Blackpill We Aren't The Morally Superior Side, Both Sides Are Inherently Immoral

[BlkPillPres]

This thread came about due to a comment I made in my other thread - https://incels.is/threads/for-men-who-wont-escortcel-due-to-pride.91602/

It rang so true in my head I knew I had to give it a personal thread, too many coping retards deluding themselves into thinking themselves that they are the "good side" in this battle of the sexes, so damn blue pilled, morality is not a factor in this war or any war for that matter, were fighting to win period, and our win means other people suffer and are subjected to our wills, stop coping so you don't feel bad.

I'll never get incels like this who can't see the contradiction in being a moralfag, and having your stance be that women should be forced to restrict their desires for the sake of a stable society, that stance is also immoral, so stop focusing on morals, logic should be the foundation of your beliefs, these retards don't get that both sides are immoral, morality is irrelevant, if we were being completely moral here, we'd all just kill ourselves for being genetic defects and let Chads and Stacies breed in peace to weed out our inferior genes and let society truly propser, but no, we as incels are seeking out our own personal interests.

EARTH TO MORALFAGS - (@BrendioEEE and friends) There is nothing fucking moral about the changes we want to make in society, by restricting who women can fuck, we are forcing our wills upon them, we are infringing upon their free will for the sake of our happiness, morality is not a factor here, you idiots are fucking hypocrites, get off your high horse and be realistic and logical, were all "the bad guys", both sides, there is no good or bad, history decides who the protagonists are because its THE WINNERS WHO WRITE THE HISTORY BOOKS.

 

[Lynne]

It's just nature. It's like trying to argue the morality of lions eating gazelles. According to the gazelles' side, they don't want to be eaten. According to the lions' side, they don't want to stop eating gazelles and starve.

 

[BlkPillPres]

It's just nature. It's like trying to argue the morality of lions eating gazelles. According to the gazelles' side, they don't want to be eaten. According to the lions' side, they don't want to stop eating gazelles and starve.

 

[jet112]

we are morally superior because we believe in traditionalism, 2 parent households, paying taxes and being a good citizen in general.

society is not chaos, there are laws,rules,regulations,constitution,rights etc.
incels are society, we are trying to maintain what used to be "society" in the most basic sense of the word.
even if current society is slowly becoming a mad max type of dystopia. we are the ones that want to bring back civic's and objective morality.
our mission is to propagate this planet and pass on values and belief's onwards to the next generation.
your proposition is that we become animals like normies so we can all sink this ship faster into oblivion.

 

[IronMike]

other than the fact that I'm a virgin, my life is damn good all things considered. I'll stick with my morals.

 

[Grotesque]

lol morals

 

[StaroRavager]

It's just nature. It's like trying to argue the morality of lions eating gazelles. According to the gazelles' side, they don't want to be eaten. According to the lions' side, they don't want to stop eating gazelles and starve.

Well said

 

[SeifEsteem]

we are morally superior because we believe in traditionalism, 2 parent households, paying taxes and being a good citizen in general.

society is not chaos, there are laws,rules,regulations,constitution,rights etc.
incels are society, we are trying to maintain what used to be "society" in the most basic sense of the word.
even if current society is slowly becoming a mad max type of dystopia. we are the ones that want to bring back civic's and objective morality.
our mission is to propagate this planet and pass on values and belief's onwards to the next generation.
your proposition is that we become animals like normies so we can all sink this ship faster into oblivion.

low iq, you're projecting humanistic ideals

@BlkPillPres

 

[mikepence]

It's just nature. It's like trying to argue the morality of lions eating gazelles. According to the gazelles' side, they don't want to be eaten. According to the lions' side, they don't want to stop eating gazelles and starve.

True, the world is a mean, heartless place. And the only way out is death.

 

[BlkPillPres]

we are morally superior because we believe in traditionalism, 2 parent households, paying taxes and being a good citizen in general.

