Serious WE NEED FASCISM 2.0

[Darth Misogynus]

WHY YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE MASS REPLACEMENT MIGRATION AND SUB-REPLACEMENT FERTILITY?

IT'S BECAUSE OF FEMINISTS...THEY ARE JEALOUS, THEY ARE HOLDING US BACK

I AM DRUNK AND ON A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS...WE NEED TO HAVE THE ATTITUDE TOWARDS FEMINISTS THAT YE (FKA KANYE WEST) HAS TOWARDS JEWS...MORE WHEN I AM MORE SOBER

 

[Horatio Alger]

Unfortunately, due to the lack of a feudalistic, agrarian past tradition that served as the intellectual cornerstone for a genuine fascist or communist movement in Europe, America's right wing intelligentsia never experienced a Counter Enlightenment, which put emphasis on authority and a return to tradition.

As it started out as a frontier state, there was no Ancien Regime, no State Church, no landed aristocracy, and no serfs (not tied down to land by oppressive landowners: can always freely migrate westwards and claim land, unless you're an enslaved niggER lol), which meant America was an overwhelmingly egalitarian state from its conception ie, a liberal state (overemphasis on le property rights and muh individualism) with no strong institutional foundation for the emergence of a genuine conservative movement (f*scism).

soi distant American Conservatives are liberals in all but name, espousing the same rights for everyone with the exception of faggots (for now).

Even pre-civil war Southern Conservatives from slave states advocated for property rights and individualism, just not for niggERs (herein lies the fatal flaw/contradiction of the American "Conservative" tradition, if the basis of your philosophy is equal rights for everyone but certain groups of people, taking it to its rational conclusion would mean giving equal rights to oppressed peoples as well, hence why American "Conservatives" are always merely a generation or two behind American Libs on social issues)


Also, quick side note, a bonafide, fascist mass movement, is also unviable in Europe post WW2 since most of its historical traditions and strong state institutions conducive to revolutionary movements were systematically dismantled by the allies + the demonization of fascism by western elites + lack of any major devastating wars/economic depressions that can serve as a catalyst for revolution due to the presence of the American security umbrella (NATO), which the BRILLIANT Professor Mearsheimer notes keeps the European nations in line

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[Horatio Alger]

Unfortunately, due to the lack of a feudalistic, agrarian past tradition that served as the intellectual cornerstone for a genuine fascist or communist movement in Europe, America's right wing intelligentsia never experienced a Counter Enlightenment, which put emphasis on authority and a return to tradition.

As it started out as a frontier state, there was no Ancien Regime, no State Church, no landed aristocracy, and no serfs (not tied down to land by oppressive landowners: can always freely migrate westwards and claim land, unless you're an enslaved niggER lol), which meant America was an overwhelmingly egalitarian state from its conception ie, a liberal state (overemphasis on le property rights and muh individualism) with no strong institutional foundation for the emergence of a genuine conservative movement (f*scism).

soi distant American Conservatives are liberals in all but name, espousing the same rights for everyone with the exception of faggots (for now).

Even pre-civil war Southern Conservatives from slave states advocated for property rights and individualism, just not for niggERs (herein lies the fatal flaw/contradiction of the American "Conservative" tradition, if the basis of your philosophy is equal rights for everyone but certain groups of people, taking it to its rational conclusion would mean giving equal rights to oppressed peoples as well, hence why American "Conservatives" are always merely a generation or two behind American Libs on social issues)


Also, quick side note, a bonafide, fascist mass movement, is also unviable in Europe post WW2 since most of its historical traditions and strong state institutions conducive to revolutionary movements were systematically dismantled by the allies + the demonization of fascism by western elites + lack of any major devastating wars/economic depressions that can serve as a catalyst for revolution due to the presence of the American security umbrella (NATO), which the BRILLIANT Professor Mearsheimer notes keeps the European nations in line

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@DarthBurritoBastard @pedrolopezwasright @Castaway @DarkStar

 

[Horatio Alger]

Of course, that is not to say a conspiracy organized by a small coalition of alienated political elites with covert backing from the army and certain financiers can't succeed in enacting a coupe against the ruling regime in America (since Europe is essentially a loose alliance that would collapse without American security guarantees, a fascist coupe will not be viable there)

After all, just because a mass movement with intellectual backing is unviable in today's age, doesn't mean a top down coupe planned by a handful of elites is completely out of the question...

