Blackpill We are the bad guys

[theson]

Every typical coming of age experience people have is a stepping stone in the human consciousness' maturation. If you don't have memories like playing sports with your dad, competing on a sports team, going camping, going on a date for the first time, going to house parties in college, etc, you are not truly human. Think of the brain as a hardware platform and your mind or personality as the operating system. Every experience you have in your life is one progress bar in the installation process. If you grew up in the role of a loser (and consequently an incel) then you are literally a retard. Your mind is not capable of operating on the same level as a normal person. You haven't been programmed to respond to social cues and deal with everyday life tasks. Most people are an agglomeration of happiness, warmth, light, of interesting experiences and unique skills that others value. An incel is filled with nothing but darkness, regret, and pain. Incels, therefore, do not have a soul. And even if people are open to just communicating with you in a platonic way despite your ugly exterior, they will immediately detect your social retardation within a few lines of conversation because your awkward mannerisms and speech will betray that you are socially retarded.

 

[IamJacksBrokenHeart]

are you trying to say that its over?

 

[Deleted member 17235]

Just train with a tulpa those social interactions, I can switch my host to a sociopath tulpa and fool them till I get mentally exhausted

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

We should do something about it in the futuERe

 

[WawelDragon1683]

We are indeed. But we are not to blame.

 

[vic624]

I get the thesis, but you sound like you've totally bought into the Hollywood version of development. People don't need to match the life of an 80s teen movie. As this site demonstrates, there is no "normal" trajectory, thanks in large part to multiculturalism. How could an immigrant ethnic possibly have the same upbringing as an American WASP? Social media has allowed the marketers to push a desired lifestyle, but that lifestyle is unattainable for the "normal" broadest set of people. When you're 14-25 you need validation from your peers, but we live in times where people don't really live around their peers, they live around multiple different trajectories that only overlap in places like school.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Most people are an agglomeration of happiness, warmth, light, of interesting experiences and unique skills that others value. An incel is filled with nothing but darkness, regret, and pain. Incels, therefore, do not have a soul.

I think it's the other way around, normies are typically NPCs, people who can't think for themselves. Sure their experiences might be more pleasurable, but interesting certainly wouldn't be a word I'd use to describe them. Normies use their social interactions and families to cope with living in a meaningless world.

On the other hand incels are forced to construct their own contentment. Even if it serves to merely soothe the pain, our lives are probably more interesting and unique than that of your average normie. It's the deprivation which forces us to adapt tbh.

 

[souljeroflove]

Every typical coming of age experience people have is a stepping stone in the human consciousness' maturation. If you don't have memories like playing sports with your dad, competing on a sports team, going camping, going on a date for the first time, going to house parties in college, etc, you are not truly human. Think of the brain as a hardware platform and your mind or personality as the operating system. Every experience you have in your life is one progress bar in the installation process. If you grew up in the role of a loser (and consequently an incel) then you are literally a retard. Your mind is not capable of operating on the same level as a normal person. You haven't been programmed to respond to social cues and deal with everyday life tasks. Most people are an agglomeration of happiness, warmth, light, of interesting experiences and unique skills that others value. An incel is filled with nothing but darkness, regret, and pain. Incels, therefore, do not have a soul. And even if people are open to just communicating with you in a platonic way despite your ugly exterior, they will immediately detect your social retardation within a few lines of conversation because your awkward mannerisms and speech will betray that you are socially retarded.

So then what if I had a relatively normal upbringing, and at least some coming of age type experiences with family and other people who were friendly and treated me well despite my appearance. What does it make me if my "operating system" is basically installed but I'm still completely incapable of finding a romantic relationship? I feel like if I was anti-social I could somehow make strides to work on that...but I'm just really unattractive....so what then?

 

[Deleted member 20811]

So then what if I had a relatively normal upbringing, and at least some coming of age type experiences with family and other people who were friendly and treated me well despite my appearance. What does it make me if my "operating system" is basically installed but I'm still completely incapable of finding a romantic relationship? I feel like if I was anti-social I could somehow make strides to work on that...but I'm just really unattractive....so what then?

We cope.

are you trying to say that its over?

Never began tbh

 

[Deleted member 19236]

I get the thesis, but you sound like you've totally bought into the Hollywood version of development. People don't need to match the life of an 80s teen movie. As this site demonstrates, there is no "normal" trajectory, thanks in large part to multiculturalism. How could an immigrant ethnic possibly have the same upbringing as an American WASP? Social media has allowed the marketers to push a desired lifestyle, but that lifestyle is unattainable for the "normal" broadest set of people. When you're 14-25 you need validation from your peers, but we live in times where people don't really live around their peers, they live around multiple different trajectories that only overlap in places like school.

Also,things are changing alot with how technology is today, if you are a zoomer you shouldnt compare yourself to millenials/before
you are 100% right

 

[theson]

I think it's the other way around, normies are typically NPCs, people who can't think for themselves.

