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Valid reasons why I don't believe blacks are inherently less intelligent

Logic55

Logic55

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I will not be biased when discussing this controversial topic. I will consider arguments from both sides.

What influences IQ more? Genetics or socioeconomic factors? Here is the answer, none. Why? The consensus of the scientific community is that both contribute to IQ. In some studies, genetics is shown to be more influential, in other studies, socioeconomic/environmental factors are more influential. Which study do you trust? You can't pick a side because of conflicting studies.

Here is my evidence
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I will come back and provide a link, I forgot to add it.https://www.simplypsychology.org/naturevsnurture.html

Race "realists" believe that climate affects your Intelligence. As a non-believer of race realism, this is true. If you are in an environment that with difficult conditions, creativity and problem solving is needed to survive. This has happened with all races, not just Europeans. If genes for superior intelligence is due to cold weather then why were people in warm climates able to invent and create advancements like in Mesopotamia and in the Aztec empire. Race realists will answer something like, "well, Europeans had better technology and established effective systems of government" this is true, however, in sub saharan Africa, those people were isolated from the rest of the world due to the physical/natural barriers. Europe, Asia, and the middle east shared ideas and borrowed technologies from each other. Africa was left out. Europe, Asia, and the middle east has trading routes to trade with each other, they were all connected due to geography. Africa also lacked natural resources which is why they couldn't build the things that were invented in other continents. It was very difficult for people in sub saharan Africa to farm because most of the land wasnt suitable for growing food. The environmental conditions of Africa prevented it's inhabitants from thriving.

Lets say that a caveman in Asia was alone and had to eat an animal to survive. He picks up a tree branch and attached a sharp rock to it. It is now a spear. The environment caused the caveman to use his creativity to make the spear. The caveman then makes a bow and arrow, a shovel, a hut, and so on. Does this reflect his genetics? No, he was able to make this stuff because of the environmental pressures that he was faced with. Over time, this knowledge is then passed down to his offspring. His genes for intelligence that are passed down to his children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren are not improved. Inventing new things doesnt change your genes for Intelligence. In other words, genes that influence intelligence are not altered due to the climate or environment. However, genes for your physical appearance are affected by climate and weather. I can go on and on, I just don't want to make this too long

If you want to critique me, go ahead and do it. I'm fine with that. And be mature about it too. Saying things like "you're a coping faggot", "you are an SJW", "you are stupid shitskin" "you are soyboy" are not productive. These are comments thrown at me by uneducated people. I would rather have an interesting conversation than engage in a pointless argument.
 
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I'm not racist. I have no hate for decent law abiding blacks. But generally speaking, blacks are less intelligent than other races. That's just an objective fact.

Blacks have achieved nothing in the fields of architecture, art, literature, science etc.

Black culture (art, music, fashion) in general is ugly, loud, primitive, undignified and graceless. See: rap, hip hop and twerking.

Many Blacks can't even articulate themselves properly in English even though it's their first language.

I can go on and on.

I'm not saying all blacks are dumb. But the vast majority of them are of below average intelligence.
 
We need a test for the nigger problem. Put 100 aryan niggers with the worst environment, and put 100 subhuman niggers in a perfect living environment. Then the niggerist question will be finally answered.
 
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come on man can you be serious for one second
 
actually there might be a reason for why a some blacks are genetically less intelligent, it could be because of the selective breeding during the period they were enslaved. They were just selected to be the biggest and strongest so they can be better slaves, so that might have something to do with it.
 
It’s quite apparent and obvious that blacks are less intelligent than whites, rices, spics, and curries. Blacks commit such a disproportionate amount of crime and are way less in white collar jobs
 
come on man can you be serious for one second
It's funny how you say "can your be serious for one second" instead of refuting the arguments. This is why it's hard to take racial realists seriously, they tend to ignore external factors for IQ and automatically assume that genetics solely determines IQ.
 
It’s quite apparent and obvious that blacks are less intelligent than whites, rices, spics, and curries. Blacks commit such a disproportionate amount of crime and are way less in white collar jobs
You are downplaying the importance of socioeconomic factors. IQ doesn't boil down to genetics.
 
Blacks have achieved nothing in the fields of architecture, art, literature, science etc.
Blacks have achieved nothing in the fields of architecture, art, literature, science etc.

Black culture (art, music, fashion) in general is ugly, loud, primitive, undignified and graceless. See: rap, hip hop and twerking.
How can you expect blacks to progress when have always been trapped in sub saharan Africa which is a region that doesn't have the right conditions to develop advanced civilizations? When they brought to the USA, they were forced into poor neighborhoods and still are today. If you are born poor, you will die poor. This is true for all races. Most Blacks in America are still feeling the effects of racist policies and laws that existed back decades ago. If you were born into a poor neighborhood with no good education, lack of healthcare, etc, it's highly unlikely that you will escape this situation.
 
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Me coming online just to see @Logic55, a Jewish Mongolian, defending black honor for the 88th time.
 
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Me coming online just to see @Logic55, a Jewish Mongolian, defending black honor for the 88th time.
im not asian. im a hispanic. Tbh, if blacks were proven to be low iq due to genetics, i would come out and say it. So far, there isnt strong evidence that inherent intelligence greatly varies by race.
 