A redux of a certain Business Plot perhaps

Business Plot - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Have you heard of Smedley Butler, the man chiefly responsible for mass inceldom?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot TLDR: Some of the richest businessmen and bankers in the country plotted to overthrow FDR and install retired General Smedley Butler as fascist dictator of the USA, but Smedley, being a cuck, ratted them all out to Congress. But but buh m- muh...

incels.is

 

[DarthBurritoBastard]

Fascism won’t work in the United States, the population is already obsessed with the ideas of “liberty” and “freedom”, unless some drastic change were to happen that would cause the population to be against this and become more authoritarian, which will never ever happen.

 

[Emba]

Fascinating

 

[Scatius Deletus]

Unfortunately, due to the lack of a feudalistic, agrarian past tradition that served as the intellectual cornerstone for a genuine fascist or communist movement in Europe, America's right wing intelligentsia never experienced a Counter Enlightenment, which put emphasis on authority and a return to tradition.

As it started out as a frontier state, there was no Ancien Regime, no State Church, no landed aristocracy, and no serfs (not tied down to land by oppressive landowners: can always freely migrate westwards and claim land, unless you're an enslaved niggER lol), which meant America was an overwhelmingly egalitarian state from its conception ie, a liberal state (overemphasis on le property rights and muh individualism) with no strong institutional foundation for the emergence of a genuine conservative movement (f*scism).

soi distant American Conservatives are liberals in all but name, espousing the same rights for everyone with the exception of faggots (for now).

Even pre-civil war Southern Conservatives from slave states advocated for property rights and individualism, just not for niggERs (herein lies the fatal flaw/contradiction of the American "Conservative" tradition, if the basis of your philosophy is equal rights for everyone but certain groups of people, taking it to its rational conclusion would mean giving equal rights to oppressed peoples as well, hence why American "Conservatives" are always merely a generation or two behind American Libs on social issues)


Also, quick side note, a bonafide, fascist mass movement, is also unviable in Europe post WW2 since most of its historical traditions and strong state institutions conducive to revolutionary movements were systematically dismantled by the allies + the demonization of fascism by western elites + lack of any major devastating wars/economic depressions that can serve as a catalyst for revolution due to the presence of the American security umbrella (NATO), which the BRILLIANT Professor Mearsheimer notes keeps the European nations in line

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High IQs me

 

[aitcel]

High IQs me

 

[Horatio Alger]

Fascism won’t work in the United States, the population is already obsessed with the ideas of “liberty” and “freedom”, unless some drastic change were to happen that would cause the population to be against this and become more authoritarian, which will never ever happen.

We already debated this Darth
If you read the obscure masterpiece Does Conquest Pay? The Exploitation of Occupied Industrial Societies, you'll know that as long as you have a monopoly on violence (complete loyalty of a unified and ruthless army willing to torture and kill domestic dissidents and their associates whether guilty or suspect), there is no possibility of a successful revolt even if the vast majority of the populace resent said ruthless regime

To quote verbatim from the book, Studies of modern authoritarian regimes report that "no transition can be forced purely by opponents against a regime which maintains the cohesion, capacity, and disposition to apply repression"

Transitions from Authoritarian Rule: Tentative Conclusions about Uncertain Democracies

After a coupe, one can exploit preexisting racial tensions in Jewmerica to divide and rule through the expeditious creation of a multiracial paramilitary force (racial tensions between violent thugs, whether white, black, hispanic, or asian, will override their cherishment of enshrined rights since most primarily value rights and freedom of speech when only their rights are threatened, but that is a non-issue since their ruthless acts will be rewarded)

Just like Stalin exploited the historical emnity between Jews and Poles during the Great Purge (Deploying ethnically Jewish secret policemen to investigate and purge ethnically Polish party members near the borderlands),

Just like Austria Hungary deployed Slavic, Hungarian, and Romanian troops outside of their respective territorial homelands to the other side of the country to circumvent any possibility of an ethnic revolt

In a hypothetical fascist America, one can deploy freshly recruited, racist white paramilitary troops to brutalize black ghetto communities; black secret policemen recruited from urban shitholes like Detroit to brutalize suburban white communities that are overwhelmingly liberal and Hispanic majority regions since Blacks and Hispanics also have deep racial enmity


This strategy of divide and rule will certainly make it harder for dissidents to overcome the collective action problem and resist the newly established, top down fascist regime



P.S.