This is no different than saying you are right because you say you are, there is nothing inherently morally good about traditionalism. It relies on forcing women to do things they don't want to do in order to function efficiently, the purest most effective form of traditionalism entails denying women access to monetary resources (aren't allowed to work), relegating them and their duties to the home, denying them the ability to own property and denying them the ability to effectively chose who they mate with, to the best of their abilities.

You are falsely conflating two ideas as one here, please see what you are doing, you are conflating what you believe is best for society, with what is moral, they aren't one and the same. In order to have a perfect society we have to infringe upon women's rights, that's just a fact, that isn't moral, you can't logically make that claim.

incels are society, we are trying to maintain what used to be "society" in the most basic sense of the word.

No were the rejects of society.

Lets say all men who are 6/10 and below just died tomorrow, and genetic recombination ceased to work, so from that point on, every human born was a 7/10 or above, no genetic defects either, and women had the same standards they do now. There would no longer be any incels, nobody would care about women being slutty because every man would essentially be getting laid.

Its only an issue for us because were excluded from it. Be honest with yourself, our stance is not a moral one, its one of logic, one of whats beneficial to us. If we were truly being moral, we'd all kill ourselves off and never procreate, to ensure the likelihood of no future incels being born, and to make sure that there are less inferior genes being spread in the human genepool, that would have a long term prosperous effect for society as a whole.

We aren't the hero's in this story, nobody is, were all basically anti-heros, in fact villains.

I mean our side is going out frustrated and suicidal and doing mass shootings, we celebrate those things, we refer to those men as saints JFL. We aren't the moral ones, at the same time, the other side is subjecting us to miserable lives where we feel suicidal, creating biased laws against us, etc. They aren't morally superior either.

I think were supposed to be the logical ones and acknowledge that, were no different than the other side if we fall for the same cope of "being morally superior" like they are, leave emotional thinking to our enemies, morality only blinds you from your true goals.

JFL at thinking you're morally superior when your end goal is to enforce your way of life onto others and you celebrate mass murder, please try and be logical here, try and be introspective and honest, MORALS HOLD NO PLACE IN A WAR. We should not even be discussing things in the context of morality, we should only discuss what is logical, what is effective, what steps we have to take to get what we want, leave morality to the illogical.

low iq, you're projecting humanistic ideals

@BlkPillPres

Exactly, some people can't function with a cope that strokes their go. Reminds me of this private message I got from a user asking me why I have no pride in anything, this is why, its all ego, it blinds you, your mindset less and less logical the closer a topic comes to threatening your ego (how you view yourself).

 

[BlkPillPres]

the Predator's Manifesto:

Who is this?, I like that he doesn't exlude female family members, I see so many so called black pilled users on this site who make these comfy little mental exceptions for family.

 

[Remyx]

This fucked up world has always been about survival of the fittest, not morals. Everyone is selfish, it's human nature.

It's over for virtue signalingcels.

 

[jet112]

This is no different than saying you are right because you say you are, there is nothing inherently morally good about traditionalism. It relies on forcing women to do things they don't want to do in order to function efficiently, the purest most effective form of traditionalism entails denying women access to monetary resources (aren't allowed to work), relegating them and their duties to the home, denying them the ability to own property and denying them the ability to effectively chose who they mate with, to the best of their abilities.

im not forcing woman to do anything. being a wife is the same as working a 9-5 job. you just have to do it (or else, there won't be any children to become adults and sustain society).

you are talking about ultimate freedom, not just freedom.
are you free to smoke weed instead of studying at school? no. you have obligations. (not only for yourself, but for society as well).
its the same as being a mother, being a mother is the same as going to school, or get a job. its something you have to do.
and sustaining society includes, breeding with the milkman, the butcher, the garbageman, the mailman etc.
i know that's off the table for alot of woman, but its just something they have to do. there is no choice. we can't keep bringing in migrants to replace the current population over and over and over.
you can't bomb a nation because woman have just decided they want to sit around and fuck dildos all day, there should be SOME accountability on their part.
this is a more general response to the rest of the stuff you written

 

[BlkPillPres]

im not forcing woman to do anything. being a wife is the same as working a 9-5 job. you just have to do it (or else, there won't be any children to become adults and sustain society).