To them you are the NPC because your past social isolation creates a barrier that makes it impossible for other people to relate to you or vice versa. You know those pop sci shows on the discovery channel that talk about some hot topic in astronomy like black holes? Everyone has heard about black holes, or that we are made of star stuff (thanks black science man), but the typical person only has a very surface level of knowledge on these topics, but a scientist that actually studies black holes would probably find it very boring and even a little annoying to talk about those topics with your average person because their ignorance would be extremely apparent and they couldn't offer anything interesting in the way of conversation about this topic. It is like this with any topic that one person has an in depth knowledge of, and another person doesn't. Well, the average person has an extremely in depth knowledge about interpersonal relationships and social events, and when someone starts talking to you about their girlfriend or about what they they did last weekend, it's going to be extremely obvious that you're the guy that "knows" about these things, but has never actually lived them. You are the NPC to them because you have nothing to offer and they have nothing to connect with you to. You just have generic pre-programmed lines that you reply with because you don't know shit about relationships or what it's like to go to a party.

So then what if I had a relatively normal upbringing, and at least some coming of age type experiences with family and other people who were friendly and treated me well despite my appearance. What does it make me if my "operating system" is basically installed but I'm still completely incapable of finding a romantic relationship? I feel like if I was anti-social I could somehow make strides to work on that...but I'm just really unattractive....so what then?

You're actually ahead of the curve because even though you may never be loved, you could at least in theory still have friends. Everyone I grew up around has always hated me and I never have any friends. When anyone hears me talk, I can immediately detect how bored and disappointed they are because I have nothing to offer them. I'm a nearly 30 year old boy and I have nothing in common with the average male my age.

I get the thesis, but you sound like you've totally bought into the Hollywood version of development. People don't need to match the life of an 80s teen movie. As this site demonstrates, there is no "normal" trajectory, thanks in large part to multiculturalism. How could an immigrant ethnic possibly have the same upbringing as an American WASP? Social media has allowed the marketers to push a desired lifestyle, but that lifestyle is unattainable for the "normal" broadest set of people. When you're 14-25 you need validation from your peers, but we live in times where people don't really live around their peers, they live around multiple different trajectories that only overlap in places like school.

I think you may be underestimating the average person's life. Sure, it's not exactly like your typical Hollywood teen movie (and I'm not a WASP myself), but most people definitely have a decent childhood and adolescence. Most people do have friends and meet most major milestones. If you have nothing to look back on fondly, chances are you had a shitty upbringing. Yeah, some normal guys still act like cringe teenagers well into their adulthood (those who like Marvel movies, Star Wars, call themselves "nerds" or "gamers"), there are definitely cases of arrested development besides what incels experience, but the crucial difference is that those cringe manchildren who call themselves "geeks" and male feminists probably were invited to some parties and probably remember their first kiss. What do you remember? Decades of being locked up in your room?

 

[Bangkok or bust]

I think it's the other way around, normies are typically NPCs, people who can't think for themselves. .

And thats an infantlized trait. Its like still believing in Santa Claus at 16.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

And thats an infantlized trait. Its like still believing in Santa Claus at 16.

Let me cope bro.

 

[theson]

Also,things are changing alot with how technology is today, if you are a zoomer you shouldnt compare yourself to millenials/before
you are 100% right

There's no doubt that technology has greatly influenced how we interact today compared to 20 years ago but in each generation their is an analogue for what constitutes "milestones". For example, when I was growing up not everyone even had cell phones until I was in my late teens and stuff like sexting and creating homemade nudes of your GF was not really viable until I was in my 20s. Nowadays I have no doubt that almost every guy who has GFs has been sent lewd pics by her, and there are probably going to be many (increasingly many) boys growing up who never experienced that because they are incels. I say increasingly many because obviously one of the consequences of the social media-obsessed dystopia we live in are rising beauty standards for males.

 

[vic624]

I think you may be underestimating the average person's life. Sure, it's not exactly like your typical Hollywood teen movie (and I'm not a WASP myself), but most people definitely have a decent childhood and adolescence. Most people do have friends and meet most major milestones. If you have nothing to look back on fondly, chances are you had a shitty upbringing. Yeah, some normal guys still act like cringe teenagers well into their adulthood (those who like Marvel movies, Star Wars, call themselves "nerds" or "gamers"), there are definitely cases of arrested development besides what incels experience, but the crucial difference is that those cringe manchildren who call themselves "geeks" and male feminists probably were invited to some parties and probably remember their first kiss. What do you remember? Decades of being locked up in your room?

I understand, but I suspect the "looking back" part of anything is overrated. I've done a lot of stuff solo and only ever think about a few things. Maybe the memories would have been amplified with a partner, but the person could also have diminished the experience. If you hang around boomers, they almost always repeat the same stories. This is true of my boomer parents and boomers I've known in other circumstances.

I'm about your age and our youth was tumultuous because at the start of our puberty there was limited social media and online dating was still social stunned among young people. The latter part of our youth during college ages was the rise of facebook and tinder. There's a subset of millenials who were born in the late 80s and who are the most noticeable "baby bump" in demographic trends besides the boomers. That's us. The "90s kids" who grew up with NickToons and the Disney Renaissance. I suspect that you're correct that our peers did mostly have "normal" development when they hit puberty and attended college, but the stats show a large amount ended up in the same place we did; LDARing and/or NEETing. By some estimates 25% of millenials live with their parents.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

You will definitely have less investment in society, and will have less motivation to be moral. There's a reason why villains in movies are not good looking. If they are, they have a low trust look. The halo effect is strong, people can't imagine a high trust goodlooking villain.