Sorry for the late reply, my roommate told me I had to help him clean up our living space with him

 

[Darth Misogynus]

Unfortunately, due to the lack of a feudalistic, agrarian past tradition that served as the intellectual cornerstone for a genuine fascist or communist movement in Europe, America's right wing intelligentsia never experienced a Counter Enlightenment, which put emphasis on authority and a return to tradition.

MOSTLY CAUSE YANKS ARE RETARDS

THINK ABOUT IT...I MYSELF WAS BORN A YANK (I DON'T IDENTIFY WITH IT, I SEE MYSELF AS A DIASPORIC EUROPEAN)

YANKS ARE RETARDS WITH A CUCKED CULTURE...GENITAL MUTILATION FOR NEWBORN BOYS, RIDICULOUSLY HIGH DRINKING AGE (DRINKING IS MY ONLY WAY TO EVER FEEL HAPPY) FAT ASS BURGER EATING PICK UP TRUCK DRIVING ASSHOLES, VAGINOCENTRIC SOCIETY

THERE ARE SOME COOL YANKS, BUT IT SEEMS THEY ARE ALL EITHER MINORITIES (MICHAEL JACKSON THE FBA, NICK FUENTES THE MEXICAN, DONALD TRUMP THE GAEL)

BUT THEIR/OUR SOCIETY IS FUCKED

 

[m3nt4Lbl0ck3d]

Fascinating

I approve this message

 

[Darth Misogynus]

We already debated this Darth
If you read the obscure masterpiece Does Conquest Pay? The Exploitation of Occupied Industrial Societies, you'll know that as long as you have a monopoly on violence (complete loyalty of a unified and ruthless army willing to torture and kill domestic dissidents and their associates whether guilty or suspect), there is no possibility of a successful revolt even if the vast majority of the populace resent said ruthless regime

To quote verbatim from the book, Studies of modern authoritarian regimes report that "no transition can be forced purely by opponents against a regime which maintains the cohesion, capacity, and disposition to apply repression"

Transitions from Authoritarian Rule: Tentative Conclusions about Uncertain Democracies

After a coupe, one can exploit preexisting racial tensions in Jewmerica to divide and rule through the expeditious creation of a multiracial paramilitary force (racial tensions between violent thugs, whether white, black, hispanic, or asian, will override their cherishment of enshrined rights since most primarily value rights and freedom of speech when only their rights are threatened, but that is a non-issue since their ruthless acts will be rewarded)

Just like Stalin exploited the historical emnity between Jews and Poles during the Great Purge (Deploying ethnically Jewish secret policemen to investigate and purge ethnically Polish party members near the borderlands),

Just like Austria Hungary deployed Slavic, Hungarian, and Romanian troops outside of their respective territorial homelands to the other side of the country to circumvent any possibility of an ethnic revolt

In a hypothetical fascist America, one can deploy freshly recruited, racist white paramilitary troops to brutalize black ghetto communities; black secret policemen recruited from urban shitholes like Detroit to brutalize suburban white communities that are overwhelmingly liberal and Hispanic majority regions since Blacks and Hispanics also have deep racial enmity


This strategy of divide and rule will certainly make it harder for dissidents to overcome the collective action problem and resist the newly established, top down fascist regime



P.S.

Sorry for the late reply, my roommate told me I had to help him clean up our living space with him

FASCISM IS SOOOOO FRESH

 

[pedrolopezwasright]

Unfortunately, due to the lack of a feudalistic, agrarian past tradition that served as the intellectual cornerstone for a genuine fascist or communist movement in Europe, America's right wing intelligentsia never experienced a Counter Enlightenment, which put emphasis on authority and a return to tradition.