Were not talking about just making women wives, women can become wives today after whoring around so whats your point, women are birthing children to sustain society even in these times of whoredom, so whats your point here?

Stop being disingenuous and trying to dodge the argument. The society we want to make, is one where women can't whore around, and have to date and marry their looks matches, that is forcing women to do something. Don't jump to marriage out of nowhere, stick to the point.

this is a more general response to the rest of the stuff you written

No shit, that's the obvious part, you are purposefully not addressing anything I actually said in a direct manner because it can't be argued against, this is just a sad attempt to avoid the argument, if you aren't going to address the points, don't bother responding. You are essentially just creating a strawman to argue against and laughably you are admitting to it right now, you might as well just argue with yourself, because you aren't arguing with me right now.

 

[jet112]

No shit, that's the obvious part, you are purposefully not addressing anything I actually said in a direct manner because it can't be argued against, this is just a sad attempt to avoid the argument, if you aren't going to address the points, don't bother responding. You are essentially just creating a strawman to argue against and laughably you are admitting to it right now, you might as well just argue with yourself, because you aren't arguing with me right now.

no. woman are literally not having children.
go read about the demographic winter before you make any other comment. stop posting memes you overheard at other places.
the incel issue is the demographic winter, more people are becoming incels.
im trying to explain why your argument of "religious bondage and sexual slavery" is ridicules.being in a family and fucking 1 man is not bondage or slavery, its called being a well-functioning human being. i don't know why you compare marriage to some kind of torture chamber analogy

 

[BlkPillPres]

no. woman are literally not having children

Wrong, they aren't making children at the same "early" ages that they used to or they aren't having children at the same rate, that's a good thing, we don't have infinite space on the planet, the planet doesn't have infinite resources. We don't need to be breeding like rabbits.

the incel issue is the demographic winter, more people are becoming incels.

JFL look at this major cope, telling yourself that your misfortune is just a matter of demographics and everyone is somehow "facing this problem". No you huge coper, we are a population of 8 fucking billion, we don't need to breed at the same rates we used to, in fact its better if we don't, you're coping hardcore right now, its only us suffering from this problem, its only us thats sexually frustrated, coping by aligning yourself with normies and treating this as a "demographic winter" is ridiculous and sad.

"Were all in this together" is a monumental cope

This isn't a "global problem", its a "low tier genetics male" problem, that's it, were alone in this.

i don't know why you compare marriage to some kind of torture chamber analogy

It isn't for men because it favors our biological imperatives, it is basically slavery for women because it is against their biological imperatives, they want to go around from dick to dick, chad to chad, and still have another man take care of them, they can't do that in a traditionalist society, so we essentially have to force them to live against their own wants. THAT IS IMMORAL.

Stop coping, women don't want monogamy, they never did, monogamy favors males not females.

 

[jet112]

Wrong, they aren't making children at the same "early" ages that they used to or they aren't having children at the same rate, that's a good thing, we don't have infinite space on the planet, the planet doesn't have infinite resources. We don't need to be breeding like rabbits.

you obviously don't understand what it means.
its an effect in motion, meaning- it gains momentum quickly, even when it starts slowly.
the world population is growing on paper, but because people are getting older so it creates a paradox effect.
im not just talking about 12% incels that will be gone forever and the world will keep on turning. im talking 50% in 50 years. do you understand the significance of this? unless you can extract oil,grow your own food and drink from the river. you won't have those things available in the near future.

 

[BlkPillPres]

you obviously don't understand what it means. its an effect in motion, meaning- it gains momentum quickly, even when it starts slowly.

Yeah and when it gets too low we'll just start breeding more again, this isn't rocket science

Again lets not diverge too much from the point, none of this has nothing to do with morality, just a biological reality. You have to see the ridiculous irony of arguing morality on the act of fucking, that's what reproduction is, morality holds no place in these discussions, just facts. Trying to be a moral incel is ridiculous, you'll always end up contradicting yourself, or worst yet limiting yourself.