What's your height/weight bro?

I'm on Accutane off label as well, my derm won't let me get on second course because my acne can be controlled by "topical solutions" but I want to kill it from inside.

Have you seen my recent post on acne.org? One of longaker's colleague posted about FAKI inhibition in pig to reduce scarring, and it worked to a supremely great extent if you actually see the research paper I posted.

Secondly I'm not sure how exactly it would work for our small scattered scars, maybe each scar would get excised individually rather than say, entire cheek getting ripped apart.

Please also see Sunogel, and Tempo Therapeutics. They're 2 different group whose main focus is regenerative medicine as well.

There's also a German group called "ScarlessWorld" and they were granted 5M and their study concludes in 2024.

 

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You're on a very moderate dose, I'm on 80 mg/day. What's your height/weight bro?

I'm on Accutane off label as well, my derm won't let me get on second course because my acne can be controlled by "topical solutions" but I want to kill it from inside.

Have you seen my recent post on acne.org? One of longaker's colleague posted about FAKI inhibition in pig to reduce scarring, and it worked to a supremely great extent if you actually see the research paper I posted.

Secondly I'm not sure how exactly it would work for our small scattered scars, maybe each scar would get excised individually rather than say, entire cheek getting ripped apart.

Please also see Sunogel, and Tempo Therapeutics. They're 2 different group whose main focus is regenerative medicine as well.

There's also a German group called "ScarlessWorld" and they were granted 5M and their study concludes in 2024.

Ill check it out. I am a big guy, 6'1 and 208lb, about 14% body fat. so the dose is very tiny. But despite the dose being that small it keeps the acne totally gone, have not had any new acnes in 2 months. I am sure that if I go off though it will come back, doing 80mg a day will definitely permanently kill your acne if you can cope with potential side effects like hair thinning, nosebleeds etc that are more likely with super high dose like that

 

[NagarNikkucel]

Ill check it out. I am a big guy, 6'1 and 208lb, about 14% body fat. so the dose is very tiny. But despite the dose being that small it keeps the acne totally gone, have not had any new acnes in 2 months. I am sure that if I go off though it will come back, doing 80mg a day will definitely permanently kill your acne if you can cope with potential side effects like hair thinning, nosebleeds etc that are more likely with super high dose like that

Yeah I'm dealing with some super shitty side effects, but I'm with it because I really want to get rid of it this time for sure.

Damn bro you're a big man haha. I'm 6'2 200 lbs but about 22-23% bodyfat I think. I'm trying to sweat it out.

Anyway, please look at the FAKI inhibition pig trial that Gurtner conducted. Extremely positive news.

 

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1.80 - 1.85 can be incels above that it's difficult

 

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Jewcels can easily attract foids within their tribe
You can even woodyallenmaxx and score some jewchaser pussy
I still don't believe that you are THAT fucked