As it started out as a frontier state, there was no Ancien Regime, no State Church, no landed aristocracy, and no serfs (not tied down to land by oppressive landowners: can always freely migrate westwards and claim land, unless you're an enslaved niggER lol), which meant America was an overwhelmingly egalitarian state from its conception ie, a liberal state (overemphasis on le property rights and muh individualism) with no strong institutional foundation for the emergence of a genuine conservative movement (f*scism).

soi distant American Conservatives are liberals in all but name, espousing the same rights for everyone with the exception of faggots (for now).

Even pre-civil war Southern Conservatives from slave states advocated for property rights and individualism, just not for niggERs (herein lies the fatal flaw/contradiction of the American "Conservative" tradition, if the basis of your philosophy is equal rights for everyone but certain groups of people, taking it to its rational conclusion would mean giving equal rights to oppressed peoples as well, hence why American "Conservatives" are always merely a generation or two behind American Libs on social issues)


Also, quick side note, a bonafide, fascist mass movement, is also unviable in Europe post WW2 since most of its historical traditions and strong state institutions conducive to revolutionary movements were systematically dismantled by the allies + the demonization of fascism by western elites + lack of any major devastating wars/economic depressions that can serve as a catalyst for revolution due to the presence of the American security umbrella (NATO), which the BRILLIANT Professor Mearsheimer notes keeps the European nations in line

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Traditionally conservatives were against industrial revolution (basically advocating for pol-pot style agrarian state, perhaps less oppressive and with manufactures). Masses were, well except luddites, largely for abolition of manufactures significantly because of higher standards for work ethics and labor rights. So if we treat Fascism as something based on agrarian state framework - America had foundation for it, but it wasn't sustainable in advance.

As about American liberal tradition, I might have controversial opinion on the topic; It was likely a British proxy strategy to keep their hand on America, as people wouldn't have thought about liberal party being proxy. It shows in their support for slavery. Actual British proxy from the start wasn't the conservative party; Of course as time gone, everything changed. British influenced faded away from party and its derivatives, but the root is clear for me.

 

[Darth Misogynus]

Traditionally conservatives were against industrial revolution (basically advocating for pol-pot style agrarian state, perhaps less oppressive and with manufactures). Masses were, well except luddites, largely for abolition of manufactures significantly because of higher standards for work ethics and labor rights. So if we treat Fascism as something based on agrarian state framework - America had foundation for it, but it wasn't sustainable in advance.

As about American liberal tradition, I might have controversial opinion on the topic; It was likely a British proxy strategy to keep their hand on America, as people wouldn't have thought about liberal party being proxy. It shows in their support for slavery. Actual British proxy from the start wasn't the conservative party; Of course as time gone, everything changed. British influenced faded away from party and its derivatives, but the root is clear for me.

American politics are weird compared to European politics.

American "conservatism" is all about "MUH FREEDOM", whereas European conservatism is about your homeland and people.

 

[pedrolopezwasright]

American politics are weird compared to European politics.

American "conservatism" is all about "MUH FREEDOM", whereas European conservatism is about your homeland and people.

Because as I said they took the wrong path quite a while ago. As American masses were radical and liberal conservatives needed to conform to them to survive; This way conservative party became liberal itself. European conservatism is a more complex thing as America first was Europe's proxy, it was before conservatives in America took the wrong turn therefore in Europe conservatism was a stable thing.

Also, I know my opinion on liberals being British proxy might sound crazy, but actually makes sense; Europe never had this version of liberalism, isn't it strange it firstly was born in previously proxy country which won independence not so long ago.

 

[Darth Misogynus]

Because as I said they took the wrong path quite a while ago. As American masses were radical and liberal conservatives needed to conform to them to survive; This way conservative party became liberal itself. European conservatism is a more complex thing as America first was Europe's proxy, it was before conservatives in America took the wrong turn therefore in Europe conservatism was a stable thing.

Also, I know my opinion on liberals being British proxy might sound crazy, but actually makes sense; Europe never had this version of liberalism, isn't it strange it firstly was born in previously proxy country which won independence not so long ago.

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