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We need a test for the nigger problem. Put 100 aryan niggers with the worst environment, and put 100 subhuman niggers in a perfect living environment. Then the niggerist question will be finally answered.
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actually there might be a reason for why a some blacks are genetically less intelligent, it could be because of the selective breeding during the period they were enslaved. They were just selected to be the biggest and strongest so they can be better slaves, so that might have something to do with it.
The practice of breeding strong male slaves with strong female slaves was not common. Fyi, high testosterone levels don't equate to lower intelligence. If someone has extremely high levels of testosterone, then it will have an affect on IQ but those are rare exceptions that are seen in all races.
 
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As a race realist I sure get tired of it all.
 
actually there might be a reason for why a some blacks are genetically less intelligent, it could be because of the selective breeding during the period they were enslaved. They were just selected to be the biggest and strongest so they can be better slaves, so that might have something to do with it.
most slaves reproduced, there wasnt a slave eugenics program lmao :feelskek:
 
most slaves reproduced, there wasnt a slave eugenics program lmao :feelskek:
Even if there was a slave eugenics program, intelligence wouldn't be affected because having bigger muscles does not equate to lower intelligence lmfao
 
Even if there was a slave eugenics program, intelligence wouldn't be affected because having bigger muscles does not equate to lower intelligence lmfao
true
also the average nig isnt stronger than an average whyte, it's just that they have guns and roam in gangs, commit crimes and kill each other
 
true
also the average nig isnt stronger than an average whyte, it's just that they have guns and roam in gangs, commit crimes and kill each other
Another bad argument made by race realists is that having more testosterone will make you violent. This is only true if the individual suffers from a health condition like polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) . The health conditions that cause extremely high levels of testosterone are rare tho.
 
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Even if there was a slave eugenics program, intelligence wouldn't be affected because having bigger muscles does not equate to lower intelligence lmfao
no. but hypothetically selecting for only one specific trait (ie strength) over and over again could remove evolutionary pressure from other traits (like intelligence)

in the wild, you see this all the time. strength vs intellect. stronger animals don't need to be intelligent to survive but weaker animals need to be more intelligent in order to compete with the stronger animals.

correlation does not imply causation. strength and intelligence could be inversely correlated but that doesn't mean strength causes low intelligence.
 
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@DarkStar @anandkonda @Chudpreet

Here we go again.
 
He picks up a tree branch and attached a sharp rock to it. It is now a spear. The environment caused the caveman to use his creativity to make the spear. The caveman then makes a bow and arrow, a shovel, a hut, and so on. Does this reflect his genetics?
In this environment the humans that were able to make better spears have higher chance of survival. Hence higher IQ men will be selected BECAUSE of the environment
 
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In this environment the humans that were able to make better spears have higher chance of survival. Hence higher IQ men will be selected BECAUSE of the environment
This happens in all continents.
 
Exactly. Environment selects
It doesn't mean that genes for Intelligence were prioritized more in Europe than in Africa. Surviving in any continent requires intelligence.
 
It doesn't mean that genes for Intelligence were prioritized more in Europe than in Africa.
Clearly would if circumstances in Europe required higher IQ and selected for it than in Africa
 
Clearly would if circumstances in Europe required higher IQ and selected for it than in Africa
Both Africa and Europe had difficult conditions for their inhabitants. Europeans had natural resources and contact with other advanced civilizations which is why they progressed much faster. These external factors gave them an advantage, not their genetics.
 
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some free kekfuel @DarkStar
I know what darkstar will do. He will disregard the environmental factors that significantly influence IQ and cite opinions that doubt the available science we have which are based on speculation. Maybe he will show SAT or IQ scores that don't take external factors into account.
 
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do you really need a study to prove blacks on average are significantly less intelligent than whites?
 
Oh no, the science deniers are coming :feelskek:
I gave you legit sources you didn't even read, but sure, feel free to live in your ideologically-driven delusion.
 
I gave you legit sources you didn't even read, but sure, feel free to live in your ideologically-driven delusion.
Show me the link, I want to skim through it again
 
do you really need a study to prove blacks on average are significantly less intelligent than whites?
Modern IQ scores don't accurately reflect inherent intelligence because environmental factors vary by each person.
 
You are so salty. Clam down, you are acting like a foid
Never was salty and your stupidity is not what would make one salty anyhow. Your name-calling is going to change that.

And I am calm. Don't try that transparent and predictable bullshit tactic here.
 
Never was salty and your stupidity is not what would make one salty anyhow. Your name-calling is going to change that.

And I am calm. Don't try that transparent and predictable bullshit tactic here.
I can't find the link.
 
Both Africa and Europe had difficult conditions for their inhabitants. Europeans had natural resources and contact with other advanced civilizations which is why they progressed much faster. These external factors gave them an advantage, not their genetics.
That selected for their IQ as well
 
That selected for their IQ as well
It still doesn't prove anything about race and IQ. If both groups of people were surviving, then gens for intelligence were passed on. This is a universal trait
 
"How do I computer?"
I want to see the specific link you gave me awhile ago but you won't give it to me now. Nvm.
Anyways, genetics and environmental factors are both important for IQ. So far, one doesn't overpower the other.
 
It still doesn't prove anything about race and IQ. If both groups of people were surviving, then gens for intelligence were passed on. This is a universal trait
Europe environment selected for IQ, just like how it selected for white skin
 

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